Shroppie Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 FDB gone. Roy Hodgson incoming. New manager syndrome. We'll lose. Not sure I can cope with losing to Hodgson. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Bit extreme after 4 games, especially when the replacement is Roy Hodgson. No doubt the majority on here will be calling for Les to do the same at 2.30pm on Saturday when Palace register their first points of the season against us. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 If Palace do not sack Frank de Boer before the next game, the next game will determine whether Frank de Boer will be sacked. Surely, Frank de Boer will throw everything to us in order to win the game. However, according to my memory, we have been good at such sitation and have been the immediate cause of sacking of some managers (please name a few). Hopefully, we can add this tally this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 If Palace do not sack Frank de Boer before the next game, the next game will determine whether Frank de Boer will be sacked. Surely, Frank de Boer will throw everything to us in order to win the game. However, according to my memory, we have been good at such sitation and have been the immediate cause of sacking of some managers (please name a few). Hopefully, we can add this tally this week. He has been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Bit extreme after 4 games, especially when the replacement is Roy Hodgson. No doubt the majority on here will be calling for Les to do the same at 2.30pm on Saturday when Palace register their first points of the season against us. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk What was extreme was appointing him in the first place. No sane chairman should have overlooked the total Milan disaster. FdB is obviously nothing more than an Eredivisie coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 That is absolutely insane. What chance does anyone have if you only get 4 games. You cannot tell if something is working or not working after 4 games, it's absolutely mental. I hope they nosedive to league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Fdb sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 McCarthy, Cedric, VVD, Hoedt, Bertrand Lemina, Romeu Long, Boufal, Redmond Gabbiadini Stephens in if VVD isn't fit, although he'll get battered by Benteke. Predicting 2-0 Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 De Boer sacked so they'll likely have the new manager bounce and beat us. It's inevitable, feels like it always happens to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 McCarthy, Cedric, VVD, Hoedt, Bertrand Lemina, Romeu Long, Boufal, Redmond Gabbiadini Stephens in if VVD isn't fit, although he'll get battered by Benteke. Predicting 2-0 Palace. The 4-2-3-1 system may have worked when we had Mane and Pellè, but it doesn't for the personnel we have now. Time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Hodgson has done pretty well in the Premier League (apart from Liverpool), kept Fulham up and did well at West Brom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Benteke is going to have a field day against Stephens or Yoshida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 De Boer sacked so they'll likely have the new manager bounce and beat us. It's inevitable, feels like it always happens to us! Does it? What were the last 3 games we have played as the first opposition for a new manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Does it? What were the last 3 games we have played as the first opposition for a new manager? Alf Ramsey. Matt Busby. Herbert Chapman? Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Benteke is going to have a field day against Stephens or Yoshida. Perhaps Hoedt might play or even VVD... Try waiting to see who`s picked before snivelling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 That is absolutely insane. What chance does anyone have if you only get 4 games. You cannot tell if something is working or not working after 4 games, it's absolutely mental. I hope they nosedive to league 1. Depends if you are on the inside with more information at hand. What was insane was employing him in the first place especially with the squad of Big Sam style players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Benteke is going to have a field day against Stephens or Yoshida. What like he did against the other center backs in his last 4 premiership games...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Does it? What were the last 3 games we have played as the first opposition for a new manager? With the rate of sackings I feel like every team gets it now and again, then thinks it's always them. We have had a couple in the last few years but can't remember who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 We have better suited players for the Diamond formation this season. Lemina seems wasted as a holding player/Davis and JWP aren't good enough for a holding player and a waste of time playing them as part of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1. Long and Gabbiadini can both split much better than what Redmond and Austin could when we tried it last season. JWP and PEH can both easily slot in for Davis with little fuss. As can Boufal for Tadic. It also allows us to switch to a 4-3-3 in the second half if necessary by bringing on Redmond for Long and having him and Tadic wide. This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Is Zaha back for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 You cannot tell if something is working or not working after 4 games, it's absolutely mental. . Glasgow can tell after a less than a week whether a new burger flipper is good enough. He's always pleased when they aren't, that leaves the position open again and he can dream of promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Is Zaha back for them? Don't think so. Has a knee injury with an unspecified return date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 (edited) That is absolutely insane. What chance does anyone have if you only get 4 games. You cannot tell if something is working or not working after 4 games, it's absolutely mental. Try telling that to some of the geniuses on this forum. They can tell for sure whether a new manager is going to succeed or not after a handful of games... Edited 11 September, 2017 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 (edited) Even less reasons for Long to play now. Previously CP were playing a fairly high line under FDB so there might have been space in behind to exploit but I fully expect with Hodgson they'll go defensive and counter attack, even at home I reckon, with a more direct style. So they'll probably sit much deeper and we'll have to break them down on as if we are the home side. Can quite easily see a 1-0 to them with a Benteke goal on the break or a set piece. You want Austin in the box. For what? All the chances we're creating?! People talk about Austin like he's this amazing goalscorer even if he is a poor footballer. But he has been on the pitch and been just as ****e this season. We invested in a striker and he's making all the right runs. Personally think it's largely irrelevant who is up front until we get at least one of our attacking midfielders on form. Yeh I want him in the box providing another threat with Gabiadini so they have more people to mark and we more forward options for the midfield to actually pass to, plus someone that is actually able to hold up the ball a bit, you only have to look at the problems two up top caused Liverpool for Man City. Gabbiadini can run all day but if there are 4 defenders covering him and no other Saints player within 20 yards of him it's going to cause problems. And been on the pitch? He's played 50 minutes of football in 4 league games FFS, which is 7 minutes less than the useless Long people are so desperate to give an undeserved chance to, jeez people talk some rubbish. Edited 11 September, 2017 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Try telling that to some of the geniuses on this forum. They can tell for sure whether a new manager is going to succeed or not after a handful of games... Feck we'd be 4-0-0 right now and in the next round of the cup if only the club listened to them and got in Silva. #itsthatsimple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 A difficult one to predict. Whichever team Manager changes the elements of play that are not working will win, so I suspect that will be Palace as they've made the decision to change the manager although the new appointment could be another mismatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Palace 0 Saints 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Does it? What were the last 3 games we have played as the first opposition for a new manager? Tim Sherwood for one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 U23 spanked four nil as well tonight, something isn't right all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Tim Sherwood for one? Mazzarri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 The 4-2-3-1 system may have worked when we had Mane and Pellè, but it doesn't for the personnel we have now. Time for a change. Agreed. Create some competition for places, ruffle a few feathers. Would 3-5-2 work for us? Stephens, VvD, Hoedt Cedric, Lemina, Romeu, Hojbjerg (Davis?), Bertrand Gabbiadini, Austin Romeu holding the middle DM, Lemina & Hoj (Davis?) more attacking, supporting front 2. Bertrand & Cedric marauding wide. Main problem: can any of this lot shoot? On target? Is it too defensive? Too one-dimensional? Gotta try something, ffs! If no VvD, then Yoshi instead & Hoedt in CB. I left out a whole load (Tadic, Boufal, JWP, Redmond) because I don't think they've stepped up to the mark this season. Make them earn their places back. Long isn't a starter imo (Or if he does, take Hoj out & use Long to sit in behind front 2, running from deep). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 U23 spanked four nil as well tonight, something isn't right all round. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Well after Palace sacked De Boer today, you can guarantee we'll get beat on saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Mazzarri. Weren't we right at the start of Klopps reign? Maybe not first but first few i thought? I might be recalling incorrectly just rings a bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 September, 2017 Share Posted 11 September, 2017 Weren't we right at the start of Klopps reign? Maybe not first but first few i thought? I might be recalling incorrectly just rings a bell. First league game yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 U23 spanked four nil as well tonight, something isn't right all round. The duopoly of Les Reed/Martin Hunter is the common denominator .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Benteke always scores against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Has anyone seen a video on our finishing practice for this week? I'm getting worried we won't do as well as last week if we don't practice again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 0-0 written all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 0-0 written all over it Against Benteke?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Benteke always scores against us Yes, you can bet your house on it that he'll get at least one on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 (edited) I think Van Dijk and Hoedt (if they play) are capable of keeping Benteke from scoring. After Saturday I'm more worried about our speed to the second ball, which is even more important to Palace than it was Watford. Ward-Prowse didn't work in the hole but his defensive workrate would be useful. Assume Lemina will be back too, which is just as well. Edited 12 September, 2017 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Yes, you can bet your house on it that he'll get at least one on Saturday. You bet yours and let us all know how you get on [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Talk****e say Woy has been announced as the new palace manager let's hope he gets them playing like England at the euros... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 2/1 to beat us Saturday ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Yeah I've bet on them. Seems too obvious really. VVD blatantly won't be back and we'll bring Tadic and JWP back in or something. I just want to see Long/Gabbiadini/Boufal up front now, whether it's Boufal behind a front 2 or him and Long wide. 3 mobile forwards with a bit of pace. Tried everything else and it doesn't work. Solid team behind them and let these 3 unsettle their defence please. I still like Long despite his rubbish goal record. So long as he's not the main striker I think he's useful. Just about every defender who he comes up against (or has)says he is horrible to play against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Talk****e say Woy has been announced as the new palace manager let's hope he gets them playing like England at the euros... Iceland scored 2 goals against England. Are we that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 We have better suited players for the Diamond formation this season. Lemina seems wasted as a holding player/Davis and JWP aren't good enough for a holding player and a waste of time playing them as part of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1. Long and Gabbiadini can both split much better than what Redmond and Austin could when we tried it last season. JWP and PEH can both easily slot in for Davis with little fuss. As can Boufal for Tadic. It also allows us to switch to a 4-3-3 in the second half if necessary by bringing on Redmond for Long and having him and Tadic wide. Very sensible post. Makes a lot more sense than going for 3 at the back. Our back four are not the problem and if the midfeild functions Cedric and Bertrand can get forward enough in a back four. Stick Tadic on the left of the diamond where he belongs, and can link up with Bertrand or actually put in a good cross. Romeu at the base, and JWP on the right. Lemina can do the box to box stuuf and support the two strikers. My pick would be Gabbi and Long too, but Charlie could partner Gabbi if they play really deep and there no space behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 September, 2017 Author Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Just about every defender who he comes up against (or has)says he is horrible to play against As do the exhausted ball boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 12 September, 2017 Share Posted 12 September, 2017 Where is Josh Sims? we could do with him right now is he injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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