Give it to Ron Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 TBH I prefer my pussy without claws... Wot no blood.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 Yep, although the key thing I read into Pellegino's answer is what he didn't say rather than what he did say. He could have easily responded "Virgil won't be ready for the game this weekend" to the journo's question but he chose to be vague instead. Of course, he may have no intention whatsoever of considering VvD for selection, and is simply wanting to sow seeds of doubt in Watford's minds, but the fact he avoided ruling it out suggests to me that VvD is in contention for the squad on Saturday. I'd go along with that, it certainly doesn't hurt to keep the opposition guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 TBH I prefer my pussy without claws... Bit surprised that you would say something as childish as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 Wot no blood.... I am not surprised that you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 I'll be clapping at 2/3rds of my usual clapping speed, only only smiling with half my face, all the better to show my grudging approval lol #That'llLearn'Em To be fair Guan, it sounds like you've had a stroke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 Bit surprised that you would say something as childish as this. Aha; the self-appointed "childishness police" have struck. You'd better take out full membership if you want to take this role seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 Bit surprised that you would say something as childish as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 I want to see 100% from VVD. great defending, towering headers then I'll support him 100%. If he falls short and doesn't give his all he'll get it point blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 I am not surprised that you didThe biggest shame in recent years was you not carrying out your threat to **** off to the Emirates save boring the **** out of this forum. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 I want to see 100% from VVD. great defending, towering headers then I'll support him 100%. If he falls short and doesn't give his all he'll get it point blank. He will do nothing else but give it 100%. If clubs see him playing badly they may feel it's because of his injury and then effect whether they are still interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 I was thinking the title could now be changed to Van Dijk can solve a problem...along with Hoedt we might actually look threatening from an attacking corner at the moment we look like a pussy with no claws. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/11/10/short-corners-may-be-widely-despised-but-they-are-helping-teams/ https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/mar/27/in-defence-of-the-corner-a-much-maligned-set-piece With approximately a 3% chance of scoring from any corner across the entire division, I'm not particularly bothered whether we look like scoring from them or not tbh. The only thing strange about our corner tactics is that we cross the ball all the time in open play when two of our best headers are at the other end of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 September, 2017 Share Posted 7 September, 2017 Its also set pieces too thinking back to Spurs at home last season . With VD and Hoedt we now have an aerial threat. Will help Austin and Gabbi more distractions for defenders. TBF Yosh has a good go. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 I see Wenger saying the Ox may of been tapped up, oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 I see Wenger saying the Ox may of been tapped up, oh dear Surely not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41193378 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 Liverpool never tap up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 Liverpool never tap upSaints never do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 Saints never do either. Ahh this one again....Liverpool's manager met face to face with a player under contract to another club without permission...if you have evidence of saints doing the same feel free to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 Saints never do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 September, 2017 Share Posted 8 September, 2017 Ahh this one again....Liverpool's manager met face to face with a player under contract to another club without permission...if you have evidence of saints doing the same feel free to share. And maybe at the same time, he can find a club that is right royally ****ed off with us for signing (or trying to) one of their players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/dec/21/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-sanchez-van-dijk-targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/dec/21/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-sanchez-van-dijk-targets And given Conte's comments the other day: Bidding. War. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/dec/21/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-sanchez-van-dijk-targets City will probably not be going for VVD in January, if you believe the article, but see him as a summer target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 VvD's people, so I'll assume agent, met this week with representatives of City and Chelsea, with the permission of Saints. One of the 1st questions they asked City was would VvD get enough games in to qualify for a PL winners medal. I maybe able to find out more on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 VvD's people, so I'll assume agent, met this week with representatives of City and Chelsea, with the permission of Saints. One of the 1st questions they asked City was would VvD get enough games in to qualify for a PL winners medal. I maybe able to find out more on Saturday. That’s interesting, thanks. The lack of a definitive “he’s not going” statement in the lead up to the Jan transfer window, together with Pellegrino’s “it’s up to the board, not me” type comments in the media, make me think that something could be happening. Perhaps the club is looking to fund some attacking options this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Time to get rid for £60m to City. Hopefully we've all learnt some lessons from the debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 VvD's people, so I'll assume agent, met this week with representatives of City and Chelsea, with the permission of Saints. One of the 1st questions they asked City was would VvD get enough games in to qualify for a PL winners medal. I maybe able to find out more on Saturday. Good - should have gone in the Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Good - should have gone in the Summer. But no-one bid for him in the summer...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Hence why he didn’t play v Chelsea as some of us said/guessed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 If we do sell him, make sure it's AFTER we've done our own business. If other clubs know we've got loads of money to burn they will rip us off. That's assuming we are going to be in the market. We sold Fonte and then dithered around and had to bring in Caceres on a free, so who knows what Les will be up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 If we do sell him, make sure it's AFTER we've done our own business. If other clubs know we've got loads of money to burn they will rip us off. That's assuming we are going to be in the market. We sold Fonte and then dithered around and had to bring in Caceres on a free, so who knows what Les will be up to. Exactly this. Also wonder if could generate some kind of swap/loan-with-an-option arrangement. Would make sense given our need to strengthen/refresh in other positions. Sure there must be a couple of suitable, young-hungry types at Chelsea and City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 If we do sell him, make sure it's AFTER we've done our own business. If other clubs know we've got loads of money to burn they will rip us off. I hope this happens (the doing our business first bit, not the ripping off bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 But no-one bid for him in the summer...? Probably because we told everyone to do one. They would have bid if we'd encouraged it. The sooner he goes the better - he's been phoning it in since he's been back playing, which must translate to other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Funny if we sell him to a club which isn't Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 The VVD to City story is winding its way around the often more credible parts of the media... http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-city-transfer-new-van-dijk-sanchez-pep-guardiola-january-shortlist-target-a8122476.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/12/21/man-city-map-transfer-plans-next-18-months-withalexis-sanchez/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Best outcome for all parties. We had to take a stand against those ****s from Merseyside, even if it had a negative short term effect (FWIW, I don't think he's been anywhere near as bad as some have made out and on the whole has been relatively professional) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 If we do sell him, make sure it's AFTER we've done our own business. If other clubs know we've got loads of money to burn they will rip us off. That's assuming we are going to be in the market. We sold Fonte and then dithered around and had to bring in Caceres on a free, so who knows what Les will be up to. Les should do the former but the disasterous Jan window last time suggests the latter. Agree Suhari, City or Chelsea must have a few fringe players that have the pace, strength or other attributes we are seeking that we could loan/perm as we did with Bertrand? Little risk for players if we go down as they won't be tied to joining but short-term the team needs a major injection of pace and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 We’ve already brought his replacement. Let’s see who we bring in for the more advanced positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 This whole episode is nearly enough to make me give up on football, at least at Premier level. Saints have done just about everything possible to keep a player to his contract, but Van Dijk has proved that any selfish player wanting to move on at any cost, including inflicting the maximum damage on the club currently paying him, can do so with impunity I hoped that we had made a stand, but ultimately it's failed, damaged the club and team morale. Agents and the media will be rubbing their hands that dirty business as usual can be resumed. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Look how professional Coutinho has been then look at this sad c-unt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Look how professional Coutinho has been then look at this sad c-unt.Absolutely. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Look how professional Coutinho has been then look at this sad c-unt. Mahrez is another example. Handed in a transfer request early in the last window but kept his head down and played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Mahrez is another example. Handed in a transfer request early in the last window but kept his head down and played.Do Mahrez and Coutinho have a different agent to Van Dijk? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 van dijk has previous for acting like a complete d1ckhead though, so shouldn't be a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Many players in our current squad are so unlikeable as people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Do Mahrez and Coutinho have a different agent to Van Dijk? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Believe so but it shouldn’t matter - VVD is astonishlngly unprofessional and the whole saga has certainly affected the club very badly. Can only hope by his leaving that we can get some of the other rotten apples out as well and an influx of several new first team players with the strength, pace and backbone we need lifts morale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 The person at fault for VVD is Reed. Ultimately he’s the one in charge of contracts and whether players leave or not and he has not been able to convince players like VVD, and Bertrand etc. that they still have a career here with a team doing good things whilst looking for a truly top team to move to. The ‘strategy’ of Reed et. al. has fundamentally not worked and they need to rethink ASAP or we are going to continue on a downward spiral and not towards the European competition that Chairman Gao has been sold. They can sack the manager but it will not stop the problems that come with having a football board that is set up to be average. Unless of course that is the real aim. Problem is, when you aim for average you can miss and go to the lower level. That is Saints right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Do Mahrez and Coutinho have a different agent to Van Dijk? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Yes it’s Kamel Bengougam and Kia Joorabchian respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 (edited) Keeping him was pointless and was never going to achieve anything positive. We should have sold him in the summer, and having made the wrong choice we need to negotiate the best deal, preferably involving players coming out way, to give us a chance of staying up. Edited 26 December, 2017 by egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Yes it’s Kamel Bengougam and Kia Joorabchian respectively.Thanks. Helps explain. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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