SO16_Saint Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Ok, so now it's been confirmed that VVD is staying, what and how does the Club do? Isolate him? Integrate him? What do we think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Ok, so now it's been confirmed that VVD is staying, what and how does the Club do? Isolate him? Integrate him? What do we think? Don't jump to quickly. "All deals that we are doing have been concluded" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Same as Scneiderlin and Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 If he wants to get back in to the national team... if he wants a big money move in 12 months' time... if he wants to look back on his career and not see a great big gaping 12-18 month hole in it and think "if only"... then he'll get his head straight and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Reintegrate, play him, a few of his standard performances and all will be forgotten, hopefully with a goal or two thrown in to apologise for his behaviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Try to integrate him. The primary reason for keeping him was to play for us. But a discussion has to take place to make sure he understands that nothing changes in the next window, or two, or more, unless he shows commitment in return for an agreement to listen to acceptable offers at some point. And he needs to get his head round the fact that he would damage his own reputation far more than he would damage Saints by refusing to play, or playing half-heartedly. If he can't do that, regrettably he will will have to continue to be isolated. And, as an aside, I can't see that our position with LFC changes when we move into a new window. They've withdrawn interest. It'll be interesting to see how they can reopen interest without our initiative. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Hopefully he will be back to playing quickly and stop being a moody pr!ck. Better in the team that out of it. I'm sure his team mates will accept him back in no time. Doubt we fans will ever be as forgiving but if we get £100m from Barca or PSG next year all will be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Reintegrate him, but give him assurances that he'll be sold (for an acceptable fee and not to the bin dippers) next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 I'd try and reintegrate him right away. He gets on OK with Pellegrino, according to Pellegrino. He has no reason to act like a jackass now, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Reintegrate him, but give him assurances that he'll be sold (for an acceptable fee and not to the bin dippers) next summer. Pretty much this and hopefully he goes on to have his best season for us like Morgan did (imo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Hopefully he'll put some serious effort into the rest of the season, rather than slacking during games like Mane did. Despite what's happened, the next few weeks will determine what sort of character he is in my eyes. The amount of time off he's had at the club's expense, he owes us. If he performs I'm happy to get behind him, after a game or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Its really up to him no in my opinion. He started this and now he needs to come to terms with staying. If he comes back and engages then take him back with open arms. If he stays away sulking then let him sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 I expect him to be at least on the bench, if not in the team for Watford. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 I'd hazard a guess we plan on reintegrating him into the first team - he's a huge asset that we cannot really have sitting around on his arse dragging a salary out of the club. That said, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we never see him in a Saints shirt again. He's been tapped up, had his head turned and has been so vocal about leaving that I really think he'll sulk his way to next summer. Where, again, the club doesn't have to sell him. Loan him out to Exeter when the loan window opens for lower league clubs. For Saints, the best course of action would be to try and get a good season out of him, perhaps by "guaranteeing" him a transfer next summer. (Pending a transfer offer that meets our expectations. Which by then could be around the £90 million mark! ) Of course Liverpool fans won't be done with this saga - they'll now be mouthing off about getting him on the cheap in January (forgetting he'll still have a 4 and a half year contract) or some such craziness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 I reckon just play him. Start training Monday, decent snippets in the press about how is is getting back into 'working hard' and 'seeing what happens in the future' with pics of him smiling and messing around on the training pitch what did someone mention earlier....the club have an aim to have him in the side for the Palace game? couple of weeks...no problem. Couple of behind doors friendlies/U23 games??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Let him wear a Liverpool shirt under his Saints one and make sure us fans song 'Never walk alone' for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 How many months is it that he hasn't played any football now? At least 6? I'd love to know the truth about the nature of that Vardy inflicted injury and since when he has been fit. His only option is to return to the team. he can't sulk the season away on strike in the reserves, as that would be 1 1/2 years not playing any proper football, which is curtains for his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 I expect him to be at least on the bench, if not in the team for Watford. Yep, he needs to hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Train him with the first team from tomorrow morning, Start him in the next reserve/youth game and as soon as fit play him in the first team. If he refuses to play or train fine him until he changes his mind if his attitude or performance stinks follow the clubs ususl disciplinary procedures. He will play and play well then move on in the summer hopefully not to liverhampton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Reintegrate him. Footballer looking after himself and a bit of a **** shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Probably get a good loan fee for him........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Probably get a good loan fee for him........... Not quite sure any EPL clubs could afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 It's a big issue. If we give him a squad place at the expense of another cb we've got to be convinced he'll knuckle down and play to his potential. If we're not convinced, for me it's a case of no squad number, sit in the stands and evaluate things in Jan. I remain to be convinced that his staying is a good thing but let's see how things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Let him train, let him get on with it, no apology needed, just get on with the f**king job in hand and let him work his way back in the team. If he shows application in training, then he may displace one of the current centre backs. But above all, if he plays, we need to get over it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Psychotherapy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Not quite sure any EPL clubs could afford him. Since when has spending money his club don't have ever stopped old 'Arry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Well he won’t have to play for his World Cup place. They won’t qualify at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 Don't really want to see him in the shirt again after his carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 The boo boys are going to absolutely love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 It's just going to rumble on all the way through to the January circus when he'll probably pull the same crap to try and escape. Hope I'm wrong, but I think this suffocating cloud of negativity surrounding Van Dijk will hang over the club all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 31 August, 2017 Share Posted 31 August, 2017 (edited) Now that Holland almost definitely won't qualify he has even less incentive to play. Should be interesting. Edited 1 September, 2017 by farawaysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Integrate him. Give him an incentive to play well, eg. internationals, possible big-money move next summer (eg. to Barca direct, not via the Northern Saints branch office). In other words, treat him like all the other professionals and expect him to behave like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 How about a pre match flogging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I plan to just ignore him. Don't sing his name don't boo but support the team as usual. Not that we will see him for a while. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Clearly, we must try and get him to play to the best of his ability and sell him in January. Only if he helps us reach a comfortable place in the league and 40 points at least achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Integrate him. Let him take the mic before the next home game to do a few platitudes for the crowd so they're not on his back. Then play, lead the defence and score a goal. All forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Integrate him. The fans should get behind him to show him how much he means to them and the club. No point in turning on him and giving him a load of **** - Save that for when he does finally leave. For now he's still at the club and is an important part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I think him playing for us is the obvious plan. The question for me is that of captaincy. Taking it away could be worse in him being grumpy the whole time with us but do we really need a wantaway captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Ok, so now it's been confirmed that VVD is staying, what and how does the Club do? Isolate him? Integrate him? What do we think? He'll be sold in January. I doubt we'll see much of him before them. The fans hate him now so there will be few complaints when he's sold, although this long drawn out saga has probably driven his transfer value down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I think him playing for us is the obvious plan. The question for me is that of captaincy. Taking it away could be worse in him being grumpy the whole time with us but do we really need a wantaway captain?He can't be captain. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 He can't be captain. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk You would think that but has there been a stripping of the captaincy and replacement? If it was going to happen surely it wouldve by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 You would think that but has there been a stripping of the captaincy and replacement? If it was going to happen surely it wouldve by now? Will need to change his contract, is he going to accept a revised contract? Suspect he will still be team captain when he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Not quite sure any EPL clubs could afford him. Liverpool are an EPL club (Full MLG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Make him beg. Then say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Any update from Tom28 on how Virgil has reacted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I would imagine Reed and Kreuger will be talking with him, seeing where his head is at. That will determine whether we 'share or shaft' (to quote Kilroy-Silk). We all hope he clears his head and sees the benefit of playing to his potential. It will likely need the Club to agree an exit plan based on performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Make him beg. Then say no. Sort of thing you'd do with an ex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Liverpool are an EPL club (Full MLG) Doh, I meant EFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Any update from Tom28 on how Virgil has reacted? Let's not tempt him back out of the woodwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Chain him to the Bargate for a day, let the public do what they will ;-) Seriously though there's sod all 'the club' can do other than act professionally and provide whatever support its players need / make the best decisions for the club as a whole, so it's totally down to him. He's an adult and can and will make his own decisions, I just hope he's learnt from those he made this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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