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  SO16_Saint said:
Ok, so now it's been confirmed that VVD is staying, what and how does the Club do?

 

Isolate him?

Integrate him?

 

What do we think?

 

Don't jump to quickly.

 

"All deals that we are doing have been concluded"

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If he wants to get back in to the national team... if he wants a big money move in 12 months' time... if he wants to look back on his career and not see a great big gaping 12-18 month hole in it and think "if only"... then he'll get his head straight and play.

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Try to integrate him. The primary reason for keeping him was to play for us. But a discussion has to take place to make sure he understands that nothing changes in the next window, or two, or more, unless he shows commitment in return for an agreement to listen to acceptable offers at some point.

 

And he needs to get his head round the fact that he would damage his own reputation far more than he would damage Saints by refusing to play, or playing half-heartedly.

 

If he can't do that, regrettably he will will have to continue to be isolated.

 

And, as an aside, I can't see that our position with LFC changes when we move into a new window. They've withdrawn interest. It'll be interesting to see how they can reopen interest without our initiative.

 

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Hopefully he will be back to playing quickly and stop being a moody pr!ck. Better in the team that out of it. I'm sure his team mates will accept him back in no time. Doubt we fans will ever be as forgiving but if we get £100m from Barca or PSG next year all will be fine!

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  Pamplemousse said:
Reintegrate him, but give him assurances that he'll be sold (for an acceptable fee and not to the bin dippers) next summer.

 

Pretty much this and hopefully he goes on to have his best season for us like Morgan did (imo).

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Hopefully he'll put some serious effort into the rest of the season, rather than slacking during games like Mane did. Despite what's happened, the next few weeks will determine what sort of character he is in my eyes. The amount of time off he's had at the club's expense, he owes us. If he performs I'm happy to get behind him, after a game or two.

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Its really up to him no in my opinion. He started this and now he needs to come to terms with staying. If he comes back and engages then take him back with open arms. If he stays away sulking then let him sit.

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I'd hazard a guess we plan on reintegrating him into the first team - he's a huge asset that we cannot really have sitting around on his arse dragging a salary out of the club. That said, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we never see him in a Saints shirt again. He's been tapped up, had his head turned and has been so vocal about leaving that I really think he'll sulk his way to next summer. Where, again, the club doesn't have to sell him. Loan him out to Exeter when the loan window opens for lower league clubs.

 

For Saints, the best course of action would be to try and get a good season out of him, perhaps by "guaranteeing" him a transfer next summer. (Pending a transfer offer that meets our expectations. Which by then could be around the £90 million mark! :))

 

Of course Liverpool fans won't be done with this saga - they'll now be mouthing off about getting him on the cheap in January (forgetting he'll still have a 4 and a half year contract) or some such craziness...

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I reckon just play him.

Start training Monday, decent snippets in the press about how is is getting back into 'working hard' and 'seeing what happens in the future'

with pics of him smiling and messing around on the training pitch

 

what did someone mention earlier....the club have an aim to have him in the side for the Palace game?

couple of weeks...no problem. Couple of behind doors friendlies/U23 games???

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How many months is it that he hasn't played any football now? At least 6? I'd love to know the truth about the nature of that Vardy inflicted injury and since when he has been fit. His only option is to return to the team. he can't sulk the season away on strike in the reserves, as that would be 1 1/2 years not playing any proper football, which is curtains for his career.

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Train him with the first team from tomorrow morning, Start him in the next reserve/youth game and as soon as fit play him in the first team. If he refuses to play or train fine him until he changes his mind if his attitude or performance stinks follow the clubs ususl disciplinary procedures.

 

He will play and play well then move on in the summer hopefully not to liverhampton!

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It's a big issue. If we give him a squad place at the expense of another cb we've got to be convinced he'll knuckle down and play to his potential. If we're not convinced, for me it's a case of no squad number, sit in the stands and evaluate things in Jan. I remain to be convinced that his staying is a good thing but let's see how things go.

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Let him train, let him get on with it, no apology needed, just get on with the f**king job in hand and let him work his way back in the team. If he shows application in training, then he may displace one of the current centre backs. But above all, if he plays, we need to get over it as well.

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  S-Clarke said:
Not quite sure any EPL clubs could afford him.

 

Since when has spending money his club don't have ever stopped old 'Arry? :)

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It's just going to rumble on all the way through to the January circus when he'll probably pull the same crap to try and escape.

 

Hope I'm wrong, but I think this suffocating cloud of negativity surrounding Van Dijk will hang over the club all season.

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Integrate him.

Give him an incentive to play well, eg. internationals, possible big-money move next summer (eg. to Barca direct, not via the Northern Saints branch office).

 

In other words, treat him like all the other professionals and expect him to behave like one.

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Clearly, we must try and get him to play to the best of his ability and sell him in January. Only if he helps us reach a comfortable place in the league and 40 points at least achievable.

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Integrate him. Let him take the mic before the next home game to do a few platitudes for the crowd so they're not on his back. Then play, lead the defence and score a goal. All forgotten.

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I think him playing for us is the obvious plan.

 

The question for me is that of captaincy. Taking it away could be worse in him being grumpy the whole time with us but do we really need a wantaway captain?

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  SO16_Saint said:
Ok, so now it's been confirmed that VVD is staying, what and how does the Club do?

 

Isolate him?

Integrate him?

 

What do we think?

 

He'll be sold in January. I doubt we'll see much of him before them. The fans hate him now so there will be few complaints when he's sold, although this long drawn out saga has probably driven his transfer value down.

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  Saint Troy said:
I think him playing for us is the obvious plan.

 

The question for me is that of captaincy. Taking it away could be worse in him being grumpy the whole time with us but do we really need a wantaway captain?

He can't be captain.

 

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  Shroppie said:
He can't be captain.

 

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You would think that but has there been a stripping of the captaincy and replacement? If it was going to happen surely it wouldve by now?

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  Saint Troy said:
You would think that but has there been a stripping of the captaincy and replacement? If it was going to happen surely it wouldve by now?

Will need to change his contract, is he going to accept a revised contract? Suspect he will still be team captain when he plays.

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I would imagine Reed and Kreuger will be talking with him, seeing where his head is at. That will determine whether we 'share or shaft' (to quote Kilroy-Silk).

We all hope he clears his head and sees the benefit of playing to his potential. It will likely need the Club to agree an exit plan based on performance.

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Chain him to the Bargate for a day, let the public do what they will ;-)

 

Seriously though there's sod all 'the club' can do other than act professionally and provide whatever support its players need / make the best decisions for the club as a whole, so it's totally down to him. He's an adult and can and will make his own decisions, I just hope he's learnt from those he made this summer.

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