Mr X Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Looked majorly majorly ****ed off today like he was going to burst into tears at any second, contributed nothing & his body language looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on the pitch something going on?............ or just that time of month;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 He seems right miserable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 He seems right miserable needs a reality check acting as if the world is going to cave in, whilst picking up £50k a week playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 I have thought the same when I have seen him at St Mary's. His shoulders are slouched and sometimes he just ambles along. Having said that, he is still by far our best left back. His skill and experience make the difference. It would be nice to see skill and commitment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 needs a reality check acting as if the world is going to cave in, whilst picking up £50k a week playing football. Agree. He's getting paid lots of money so should have no emotions. No idea if he has personal issues but either way, they shouldn't stop him from being happy and good at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Agree. He's getting paid lots of money so should have no emotions. No idea if he has personal issues but either way, they shouldn't stop him from being happy and good at football. or at least (for around 2 hours a week), not look like he is about to be sent down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 or at least (for around 2 hours a week), not look like he is about to be sent down It's a London thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 or at least (for around 2 hours a week), not look like he is about to be sent down If he's not happy then he's not happy. Could be personal, could be football related but don't see why he should pretend to be on top of the world to keep other people pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 He's had the look of "you lot are ****" on his face since after the the cup final. And who can blame him? We need some confidence and it will only come from a winning streak which I'm sure will happen but if it could hurry up that would be lovely. Normally takes a result against one of the top teams to do that so once we beat utd everything will be good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 If I had to play behind those three forwards I'd probably have decked all of them by now. I feel sorry for the seven decent players we have but the three behind the striker are demoralising. Bertrand knows that unless somebody else scores those three never look like scoring. Did Tadic come out in the second half? enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 (edited) How long before Pellegrino grabs Bertrand by the throat and puts him in a chokehold? Edited 26 August, 2017 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Let VVD go and watch the Bertrand sh!tstorm follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 I've always thought he looks p*ssed off but his performances lately have been lacklustre. Need to have a word with him, get him back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 I've been saying he wants to leave for a while, of course shot down by the usual lot. He's just more professional than VVD. Be interesting to see how he acts if an offer comes in though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 His body language was awful today. Everyone around us commented on it. His positional sense wasn't any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Lazy and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 I've been saying he wants to leave for a while, of course shot down by the usual lot. He's just more professional than VVD. Be interesting to see how he acts if an offer comes in though. Offers won't come in if he keeps playing like that and is left out of the England squad. Footballs are so ****ing thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 He has to play with Redmond in front of him. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Already gone, in his own head. Time to play 3 at the back and add polish to McQueen and Targett. Cedric may not be far behind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 He has to play with Redmond in front of him. Enough said. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow&blue Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Agreed Seconded, greedy...does not know how to cross the ball and shoots all the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 I've been saying he wants to leave for a while, of course shot down by the usual lot. You said it was because of Puel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 You said it was because of Puel. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkBy the throat he had 'im, by the throat I'm telling you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 You said it was because of Puel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Puel didn't help. Had we had a good season last year, maybe it would have been different. I'm almost certain that had Puel stayed, Bertrand would have left 100% So yes, it was because of Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessex saint Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 The lad has been in a sulk for a good few months. Looked completely apathetic from march onwards. I'd drop him and give McQueen a go for a couple of games. He might not be as good as Bertrand but he'll die trying. Come September and he's still here he also might realise he needs to try his ass off if he wants a move in Jan/ next summer. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 If I had to play behind those three forwards I'd probably have decked all of them by now. I feel sorry for the seven decent players we have but the three behind the striker are demoralising. Bertrand knows that unless somebody else scores those three never look like scoring. Did Tadic come out in the second half? enough said. He had his own good chance to score today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 So if the Three Midfield Musketeers (Fantastic Four if you count the usless Boufal) are ****ing off the rest of the team as well as the fans. what does that say about MoPe doing nothing to change matters ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC-TID! Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 I've been saying he wants to leave for a while, of course shot down by the usual lot. He's just more professional than VVD. Be interesting to see how he acts if an offer comes in though. I've told them all this too. Cedric and Tadic would like to move as well. Have a bad feeling that Virgil may not be here come Sept. 1st. I see Boufal is still getting stick, has the lad actually had a run of 4/5/6 games? Nope, bits and pieces and yet he's still expected to perform miracles. He was pony Wednesday but so were the rest of them. Redmond and Tadic were appealing today, yet somehow are automatic starters, go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Tadic wants to go? Would drive him there myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Tadic wants to go? Would drive him there myself. Trouble is, Dusan will keep asking you to stop at various service stations, even asking you to double back several times to them after you've passed them already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Puel didn't help. Had we had a good season last year, maybe it would have been different. I'm almost certain that had Puel stayed, Bertrand would have left 100% So yes, it was because of Puel. We did have a good season So he wanted to leave because of Puel but now Puels gone he.......wants to leave. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 We did have a good season So he wanted to leave because of Puel but now Puels gone he.......wants to leave. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Come on Duckhunter, I thought you were more intelligent than this. Firstly, what I said was that a number of players wanted out and that they didn't get on with Puel (this was true). Secondly, he's wanted to leave since about December last year, so his Agent would have been touting him about finding out what he can earn elsewhere and where he can go. He's been told that he can earn more, probably double (the amount is speculation on my behalf), and play CL football so yeah he......wants to leave. What's your point? Finally, as I've said, had Puel stayed, he and a number of others would have been much more vocal in their desire to leave (similar to VvD). As it happens, MP managed to convince them to stay, which of course doesn't mean they don't want to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 I've told them all this too. Cedric and Tadic would like to move as well. Have a bad feeling that Virgil may not be here come Sept. 1st. I see Boufal is still getting stick, has the lad actually had a run of 4/5/6 games? Nope, bits and pieces and yet he's still expected to perform miracles. He was pony Wednesday but so were the rest of them. Redmond and Tadic were appealing today, yet somehow are automatic starters, go figure. Who the hell wants to sign Tadic? He's been garbage since Koeman left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jeweller Posted 26 August, 2017 Share Posted 26 August, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 Come on Duckhunter, I thought you were more intelligent than this. Firstly, what I said was that a number of players wanted out and that they didn't get on with Puel (this was true). Secondly, he's wanted to leave since about December last year, so his Agent would have been touting him about finding out what he can earn elsewhere and where he can go. He's been told that he can earn more, probably double (the amount is speculation on my behalf), and play CL football so yeah he......wants to leave. What's your point? Finally, as I've said, had Puel stayed, he and a number of others would have been much more vocal in their desire to leave (similar to VvD). As it happens, MP managed to convince them to stay, which of course doesn't mean they don't want to leave. Perhaps Les Reed should have let the precious darlings leave & kept the honest and decent bloke. Because these players the manager had to "convince to stay" have been ****kng woeful so far. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 Maybe the clubs stance in the past was right, selling players that don't want to be here. Our best player is on strike and showing no signs of relenting. Our England international left back has been phoning it in since the end of last season. Tadic looks a busted flush. Would much rather give my support to players that actually want to be here and give their all, even if that is just for 2 years before they leave. You can see something clearly isn't right and the current attitude of some of our more 'senior' pros must be having an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 Didn't make it at Chelsea , poor at Villa then started to look good at Saints , got into the England squad but is now desparate to leave ! Is it the England bit that goes to our players heads ? Lallana a classic example that even the ref had a go at him. When we were doing well , plaudits from pundits etc we had a good team spirit , this seems to have gone out of the window . Redmond another that the club have got noticed by the England set up who now spends all his time moaning at other players and failing to do the business himself. Tadic another constant moaning non deliverer. Perhaps we need a better coaching set up to get the players back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 He's never been the happiest on the pitch. Therefore, I think some are reading too much into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 He's never been the happiest on the pitch. Therefore, I think some are reading too much into this.aye men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 He's never been the happiest on the pitch. Therefore, I think some are reading too much into this. Has he done any media at all? I'm using the "Post-Euro's" Fonte scenario as my barometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 Exceptbfrom Liverpool where he'd be an upgrade in their LB position, and who want VVD anyway, which other clubs want him/which other club would he be an improvement for??? No one has bid for him or nothing so what is the cause for such a strop. Makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 Didn't make it at Chelsea , poor at Villa then started to look good at Saints , got into the England squad but is now desparate to leave ! Is it the England bit that goes to our players heads ? Lallana a classic example that even the ref had a go at him. When we were doing well , plaudits from pundits etc we had a good team spirit , this seems to have gone out of the window . Redmond another that the club have got noticed by the England set up who now spends all his time moaning at other players and failing to do the business himself. Tadic another constant moaning non deliverer. Perhaps we need a better coaching set up to get the players back on track. Redmond was doing that long before he got picked for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 August, 2017 Share Posted 27 August, 2017 I would literally rather be bottom half with academy players and others who want to be here than 8th with a bunch of miserable ****s. Yeah, cos 2008/9 was such a brilliant season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 28 August, 2017 Share Posted 28 August, 2017 Absolutely disgusted that Ryan Betrand isn't smiling enough!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Certainly got no pleasure from his first England goal ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Certainly got no pleasure from his first England goal ! Looking at that, I don't think he's unhappy at Saints, I just think it's his general demeanour. Ryan Bertrand just don't like life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 He had just scored his first international goal and looked like someone had just trodden on his toe. Does he ever smile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 It's just how he rolls He's really ecstatically happy at Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Posh spice never smiles either... coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Looking at that' date=' I don't think he's unhappy at Saints, I just think it's his general demeanour. Ryan Bertrand just don't like life![/quote'] Life, it's not all jokes and games, blud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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