Wesley Hoedt

[skintsaint]

https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2021-06-17/announcement-wesley-hoedt-transfer-southampton-anderlecht?fbclid=IwAR05py7gyFT0hC72XlKdpKOW3oS_sOMX-np6NK9pEeLsSUzNaDaZOudlN_w

 

woohoo

[Saint Scott]

On the OS now too. No mention of a fee but some sizeable wages off the books at least.

[Brumsaint]

I punched the air when I saw this. Terrible signing who has cost us so much more than just the fee!

Hopefully, a few more leave early, too, as that's what we need most to be in a position to sign the fresh blood we so badly need.

[daldridge7]

If you read the dutch/french news outlets they are saying that this was pretty much free to help them afford the wages e.g.

https://www.lesoir.be/378842/article/2021-06-17/anderlecht-signe-un-nouveau-transfert-wesley-hoedt-va-remplacer-miazga-dans-la

 

[Wurzel]

"The club would like to thank Wesley for his service and wish him all the best for the future"
Said a club spokesman through gritted teeth with fingers crossed it doesn't fall through at last minute

[SuperSAINT]

  On 17/06/2021 at 12:41, Saint Scott said:

On the OS now too. No mention of a fee but some sizeable wages off the books at least.

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Wouldn’t surprise me if the fee is basically the cost of his wages.  

[SuperSAINT]

HampshireLive spinning the f*ck out of this story 😂

[Whitey Grandad]

He did well for us in that crucial game at Swansea. I have just looked up the details and it was over three years ago!

[Saint Garrett]

Badly managed when he arrived, and clearly a bad fit mentally, a talented player on his day, but not a good fit for the premier league. Shame he was an utter bellend, glad to get rid of him. If we have let him go for free, but got his £75k wages off the books then happy days.

In reality he’s probably gone for free and we are still contributing to his wages…

[Suhari]

Shame. There's a player in there somewhere, and I reckon we would need his input next season. After all we shipped tons of goals without him: surely worth a run of games early season?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nahhhh! I just fuckin' with ya! Good riddance. Try not to be so out of posiition that you walk into the door frame on the way out.

[ErwinK1961]

Blimey, didn't expect this so soon into the window. Great news, good riddance - terrible attitude and just all round waste of a shirt.

Hoedt, Gunn, Sims, Hesketh and Bertrand gone - hoping the likes of Long, Lemina, N'Lundulu, Moi, Obafemi and one of Forster/McCarthy to follow. If we manage that, must be pushing £500k a week in wages off the books?

[Toadhall Saint]

Thank fook for that 

[davefizzy14]

Glad we have got his wages off the books. Not sure if we have received a fee or not, that will be confirmed im pretty sure. Shame it didn't work out for him but his attitude was highly questionable, Ralph knew this. 

[StDunko]

  On 17/06/2021 at 13:21, ErwinK1961 said:

Blimey, didn't expect this so soon into the window. Great news, good riddance - terrible attitude and just all round waste of a shirt.

Hoedt, Gunn, Sims, Hesketh and Bertrand gone - hoping the likes of Long, Lemina, N'Lundulu, Moi, Obafemi and one of Forster/McCarthy to follow. If we manage that, must be pushing £500k a week in wages off the books?

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Has Gunn gone?

Must have missed that one...

[ErwinK1961]

  On 17/06/2021 at 14:51, StDunko said:

Has Gunn gone?

Must have missed that one...

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Sorry, jumped the.... Gunn... there (I'll get my coat)

 

[saint1977]

Saints have been like a person holding on for ages and then going for a big dump in the toilets of all Les’s (and his wee assistant) pension day specials tat in the damaged/ONO/only an idiot would pay that aisle. Hopefully more outgoings keep heading for the exit. The contracts winding down seem to have helped. 

Well done on your move Wesley - your SFC appearances have earned you a spot alongside Callum Davenport at CB in my worst ever SFC XI. Olivier Bernard and Steve Baker at full backs. Lee Todd just didn’t have enough appearances. 

Long, Lemina, Forster and McCarthy, Redmond, Obafemi, Vestergaard, Valery, Vokins, Ely hopefully next, Gunn to Norwich looks imminent. Wouldn’t be upset tbh if Moussa went as well, linked with loan move to Turkey but prefer to sell. Prefer to keep Danny but north of £30m the club will sell I’d have thought. Leaves a core of players who will work for the shirt at least and add some new faces who will do the same with a bit of surprise quality.

Hopefully that’s enough for 17th or better but with such a tough starting set of fixtures I wouldn’t be surprised if they are playing under a new manager by October. 

[Chapel End]

Wesley, may i be the first and probably the only one to say all the best for the future 🤭

 

 

 

 

[Eric The Red]

  On 17/06/2021 at 15:52, Chapel End said:

Wesley, may i be the first and probably the only one to say all the best for the future 🤭

 

 

 

 

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I'm happy to see him leave permanently but I also wish him well at Anderlecht

[Chez]

Do Anderlecht have the funds to match the wages on the last year of his contract here? As I doubt he will have been willing to take a pay drop this summer to get a move/longer term deal. If not, then we will be paying him a big fat `loyalty' bonus to help him on his way. Not a chance we will be getting a transfer fee, but at least it frees up wages and gets that sorted early, so we are not paying him all summer. 

 

Edited 17 June, 2021 by Chez

[Lighthouse]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they paid a nominal transfer fee which basically covers the difference in wages for the next 12 months, which we then pay off. In other words, we come out of it with net zero, don’t owe any wages and everyone moves on with their lives.

[Barsiem]

He had a good rep when he joined and seemed to be a good bit of business at the time, much like Gunn in fact. Good for all concerned that he’s moved on though

[Suhari]

I bet he scores against us in the Europa League in a couple of years.

[S-Clarke]

More great news, shifting of these sorts is exactly what we need to do. Doesn't matter about fee, just get the wages off.

[MarkSFC]

Good riddance. Lemina, Forster, McCarthy, Long, Redmond and Djeneppo to go😂😂😂

[stevy777_x]

  On 17/06/2021 at 18:22, MarkSFC said:

Good riddance. Lemina, Forster, McCarthy, Long, Redmond and Djeneppo to go😂😂😂

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Harsh on Djenepo, he just turned 23.

[MarkSFC]

  On 17/06/2021 at 18:42, stevy777_x said:

Harsh on Djenepo, he just turned 23.

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Maybe but not convinced we will see much more. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

  On 17/06/2021 at 17:34, Barsiem said:

He had a good rep when he joined and seemed to be a good bit of business at the time, much like Gunn in fact. Good for all concerned that he’s moved on though

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Exactly. I thought he was real coup when he signed for us. Dutch international defender from a top Italian team, thought he would be a great signing. Just goes to prove reputation doesn't count for everything.

[Lighthouse]

  On 17/06/2021 at 18:42, stevy777_x said:

Harsh on Djenepo, he just turned 23.

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He’s been here two years and not shown any notable signs of progression at all.

[stknowle]

  On 17/06/2021 at 19:08, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Exactly. I thought he was real coup when he signed for us. Dutch international defender from a top Italian team, thought he would be a great signing. Just goes to prove reputation doesn't count for everything.

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Exactly plus 1. I was enthused by his signing at the time for all the reasons you mention. He actually had some good skills about him but I think they inflated his ego way beyond any sensible justification. My enthusiasm started to wane when he lost the ball whilst trying to be clever with a needless 'trick' in a dangerous area which lead directly to us conceding against Bournemouth when 1 nil up. It never unwaned.

Edited 17 June, 2021 by stknowle

[LiberalCommunist]

Farewell Wes. If you are play half as good as you think you play, you'll be a legend there in not time. But no tweeting you big fanny.

Thank fuck he's gone. What a twat. 

Bet he has a dig at us in the next 48 hours. That's to all the well wishers. 

[StrangelyBrown]

Where's Les bragging about what a good signing Wes was.......

[Saint Keef]

Shit. I'm sad to see him go. Who's going to replace him in the Bambi on Ice pantomime this Christmas. 

Can someone drive him to Anderlecht, just in case he gets lost and ends up back here.

[SNSUN]

Wesley WHO-dt? A player that will soon be stricken from our memories. He'll be the player that nobody remembers in ten years that someone mentions in conversation and we respond "Oh shit yeah, I'd forgotten about him!" 

 

Good riddance and, more importantly, we now have his wages to spend on someone else. Let's just hope we don't get another Billy Big Bollocks like him and, to a point, Lemina. Bit by bit we offload the deadwood...

 

...then probably replace it with more deadwood....😁

[tajjuk]

That's probably £60k a week off the wages, overall a costly mistake though. 

Lemina and Long probably the next biggest earners we need to get rid of and whatever is happening with either or both keepers.  That is probably another £250k a week between those 4 I reckon.

 

[VectisSaint]

Just to be all MLG, he hasn't actually gone yet, he will formally sign for Anderlecht on Monday (21st). Agreement in principle only so far. Makes no difference, but the change of topic subject is inaccurate. We might get to know if there is any fee involved once the transfer becomes official.

[NorthLondonSFC]

Was the clear MOTM in the Swansea game and we could of easily lost without him. Dread to think what the last few years would of been like if we had gone downso at least there is something to take out from his time here at Saints. 

[Saint_clark]

  On 18/06/2021 at 09:17, VectisSaint said:

Just to be all MLG, he hasn't actually gone yet, he will formally sign for Anderlecht on Monday (21st). Agreement in principle only so far. Makes no difference, but the change of topic subject is inaccurate. We might get to know if there is any fee involved once the transfer becomes official.

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If we get anything for him it's superb business. Just happy to free up some wages, a year less of paying them means we have another £2.6million to add onto any transfer offer. 

[sadoldgit]

  On 17/06/2021 at 19:27, Lighthouse said:

He’s been here two years and not shown any notable signs of progression at all.

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His defensive play has improved, probably at the expense of his attacking play though.

[Charlie Wayman]

  On 17/06/2021 at 18:22, MarkSFC said:

Good riddance. Lemina, Forster, McCarthy, Long, Redmond and Djeneppo to go😂😂😂

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We do need to keep 11 players on th ebooks  'though to meet our weekend obligations

[MarkSFC]

  On 18/06/2021 at 14:49, Charlie Wayman said:

We do need to keep 11 players on th ebooks  'though to meet our weekend obligations

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Brilliant.🙄

[Dark Munster]

  On 17/06/2021 at 22:08, StrangelyBrown said:

Where's Les bragging about what a good signing Wes was.......

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[LiberalCommunist]

I wouldn't hang Wes ineptitude on Les. That's something that Wesley will have to own for years to come. 

Not a bad player, but a stinkingly bad attitude. 

[Suhari]

  On 18/06/2021 at 16:54, Dark Munster said:

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"Can't believe what a useless wanker this guy turned into."

#boththinkingthesamerightnow

#soarewe

[SuperSAINT]

  On 18/06/2021 at 09:37, NorthLondonSFC said:

Was the clear MOTM in the Swansea game and we could of easily lost without him. Dread to think what the last few years would of been like if we had gone downso at least there is something to take out from his time here at Saints. 

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TBF, this is genuinely a good point.  

He's been VERY well paid for that 1 game though.

Edited 18 June, 2021 by SuperSAINT

[Turkish]

  On 18/06/2021 at 09:37, NorthLondonSFC said:

Was the clear MOTM in the Swansea game and we could of easily lost without him. Dread to think what the last few years would of been like if we had gone downso at least there is something to take out from his time here at Saints. 

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He clearly has talent, remember that Swansea game!

[Patrick Bateman]

  On 18/06/2021 at 20:45, LiberalCommunist said:

I wouldn't hang Wes ineptitude on Les. That's something that Wesley will have to own for years to come. 

Not a bad player, but a stinkingly bad attitude. 

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The black box weeded out players with bad attitudes apparently. What utter tripe. 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

  On 18/06/2021 at 22:23, Patrick Bateman said:

The black box weeded out players with bad attitudes apparently. What utter tripe. 

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As Crocker put it: "We have to be strategic and stick to our principles. We have made mistakes with signings that do not fit within our principles so a big part of my job is to make sure that we stick to the plan."

https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-ralph-hasenhuttl-summer-transfer-5499976

[austsaint]

  On 18/06/2021 at 22:23, Patrick Bateman said:

The black box weeded out players with bad attitudes apparently. What utter tripe. 

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Wasn't Mitchell gone by the time Hoedt arrived?    Mitchell was the "black box"....

[Neef]

Wish him well in the future. 
 

It’s no coincidence that most of the players who arrived in that Puel / Pellegrino / Hughes era have not been successful here. It must’ve been the worst time to join the club and an environment not conducive for any kind of sustained success: numerous changes in manager, playing style & philosophy. Add to that the constant upheaval of the squad & the poor managerial and executive appointments, (even a change in ownership?).
 

And it’s not just the transfers that didn’t work out. The young players coming through the academy suffered because of it. Also, to this day I still struggle to think of any players who actually improved during that era (Romeu & Hojbjerg maybe?). 
 

So it’s no surprise to me that players who arrived with rumoured potential in that time period have massively failed to perform. Some of it is on them of course, but we can’t overlook the wider context and club they arrived into. 
 

But with these players off the books & new ownership in the pipeline (fingers crossed), hopefully we can begin to move into a new chapter.

[Mr X]

  On 17/06/2021 at 19:27, Lighthouse said:

He’s been here two years and not shown any notable signs of progression at all.

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Has all the football skill but no football brain, constantly tries to do too much with too many tricks, walks into trouble. loses possession, repeats. 

Redmond you of anyone?