Wesley Hoedt

[SuperSAINT]

  On 23/09/2020 at 13:07, Jeremy Corbyn said:

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Last I read, we get a Loan fee and pay half his 60k p/week wages.

#TheUnsellables

Edited 23 September, 2020 by SuperSAINT

[Turkish]

  On 23/09/2020 at 13:08, SuperSAINT said:

Last I read, we get a Loan fee and pay half his 60k p/week wages.

#TheUnsellables

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 🤣 very good 

[Saint-Armstrong]

Medical tomorrow. Being reported as a loan and then a compulsory purchase of 5m next summer.

 

[SuperSAINT]

  On 25/09/2020 at 15:25, Saint-Armstrong said:

Medical tomorrow. Being reported as a loan and then a compulsory purchase of 5m next summer.

 

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Compulsory you say?

[East Kent Saint]

Excellent 

[SuperSAINT]

  On 25/09/2020 at 15:29, East Kent Saint said:

Excellent 

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Yeah. Everything I’d read was that it was going to be an option.  Fantastic if it’s an obligation.

[Saint-Armstrong]

  On 25/09/2020 at 15:30, SuperSAINT said:

Yeah. Everything I’d read was that it was going to be an option.  Fantastic if it’s an obligation.

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I could be wrong, but sure I read earlier that they were now saying it's an obligation. Would be great if it was.

[davefizzy14]

  On 25/09/2020 at 16:23, Saint-Armstrong said:

I could be wrong, but sure I read earlier that they were now saying it's an obligation. Would be great if it was.

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Hopefully, would be great news. 

Edited 25 September, 2020 by davefizzy14

[Chez]

  On 23/09/2020 at 13:08, SuperSAINT said:

Last I read, we get a Loan fee and pay half his 60k p/week wages.

#TheUnsellables

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why would you get a loan fee if you are still having to pay half his wages? Surely you'd just get Lazio to pay a greater percentage of his wages? Doesn't make sense, unless their is some sort of tax reason I am unaware of?

[Toadhall Saint]

Think it’s only an option to buy according to this

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/lazio-hoedt-arrives-at-fiumicino-he-will-undergo-medicals-saturday

[Saint Keef]

Apologies if this comment appears twice - submitted it a couple of hours ago, but it has "disappeared" unless it was deleted for some reason.

Bambi on Ice! I hope Hoedt's medical doesn't include his footballing brain, or his basic ability to coordinate limb movements.......Oh, wait a minute......Hi Lazio, yeh you've got a great player there. We've also got this chap Carrillo, an absolute "goal machine"......oh, and how are you off for goalkeepers?

[Toadhall Saint]

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-lazio-hoedt-transfer-medical-cancelled/

[S-Clarke]

  On 26/09/2020 at 16:43, Toadhall Saint said:

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-lazio-hoedt-transfer-medical-cancelled/

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Seems as if they've seen the light.

Shame for us.

[CamSaint]

Wonder if he tested positive for Covid? He could have had a test before he left yesterday and the result came through today or could have had a 'quick response' test this morning before the medical?

 

[skintsaint]

  On 26/09/2020 at 21:47, CamSaint said:

Wonder if he tested positive for Covid? He could have had a test before he left yesterday and the result came through today or could have had a 'quick response' test this morning before the medical?

 

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More than likely, would seem a bit strange to 'big him up' on their social media to then not want him.

[Lord Duckhunter]

They watched our game Saturday and thought, fuck me if he can’t get a game for them, he must be awful. 

[waylander]

  On 27/09/2020 at 10:37, Lord Duckhunter said:

They watched our game Saturday and thought, fuck me if he can’t get a game for them, he must be awful. 

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I thought our CBs played pretty well on Saturday, Vestergaard looked like the player we thought we bought.

Edited 27 September, 2020 by waylander
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[S-Clarke]

  On 27/09/2020 at 10:40, waylander said:

I thought our CBs played pretty well on Saturday, Vestergaard looked liek the player we thought we bought.

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He's made for those sort of games against those sorts of CF's.

The problem is when you put him up against movement and pace, that's when you see his real limitations and why he'll never be a regular for us.

[SuperSAINT]

Still no medical planned: http://sportwitness.co.uk/mystery-around-southampton-players-move-another-club-medical-postponed/

[Nordic Saint]

  On 28/09/2020 at 12:26, SuperSAINT said:

Still no medical planned: http://sportwitness.co.uk/mystery-around-southampton-players-move-another-club-medical-postponed/

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Maybe Saints haven't paid for it yet.

[Turkish]

  On 28/09/2020 at 12:26, SuperSAINT said:

Still no medical planned: http://sportwitness.co.uk/mystery-around-southampton-players-move-another-club-medical-postponed/

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"stuck in a hotel room" Sounds like he's isolating. Must be Covid. 

[skintsaint]

'Mystery'

[Convict Colony]

Their sporting director doesn't seem too concerned.

"4 players are missing: Fares is missing, Muriqi is missing, Hoedt is missing and Pereira is missing and will arrive in 2-3 days".
 

[Saint Keef]

  On 30/09/2020 at 09:22, Turkish said:

"stuck in a hotel room" Sounds like he's isolating. Must be Covid. 

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Or he can't find the door....he's tried several times but keeps walking into the bathroom.

[darren2]

  On 30/09/2020 at 18:07, Saint Keef said:

Or he can't find the door....he's tried several times but keeps walking into the bathroom.

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Then he'll still blame someone else 🙄 

[verlaine1979]

  On 27/09/2020 at 10:40, waylander said:

I thought our CBs played pretty well on Saturday, Vestergaard looked like the player we thought we bought.

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Eh, he did okay, but still seemed to want to win headers against Wood by leaning towards the ball rather than jumping. He's a better option than Stephens in that situation, but only just.

[John D]

Would he be in quarantine having entered from the UK?  No idea what rules are in Italy and can't be arsed to Google it!

[Chez]

  On 30/09/2020 at 19:43, John D said:

Would he be in quarantine having entered from the UK?  No idea what rules are in Italy and can't be arsed to Google it!

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not directly from UK. If he was coming from some places in the EU he'd just have to take a test. Only if he came from Romania, Brazil...would he need to isolate for 14 days.

Edited 1 October, 2020 by Chez

[CamSaint]

I suppose another possibility is that someone on Lazio's medical team has tested positive and the others are self-isolating so they can't actually carry out the medical?

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I've heard Wesley is currently wandering around Lazio's training facility looking for the chap that does the medicals but once again he's lost his man...

[Lighthouse]

  On 01/10/2020 at 15:56, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

I've heard Wesley is currently wandering around Lazio's training facility looking for the chap that does the medicals but once again he's lost his man...

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Perhaps it was Roma who made the actual bid, he’s just a few miles out of position.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

From the Sky Sports Transfer Centre, Wesley may have caught up with the medicals guy at last...

Edited 2 October, 2020 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

[SuperSAINT]

#TheUnsellables

[Saint Garrett]

Option...ffs

[Turkish]

  On 17/08/2017 at 17:23, Matthew Le God said:

 

Why don't you believe the club when they said van Dijk isn't going to be sold? A day after new owners, Krueger's statement yesterday would look ridiculous if they u-turn on it.

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[Matthew Le God]

@Turkish I'm puzzled what you think was incorrect in that post. Yet again you are reading things that aren't there. 🙄

[SuperSAINT]

 

[david in sweden]

  On 09/09/2020 at 13:10, Lord Duckhunter said:

Who was in charge of recruitment during the successful Koeman years? 

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Not Ross Wilson for sure ....

[SuperSAINT]

  On 18/10/2020 at 20:02, david in sweden said:

Not Ross Wilson for sure ....

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Paul Mitchell & then Wilson, IIRC.

[david in sweden]

Les Reed was the figurehead for the entire process, and perhaps took credit for some of " Mitchell's signings"

after PM  left...it seemed like Reed just passed over responsibility to Wilson, because the standard of recruits was poor

not to mention the size of some of the fees we paid out.   Wilson was out of his depth and OK'd some very poor choices.

Hoedt was a bad choice.  Bednarek was better AND cost only one  third of Hoedt's fee.

I think I'd give Claude Puel his share of the blame ...for letting Jose Fonte go ..because he thought VvD could take over that role.

Two weeks later Jamie Vardy crocked Van Dijk and we lost him for 6 months...(Liverpool have the same problem now).

[Matthew Le God]

  On 18/10/2020 at 20:02, david in sweden said:

Not Ross Wilson for sure ....

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Koeman joined in summer 2014

Wilson joined in March 2015

van Dijk joined in summer 2015

Koeman left in summer 2016

[david in sweden]

  On 18/10/2020 at 20:25, Matthew Le God said:

Koeman joined in summer 2014

Wilson joined in March 2015

van Dijk joined in summer 2015

Koeman left in summer 2016

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I don't think Wilson would dare to take credit for signing VvD. 

IIRC. .Saints were only one of several Prem. club who had watched him at Celtic, but most thought.. " he wouldn't make it in the Prem ."

otherwise I'm sure they would have bid for him long before we did.   Koeman bought 8 players in his first season , and most of them

were his (Dutch) choices and not necessarily those on any club list, although I'm sure we knew about them. 

Puel's main contribution to the squad ...was to sign Boufal. 

[Suhari]

  On 18/10/2020 at 20:35, david in sweden said:

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Puel's main contribution to the squad ...was to sign Boufal. 

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Which does make me smirk. How does Boufal fit in any way with Puels approach to footie?!

[david in sweden]

  On 18/10/2020 at 22:24, Suhari said:

Which does make me smirk. How does Boufal fit in any way with Puels approach to footie?!

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Most managers like the idea of .......signing someone they know of ...or, who had played for them ....or they tried to sign before... 

Many times it's a disaster ... Pochettino signed Osvaldo ..  and Carrillo persuaded us to sign Carrillo....(!)

Koeman did a great job with his " Dutch" signings ... (not all Dutch)  but he knew them from their time in Holland....

but Puel (in interview) said that he knew of  Boufal from the French league and was glad to have him in the Saints side....

I'm just glad that Mark Hughes wasn't with us long enough for him to be allowed to sign some of his " veterans " ...

[Ted Bates Statue]

  On 20/10/2020 at 16:01, david in sweden said:

I'm just glad that Mark Hughes wasn't with us long enough for him to be allowed to sign some of his " veterans " ...

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I recall Danny Ings was classified as a Mark Hughes panic buy, back when we were all speculating as to how we could wriggle out of the obligation to buy.

[Suhari]

  On 20/10/2020 at 17:02, Ted Bates Statue said:

I recall Danny Ings was classified as a Mark Hughes panic buy, back when we were all speculating as to how we could wriggle out of the obligation to buy.

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Yep. And I thought he was an expensive, crappy signing that we should never have made.

I may have been somewhat mistaken.

[SuperSAINT]

http://sportwitness.co.uk/lazio-southampton-wesley-hoedt-transfer-january/

[Tamesaint]

  On 05/12/2020 at 15:32, SuperSAINT said:

http://sportwitness.co.uk/lazio-southampton-wesley-hoedt-transfer-january/

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Considering his  reputation at Saints, it is interesting that the word "humility" is being used to describe Hoedt's performances.

[The Cat]

Is he actually not that bad? Can't say I've watched any Lazio games but he's obviously played a load of matches, including Champions League, so must be doing something right. Played against Dortmund the other day and they only let in one. 

On the bench today by the looks of it.

[Saint Keef]

There must be two Wesley Hoedt's.  We can't be talking about the same one I saw doing "Bambi on Ice" impersonations at Southampton. ....and pretty good ones at that.