Window Cleaner Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10449153/filing-history Allotted shares recently setup by Lander Sports UK so what does that mean then ?
Red Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 so what does that mean then ? That Lander Sports have issued shares against outstanding debt - usually a good thing (not always though) as the person owed the debt believes they will get a bigger/better return from said company than just having their loaned money repaid. However nothing to do with us directly, as we are not owned by Lander Sports, nor are they part of the security against any loans for our investment. Indirectly if majority owner (Gao) of Lander Sports does well, it's good for his personal wealth. Really need to understand who bought the shares and why?
Window Cleaner Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 . Really need to understand who bought the shares and why? Personally no but I'm sure that someone does.
Delmary Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 That Lander Sports have issued shares against outstanding debt - usually a good thing (not always though) as the person owed the debt believes they will get a bigger/better return from said company than just having their loaned money repaid. However nothing to do with us directly, as we are not owned by Lander Sports, nor are they part of the security against any loans for our investment. Indirectly if majority owner (Gao) of Lander Sports does well, it's good for his personal wealth. Really need to understand who bought the shares and why? It's the UK company that the family setup to purchase Saints. Nothing to do with Lander Sports China.
hutch Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 So that's Southampton Football Club Ltd. which is 100% owned by DMWSL613 Ltd (or something like that from memory) which is 80% owned by Lander Sports UK Ltd. which is 100% owned by the Gao family. Is that about right?
Faz Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 That Lander Sports have issued shares against outstanding debt - usually a good thing (not always though) as the person owed the debt believes they will get a bigger/better return from said company than just having their loaned money repaid. However nothing to do with us directly, as we are not owned by Lander Sports, nor are they part of the security against any loans for our investment. Indirectly if majority owner (Gao) of Lander Sports does well, it's good for his personal wealth. Really need to understand who bought the shares and why? We don't yet know whether Lander Sports UK is our owner or not. Seems likely as the issuing of 184m £1 share is in exchange for equivalent debt to Lander Sports Investment Co., Ltd (a Hong Kong registered Company), and is pretty close to what Kat received. Southampton Football Club Ltd is owned by St Mary's Football Group Ltd - owned by Kat. So either Lander Sports UK have acquired the shares in Southampton Football Club Ltd, or in St Mary's Football Group Ltd. Makes no odds. Ms Gao is the only Director of Lander Sports UK.
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 So that's Southampton Football Club Ltd. which is 100% owned by DMWSL613 Ltd (or something like that from memory) which is 80% owned by Lander Sports UK Ltd. which is 100% owned by the Gao family. Is that about right? Sounds right.
Bad Wolf Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 So that's Southampton Football Club Ltd. which is 100% owned by DMWSL613 Ltd (or something like that from memory) which is 80% owned by Lander Sports UK Ltd. which is 100% owned by the Gao family. Is that about right? Probably...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 I wonder who's going to get the 1st sit-down interview with Gao / Nelly about their intentions for the club?
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 I wonder who's going to get the 1st sit-down interview with Gao / Nelly about their intentions for the club? Mick Channon.
Raging Bull Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 I wonder who's going to get the 1st sit-down interview with Gao / Nelly about their intentions for the club? Micky Quinn
Miltonaggro Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 I wonder who's going to get the 1st sit-down interview with Gao / Nelly about their intentions for the club? David Frost.
Badger Posted 2 September, 2017 Posted 2 September, 2017 I wonder who's going to get the 1st sit-down interview with Gao / Nelly about their intentions for the club? How's Big Adam's Cantonese or Mandarin coming along ?
Lets B Avenue Posted 3 September, 2017 Posted 3 September, 2017 How's Big Adam's Cantonese or Mandarin coming along ? He can probably make the "All you can eat buffet".
Paul Chuckle Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 I see on Instagram that Mr Yao met Yoshida after the Japan Australia match https://www.instagram.com/p/BYnDMJzn40f/
Paul Chuckle Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 I see on Instagram that Mr Yao met Yoshida after the Japan Australia match Mr Gao even
farawaysaint Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 Mr Gao even He is so mini compared to Maya
oldsarum Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 He is so mini compared to Maya blimey he's small is he the bloke who was a co star in Hangover Flims ?
SuperSAINT Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 I see on Instagram that Mr Yao met Yoshida after the Japan Australia match Cool pic! - Cheers for posting.
spyinthesky Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 Apparently there is a story in today's Birmingham Mail which puts into question the financing of West Midlands clubs (Vilia/Birmingham/WBA and Wolves) who are all owned by Chinese interests being able to get finance out of China where the Govt is becoming increasing strict in allowing funds to exit the country. Presumably our new owners will be similarly affected
hutch Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 Are you suggesting that Saints should remit the club's income to China?
Miltonaggro Posted 4 September, 2017 Posted 4 September, 2017 I see on Instagram that Mr Yao met Yoshida after the Japan Australia match Good Lord, Tattoo mark two - 'Theee plane Mr Reed theee plane...'
SuperSAINT Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15554167.New_owners_watch_first_Saints_game/?ref=rss
richardc Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15554167.New_owners_watch_first_Saints_game/?ref=rss he only came to see utd
doddisalegend Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 Thought he got polite if rather muted welcome when introduced today.
Katalinic Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 Thought he got polite if rather muted welcome when introduced today. And rightly so, we have no idea what his intentions are yet.
sadoldgit Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 And rightly so, we have no idea what his intentions are yet. So let’s just assume the worst eh?
Katalinic Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 So let’s just assume the worst eh? Not at all, thus the polite, muted welcome.
shurlock Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 Not at all, thus the polite, muted welcome. Exactly. The pious prat can't help himself.
Mowgli Posted 23 September, 2017 Posted 23 September, 2017 Did we really chant 'Red Army' when he was introduced....????
saint lard Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 She had the decency to reply also.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
simo Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 But will he turn up for next weekend's cold windy day up at Stoke !?
ericb Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 But will he turn up for next weekend's cold windy day up at Stoke !? Nope, he's probably only going to be over three times a season, his daughter on the other hand will be over far more often. Sounds like they do have cash, but expect that to divulge itself as business opportunities in the city as much as investment in the club.
Badger Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 So there's an account account named Ivanajewelry. Is that a company owned by the Gao's ?
saintmonkey1979 Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 So there's an account account named Ivanajewelry. Is that a company owned by the Gao's ?I can't find much about it, other than it is based in Jakarta, so it could be. Wasn't it mentioned that Mr Gao had creditors or interests in Indonesia? I could be making that up, but it does ring a bell Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
hypochondriac Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 Would be nice to hear from them at some point about their plans or why they have bought into the club. Something like a radio solent fans forum might be a useful time to ask some questions.
sadoldgit Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 Exactly. The pious prat can't help himself. What ever you say. Pal. Seems odd that the expectation is that the new owner could be a negative thing, but don’t let that stop you being a ****.
hypochondriac Posted 24 September, 2017 Posted 24 September, 2017 What ever you say. Pal. Seems odd that the expectation is that the new owner could be a negative thing, but don’t let that stop you being a ****.What expectation you weirdo? Muted applause isn't an expectation that the new owner is negative but people are hardly going to clap like seals just because they show up, people have to earn trust and support.
Sour Mash Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 I wonder if KL will continue to attend games regularly?
foxy9143 Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 She had the decency to reply also....] Someone needs to have a word about the normal standards of twittering by the English football supporter. When we lose 4 -0 to Bournemouth it may be best if someone vets her incoming before she sees it!
hutch Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 Someone needs to have a word about the normal standards of twittering by the English football supporter. When we lose 4 -0 to Bournemouth it may be best if someone vets her incoming before she sees it! I think twitter will be something people read about in history books by the time that happens
Saint 76er Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 Would be nice to hear from them at some point about their plans or why they have bought into the club. Something like a radio solent fans forum might be a useful time to ask some questions. Not sure if Mr Gao actually speaks English, although Nelly appears to ok judging by her twitter responses (unless she has someone to write them). As an aside she may perhaps have a franchise to sell Ivana Trump jewelry in Asia going by her twitter handle? Anyway, after the takeover Ralph did some media interviews and said words to the effect that as soon as the transfer window closed he would shortly thereafter make further comments explaining in more detail what benefits going forward we could expect from the takeover and indicated that these would be very good. Perhaps this is the reason Mr Gao is visiting at this time as Ralph must be due, if not overdue, to provide his update.
Nordic Saint Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 It was good to see Mr Gao and his daughter looking so happy and appreciative of the applause we greeted them with. Initial impressions of the new ownership are promising.
ericb Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 Not sure if Mr Gao actually speaks English, although Nelly appears to ok judging by her twitter responses (unless she has someone to write them). As an aside she may perhaps have a franchise to sell Ivana Trump jewelry in Asia going by her twitter handle? Anyway, after the takeover Ralph did some media interviews and said words to the effect that as soon as the transfer window closed he would shortly thereafter make further comments explaining in more detail what benefits going forward we could expect from the takeover and indicated that these would be very good. Perhaps this is the reason Mr Gao is visiting at this time as Ralph must be due, if not overdue, to provide his update. Mr Gao speaks no english and Nelly's is limited (as are their team). Believe this is being sorted though.
hutch Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 On that basis I expect they understand what Ralph is talking about as much as we do.
saint lard Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 It’s her Instagram account .....no idea if she has twitter. She posts quite regularly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
saint lard Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 Looks like she had a good look around!... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hackedoff Posted 25 September, 2017 Posted 25 September, 2017 Looks like she had a good look around!... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hope that she didn't think that was the trophy cabinet.
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