ziggee Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 I can’t understand why no English clubs have pushed the boat out for this lad. Even for 35mil; at 21 he would be a great investment. A few rough edges to be sure, but he has all the attributes to be a world class CB in the near future. Admittedly, we would be just one step up the ladder, but he’s the only CB around who maybe available, and is an improvement on Stephens/Yoshida. Sell for 120mil in 3 years, or a goat and two hens, depending on how things pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 Work permit could be difficult and it's very unlikely Ajax would want to sell him or listen to offers (unless it's silly money). Sanchez must be the biggest talent at CB in the world atm. He could play another season at Ajax and make the move to Barcelona (according to sources in Holland). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 He's not going to give up CL football for us. Looked tremendous last season. I think that boat has sailed, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 He's not going to give up CL football for us. Looked tremendous last season. I think that boat has sailed, sadly. Money talks. CL doesn't pay you a huge amount more - maybe a small win bonus or appearance bonus. This European football excuse that players trot out, is just that, an excuse that is very much secondary to one's weekly wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 (edited) Money talks. CL doesn't pay you a huge amount more - maybe a small win bonus or appearance bonus. This European football excuse that players trot out, is just that, an excuse that is very much secondary to one's weekly wage. fair point, but I'd of thought a move to a CL club that also pays a shed load of money is on the cards for him. He was linked with Barca earlier in the year, who knows if that interest was real, but I think it gives an indication of his level. What a signing that would be. The kind that would instantly ease the pain of losing VVD. Just noticed that Ajax went out of the CL qualifiers, so one less reason to stay at Ajax. Edited 8 August, 2017 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 http://www.transfermarkt.com/davinson-sanchez/profil/spieler/341429 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 He's not going to give up CL football for us. Looked tremendous last season. I think that boat has sailed, sadly. Ajax lost to Olympique Nice in the 2nd round of qualifiers for the CL. Anyway I can see Sanchez leaving for Spain after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 Excellent player, though probably not as good as Yerry Mina, the Colombian centre back at Palmeiras. Suspect both players are on the shopping lists of bigger and better clubs than us, both have been mentioned in dispatches as targets for Barcelona etc in the past. Don't think work permits would be that hard though given Colombia's high FIFA ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 Also, as Richarlison has been granted a work permit despite the fact that he has only 9 caps for the Brazilian U20 team and is a long way away from getting full caps, it would not be too difficult for Sánchez to get a permit. The situation is rather different with players from lower ranked teams in the world rankings, as can be seen in the case of Peñaranda, also at Watford, who can't get a permit yet and has had to be loaned abroad. Similar situation to Richarlison, but more caps, but Venezuela have a very low ranking. For what it is worth, I wonder if there is any mileage in trying to set up a scouting network in South America. There are some bargains to be had, and many young players would have good sell on value - obviously does go against our own youth policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 Also, as Richarlison has been granted a work permit despite the fact that he has only 9 caps for the Brazilian U20 team and is a long way away from getting full caps, it would not be too difficult for Sánchez to get a permit. The situation is rather different with players from lower ranked teams in the world rankings, as can be seen in the case of Peñaranda, also at Watford, who can't get a permit yet and has had to be loaned abroad. Similar situation to Richarlison, but more caps, but Venezuela have a very low ranking. For what it is worth, I wonder if there is any mileage in trying to set up a scouting network in South America. There are some bargains to be had, and many young players would have good sell on value - obviously does go against our own youth policy. Well after our experience with Arias, Delgado, Chala, Ramirez, Osvaldo I am not sure it will be well received do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 Well after our experience with Arias, Delgado, Chala, Ramirez, Osvaldo I am not sure it will be well received do you? No reason why it can't work. I think clubs in England used to be a long way behind the times about how to look after foreign players, particularly those from South America, who come from very very different backgrounds, and often were poorly integrated and not helped settle in a new country. Now that we have a much more globalised game, and a more professional approach to these issues as well, there is no reason why South American players couldn't succeed. It's always a risk, but we could equally point to a lot of English players that were bought and failed as well. If you do the scouting and research properly and make sure you help the players settle in then it could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?56199-Summer-Transfer-Targets-Thread#.WYnluK2ZNOE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggee Posted 8 August, 2017 Author Share Posted 8 August, 2017 No reason why it can't work. I think clubs in England used to be a long way behind the times about how to look after foreign players, particularly those from South America, who come from very very different backgrounds, and often were poorly integrated and not helped settle in a new country. Now that we have a much more globalised game, and a more professional approach to these issues as well, there is no reason why South American players couldn't succeed. It's always a risk, but we could equally point to a lot of English players that were bought and failed as well. If you do the scouting and research properly and make sure you help the players settle in then it could work. He turned down a contract with Barcelona last year because he didn’t want to play for their B Team , so he may see a team like ours as a good interim move. Seems to have settled in Holland ok, and having a South American Coach who speaks his language would do no harm either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 He's not going to give up CL football for us. Looked tremendous last season. I think that boat has sailed, sadly. If merely a better chance of Champions League football was their concern then... - Clasie & Pelle would have stayed at Feyenoord - van Dijk, Foster & Wanyama would have stayed at Celtic - Cedric would have stayed at Sporting Lisbon - Mane at Red Bull Salzburg etc etc They didn't stay, because playing in the Premier League & having Premier League wages is a bigger draw for them than Champions League football at a club in a smaller European league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 August, 2017 Share Posted 9 August, 2017 Spurs linked with £35m bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 August, 2017 Share Posted 10 August, 2017 If merely a better chance of Champions League football was their concern then... - Clasie & Pelle would have stayed at Feyenoord - van Dijk, Foster & Wanyama would have stayed at Celtic - Cedric would have stayed at Sporting Lisbon - Mane at Red Bull Salzburg etc etc They didn't stay, because playing in the Premier League & having Premier League wages is a bigger draw for them than Champions League football at a club in a smaller European league. fair point. What I meant was that, unlike all of those mentioned, I think he might believe he get a move to another CL club that pay the big wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Spurs linked with £35m bid.like us they seem to have a good eye for centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 like us they seem to have a good eye for centre backs. You'd expect Poch to know a thing or two about CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 It's really not that hard to spot a top one. They jump out at you, there are so few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggee Posted 12 August, 2017 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2017 He turned down a contract with Barcelona last year because he didn’t want to play for their B Team , so he may see a team like ours as a good interim move. Seems to have settled in Holland ok, and having a South American Coach who speaks his language would do no harm either. Unfortunately these things apply to Spurs as well, and Levi knows a good investment when he sees one. It’s a shame we didn’t at least try, and if we end up with Wimmer for £20million, I may have to sob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggee Posted 12 August, 2017 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2017 It is, if you think we should be paying 20m for a 3rd choice CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Going to Spurs for £38m according to SSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Going to Spurs for £38m according to SSN Would suggest Wimmer is going somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Going to Spurs for £38m according to SSN That's been lined up for the last couple of weeks I think, they've just been waiting for the WP and bits to be finalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Would suggest Wimmer is going somewhere. He's off for sure. I reckon WBA, with Jonny Evans moving to City for 25-30m on deadline day. Just a hunch, but can see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 He's off for sure. I reckon WBA, with Jonny Evans moving to City for 25-30m on deadline day. Just a hunch, but can see it happening. Palace & Stoke looking at him as well, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Palace & Stoke looking at him as well, apparently. Yeah I saw Stoke linked with him, but then saw Stoke linked with Mangala as well. And they already have Shawcross, Zouma, Martins-Indi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Yeah I saw Stoke linked with him, but then saw Stoke linked with Mangala as well. And they already have Shawcross, Zouma, Martins-Indi I thought I heard on a podcast somewhere that the Zouma deal was costing Stoke £8m all-in (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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