Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Has he gone yet? Yes he signed along with Falcao there is a picture https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDeyw5GXYAMQH20.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Do well in the Champions League and that will be good exposure for him. Seems to have proper thrown his toys out of the pram with us...he barely put any effort in even when he DID want to play for us. Never forgave him for that horrendous display in the semi-final against Chelsea. This, with bells on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 25,000 Cim Bom fans turned up at Istanbul airport to welcome Falcao. Not sure how many Mario got! Still, swapping the Woolston Ferry for the Bosphorus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 20:50 LEMINA LOANED TO GALA Southampton midfielder Mario Lemina has joined Galatasaray on a one-year loan deal for an initial fee of €1m. The Turkish champions also have the option to buy the player next summer for €16m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Does this mean I no longer have to have #TonicLikeLeminade shoehorned into my psyche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 If he couldn't get premier League was always going to be a club in the champions League, though he wanted to stay in premier League. That didn't happen as clubs wouldn't pay (high) loan fee and/or commitment to buy at and of season. Personally terms were agreed with one but clubs couldn't agree. Europe was always the backup, lots of interest, but wanted CL football and gala covering wages. Not a commitment to buy, but he's a talented footballer so here's hoping he shines. Personally wanted another season out of him, but premier league clubs turned his head and then there was no turning back. Saints allowed him to talk to others, couldn't agree fees, and then he was off the Ralph train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Think that just about completes the great SFC enema clearance for now , anyone need a tube for anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 £20m on a 4 year contract, and we loan him out for €1m with a €16m option. Fine if they take the option, but pretty p1ss poor if they don't. One would hope that we aren't paying any of his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDog07 Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Hope he does well, gets a few goals and a bag full of assists under his belt now they’ve gone and signed Falcao. Would snap your hand off for £16m back. He obviously doesn’t want to be here, he wants and thinks he’s good enough for the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Certainly one who let the door bang on his backside on the way out. Surprised he didn’t get a kick in the pants from Hughes at Wolves when he took about 10 minutes to change his boots mid game. Promised much, tempted us with the odd fancy - but overall ran his blueprint of doing pretty much bugger all and pocketing a wage. I guess the premier league was a bit too much like hard work for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Personally, I didn't want him to play for us again after his showing against Chelsea in the FA cup semi final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Certainly one who let the door bang on his backside on the way out. Surprised he didn’t get a kick in the pants from Hughes at Wolves when he took about 10 minutes to change his boots mid game. Promised much, tempted us with the odd fancy - but overall ran his blueprint of doing pretty much bugger all and pocketing a wage. I guess the premier league was a bit too much like hard work for him. This. Good riddance to the arrogant tw*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Personally, I didn't want him to play for us again after his showing against Chelsea in the FA cup semi final. You're the second person I've seen now make a similar comment. I didn't get to watch that game, so how bad was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 You're the second person I've seen now make a similar comment. I didn't get to watch that game, so how bad was he? He was awful, never have I seen a player put such little effort into a game (possibly only rivalled by Austin v Fulham away last season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 He was awful, never have I seen a player put such little effort into a game (possibly only rivalled by Austin v Fulham away last season) This, and on a big stage totally anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 This, and on a big stage totally anonymous It was this game that made me realise that Lemina was a head-case; the opportunity to show off his wares against a really big club, at an iconic stadium and he just couldn't be arsed. Great way to put yourself in the shop window for a top club to take notice, Mario! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 What sticks in my mind was when he was attacking our end, and he had fluffed it, he was wandering about behind Chelsea's goal line, while Chelsea were on the break and attacking us. He clearly couldn't give 2 hoots about getting back and helping out. Give me someone like Romeu or Yoshida any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 For all the rights and wrongs of Leminas performances and transfer, it does now seem very odd that we let Reed go out on loan given our lack of strength in depth in midfield. If Smallbone or Slattery we're thought highly enough of to be better back-up options than Reed, stranger still that neither featured in the Fulham squad, especially with PEH playing left back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 With this show pony in the side Pompey had cause to call us pony fiddlers. Lots of talent but no work ethic. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 For all the rights and wrongs of Leminas performances and transfer, it does now seem very odd that we let Reed go out on loan given our lack of strength in depth in midfield. If Smallbone or Slattery we're thought highly enough of to be better back-up options than Reed, stranger still that neither featured in the Fulham squad, especially with PEH playing left back! This would be the same Reed that’s made one start for Fulham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Hardly the type of loan that will put him in the shop window if he does well - that said, Turkish football is slightly better than Scottish football (see Forster and Moi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 This would be the same Reed that’s made one start for Fulham? Well, yes, kind of supporting the point that championship Fulham appear to have better midfield squad depth than we do. It is a bit of a worry ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 More interested in Instagram then playing football hope he never plays for us again the waste Of space.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 (edited) There's a very good player in there somewhere, unfortunately he just never came out very often. I was at Wembley so understand the vitriol, but I was also at West Brom where the other Mario showed up.... ah well. Edited 3 September, 2019 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 funny how none of the so called 'big clubs' in the Prem came in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 I guess the attraction of playing alongside stars such as Ward Prowse diminished over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Does this mean I no longer have to have #TonicLikeLeminade shoehorned into my psyche? Tonic isn't really like Lemonade though is it? Even in both contexts of the word "tonic", this slogan is a bit cr*p and doesn't really make sense or work on any level I can deduce. Stick to playing football and learning the benefits of humility. I used to really like Lemina. He started with a seemingly good attitude from afar. Not sure the catalyst and where it all went wrong. Another talented player blinded by the overwhelming urge to fast track his way to wealth and status without putting a shift in (eh Lovren? The King of self grandeur, ego and deluded sense of self worth. The worst player I have witnessed in terms of attitude over the last decade of world football). I appreciate many players have got away with little effort for large reward but surely it gives a better sense of satisfaction achieving success through sheer hard work and determination but I am judging him with my own standards which is my main mistake. Lemina is better off putting the effort in as many other footballers more successfully manage. It's still a pretty charmed life but that lazy and arrogant mindset which plagues so many footballers of undoubted talent ruins the modern game for me in a sense and that preoccupation with materialism has hamstrung his ability to leap like to higher peaks. I remember Saints had similar issues in the dressing room around the time of Carlton Palmer's arrival when CP and another senior commented and condemned the dressing room for the excessive focus on money and materialism rather than football. He'd never experienced a dressing room like it. Tedious conversations and an endemic preponderance for status and players with a sense of entitlement and the complete lack of sporting hunger and drive for success. We needed that Northern attitude at the time; much less materialism (as is common place on the South Coast and Southampton), and much more drive and determination with a sense of teamwork. Luckily, we have Ralph who is clearly a great man manager very much focused on the psychological as well as tactical side of the game which is half the battle in the modern game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Well, yes, kind of supporting the point that championship Fulham appear to have better midfield squad depth than we do. It is a bit of a worry ... Of course, completely supports that view. In much the same way as Jack Rose not playing for Walsall means they have better goalkeeping options than Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Of course, completely supports that view. In much the same way as Jack Rose not playing for Walsall means they have better goalkeeping options than Saints. Now you're just being a tool, as you probably know. Aside from the fact he was only ever bought to support the u21 team, if he was here Rose would be (at best) 4th choice. He has played 9 league 2 games in his career, and none for 3 seasons. Reed has 102 appearances, 17 in the premier league, the rest in the championship, 72 in the last two seasons. Plus 16 England youth caps. You're talking about a non entity, I'm talking about a viable option. The obvious issue is that in a months time when romeu picks up his 5th booking and PEH gets sent off in the same game, we start the next match with a midfield of...??? We are extremely thin on the ground in midfield, yes, probably thinner than Fulham. We're ok for goalkeepers, though. Probably better than walsall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Danso Armstrong and JWP? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 20:50 LEMINA LOANED TO GALA Southampton midfielder Mario Lemina has joined Galatasaray on a one-year loan deal for an initial fee of €1m. The Turkish champions also have the option to buy the player next summer for €16m. Historically he tends to feature on average about 25 times a season for his club, So with Galatasary having Turkish league and cup, plus at least 6 champions league games this season he should make about 50% of their games. Will this be enough to convince them to shell out €16m. Unlikely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 For all the rights and wrongs of Leminas performances and transfer, it does now seem very odd that we let Reed go out on loan given our lack of strength in depth in midfield. If Smallbone or Slattery we're thought highly enough of to be better back-up options than Reed, stranger still that neither featured in the Fulham squad, especially with PEH playing left back! Yes. At some point this season we will end up fielding a central midfield of Stephens and JWP, or something equally horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 As I’ve said before, he's flawed. He'll never make it at the top level. He’s never made it at any of the clubs he’s been at. Talented, yes, but not the right mind-set or attitude. He'll just meander between different clubs for the remainder of his career before calling it a day on his career quite early on I'd imagine. Then he can bask in the $$$ whilst he laps up his Instagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 3 September, 2019 Share Posted 3 September, 2019 Now you're just being a tool, as you probably know. Aside from the fact he was only ever bought to support the u21 team, if he was here Rose would be (at best) 4th choice. He has played 9 league 2 games in his career, and none for 3 seasons. Reed has 102 appearances, 17 in the premier league, the rest in the championship, 72 in the last two seasons. Plus 16 England youth caps. You're talking about a non entity, I'm talking about a viable option. The obvious issue is that in a months time when romeu picks up his 5th booking and PEH gets sent off in the same game, we start the next match with a midfield of...??? We are extremely thin on the ground in midfield, yes, probably thinner than Fulham. We're ok for goalkeepers, though. Probably better than walsall. Agree with all this (except maybe with Faz being a tool, seems alright to me). We are frighteningly under resourced in midfield, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 1 October, 2019 Share Posted 1 October, 2019 Big match tonight at home to PSG and he's not in the squad. Presumably injured once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 October, 2019 Share Posted 1 October, 2019 Big match tonight at home to PSG and he's not in the squad. Presumably injured once again. Probably doesn't want to get himself cup tied for that big move to Real in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 21 November, 2019 Share Posted 21 November, 2019 Knee ligament injury https://readsouthampton.com/2019/11/20/lemina-suffers-knee-ligament-injury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 November, 2019 Share Posted 21 November, 2019 Knee ligament injury https://readsouthampton.com/2019/11/20/lemina-suffers-knee-ligament-injury/ Tremendous signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 Tremendous signing. If fit, he would walk straight into our midfield. He’s totally lost his way mentally but on his day, he is a class act. Shame as we could have done with him back. He could have made all the difference, combined with a CB and full back in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 #gashlikeleminade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 Reading between the lines seems that Galatasaray are rubbing their hands together at Leminas injury and a perfect excuse to get him out of their club. They have obviously found him out to be a total waste of talent - everyone use to joke about Mane going on a winter performance sojourn when with us - Lemina if you look at his record has made it a career trait everywhere he has been. Those still holding a candle to him to be the saviour of our midfield forget it - the bloke has no spine for a fight - anyone who witnessed the 10 minutes he took to change his football boots mid way through the game up at Wolves will have spotted that the bloke is a total wastrel. Sorry the bloke is as useless a signing as Carillo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 Reading between the lines seems that Galatasaray are rubbing their hands together at Leminas injury and a perfect excuse to get him out of their club. They have obviously found him out to be a total waste of talent - everyone use to joke about Mane going on a winter performance sojourn when with us - Lemina if you look at his record has made it a career trait everywhere he has been. Those still holding a candle to him to be the saviour of our midfield forget it - the bloke has no spine for a fight - anyone who witnessed the 10 minutes he took to change his football boots mid way through the game up at Wolves will have spotted that the bloke is a total wastrel. Sorry the bloke is as useless a signing as Carillo. He is the new Carlos Kaiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 November, 2019 Share Posted 22 November, 2019 Knee ligament injury https://readsouthampton.com/2019/11/20/lemina-suffers-knee-ligament-injury/ That article is hilarious. Such blatant click bait. It says he has a knee ligament injury, and then says getting him back could be a blessing in disguise as he can make a difference to the first team. I know we're bad, but a lazy injured midfielder with no knee ligaments that can't run (and can barely control or pass the football lets be honest) is not the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-ready-offer-e8m-southampton-player-half-agreed-fee/ If they take all his wages on, I’d probably take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 Take what we can and get him out. Wages like that are holding us back a lot. We need to do better in our character assessments that's for sure. Reminds me of Osvaldo, although maybe not quite as bad. Both talented players with big club experience but just no where near enough interest in football, and egos destroying their careers. Lemina with discipline and any fitness would be a Champions League level midfielder. Instead I doubt he'll ever do much in the game now, just a poundland Pogba. Agreed. Lemina represents the wave of recent Saints signings who saw us as a stepping stone after a season or two, but who forgot they actually needed to be good in order to get the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 Take what we can and get him out. Wages like that are holding us back a lot. We need to do better in our character assessments that's for sure. Reminds me of Osvaldo, although maybe not quite as bad. Both talented players with big club experience but just no where near enough interest in football, and egos destroying their careers. Lemina with discipline and any fitness would be a Champions League level midfielder. Instead I doubt he'll ever do much in the game now, just a poundland Pogba. Agree with all of that. In patches he's looked brilliant, and could have been a massive player for us. Instead he was a helmet, and that performance in the fa cup semi was spectacularly bad. Bin him off and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 According to Transfermrkt, he cost us £15.53m. IIRC it was a 4 year contract, so he has 18 months left. I'd take €8m, as not looking to make a profit, just shift on a signing that hasn't worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 If we could get £10m for him, I think I'd take it. €8m seems a bit of an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 Agree with all of that. In patches he's looked brilliant, and could have been a massive player for us. Instead he was a helmet, and that performance in the fa cup semi was spectacularly bad. Bin him off and move on. Sure, Lemina is a bit flashy, but the comparison with a violent nutter like Osvaldo is way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 27 January, 2020 Share Posted 27 January, 2020 Anyone following him on Twitter will know that he doesn't appear to have any self-belief or confidence issues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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