Greenridge Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Probably rules out Monaco as an option... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9816396/tiemoue-bakayoko-chelsea-monaco-loan-31-8m-option/ And Arsenals’ Elneny is seemingly on his way to Besiktas so that option might be gone too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 And Arsenals’ Elneny is seemingly on his way to Besiktas so that option might be gone too. Seems to be glut of DMs that no one seems to want overmuch. Then again as long as the French Club Academies keep turning out 20 or so new ones every season you can understand why really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 (edited) Deleted. Double post. Edited 30 August, 2019 by Greenridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Re-integrate him. Agreed absolutely this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWSaintDaz Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 When and how did he do that? You must of missed his quotes in this report https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17760597.mario-lemina-opened-move-away-southampton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 You must of missed his quotes in this report https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17760597.mario-lemina-opened-move-away-southampton/ Yeah I did. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Never seems to stay anywhere for very long, think we're his 4th professional club at the age of 26 (well 26 next week anyway). Obviously loking for something that he'll probably not achieve. Probably needs to knuckle down and accept a bit less lofty goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Re-integrate him. Yep, no brainer. He needs to be in the shop window, we need quality in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 August, 2019 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Seems bigger clubs have been interested but have not met our valuation. Danger now is that clubs may come in but lemina may decide that as we blocked moves to big clubs he will stitch us up and sit tight on his big wages here. I still think he's one of our best players, shame that we've not been able to come to a compromise. Get him playing again for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Seems bigger clubs have been interested but have not met our valuation. Danger now is that clubs may come in but lemina may decide that as we blocked moves to big clubs he will stitch us up and sit tight on his big wages here. I still think he's one of our best players, shame that we've not been able to come to a compromise. Get him playing again for us. He's not a sufficiently big player to do a VVD and sit back pending the next window, he needs to put himself in the window. Whether his ego allows him to understand that is another matter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Yep, no brainer. He needs to be in the shop window, we need quality in midfield. yep and as he’s being paid a huge salary he might as well earn it, at least until 1 January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 yep and as he’s being paid a huge salary he might as well earn it, at least until 1 January His case is different to Austin, Carrillo, Forster. All these players even if they trained normally with us, would never get a game. Lemina on the other hand can at the very least contribute in the squad. We are light in center mid, it is an absolute no brainer for me to get him involved again. But before doing that, you need to see in what state of mind he is in. This is where man mangement skills Ralph can do something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 yep and as he’s being paid a huge salary he might as well earn it, at least until 1 JanuaryStats may prove me wrong (?), but when we played the same card with Van Dijk he (indirectly) refused to play ball...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charminster Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Stats may prove me wrong (?), but when we played the same card with Van Dijk he (indirectly) refused to play ball...? Difference is clubs were genuinely interested in Van Dijk, the same can’t be said of Lemina! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Re-integrate him. I think your desperation for a decent midfielder is clouding your judgment/memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Stats may prove me wrong (?), but when we played the same card with Van Dijk he (indirectly) refused to play ball...? You're comparing a peach with a cabbage mate. Vvd was massively in demand and sulked until he got the move he had lined up. Lemina seemingly has nothing lined up so has to put himself on display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 If he was set on staying for only 2 years to the point of refusing to play or even train properly, he should have stuck to his guns in negotiations and said he only wanted a 2 year contract. We would have walked away from the deal, but at least then we would have "stuck to what was agreed", as he says in his own words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 I think your desperation for a decent midfielder is clouding your judgment/memory. It really isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 yep and as he’s being paid a huge salary he might as well earn it, at least until 1 January Why would we be paying him if he says he doesn’t want to play for us any more??? I would have thought we will be saying to him you have until the of the European transfer window to find a club or you are leaving anyway as we will not pay you after that date. The contract should say that if you refuse to play we refuse pay, we retain your contract though mate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 Why would we be paying him if he says he doesn’t want to play for us any more??? I would have thought we will be saying to him you have until the of the European transfer window to find a club or you are leaving anyway as we will not pay you after that date. The contract should say that if you refuse to play we refuse pay, we retain your contract though mate... Who says he's refusing to play?! I get that he wants a move, but that's completely different to going on strike. If you're suggesting that because you believe he's on strike that we should just bin him off, that's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 I thought it was he that said in the Press he was leaving and that he had no intention (Or never had intention) of staying All the stuff in newspapers has been put there by Saints, all made up. Lemina only has the hump because he is being publically forced out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 All the stuff in newspapers has been put there by Saints, all made up. Lemina only has the hump because he is being publically forced out the door. Not saying I don’t believe you, but how do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 Not saying I don’t believe you, but how do you know this? We are pretty decent at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 August, 2019 Author Share Posted 30 August, 2019 We are pretty decent at it Under Reed maybe. But hoping club has changed its ways now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 Under Reed maybe. But hoping club has changed its ways now? Sibley the snake has come a long way since being nik nak’s teaboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 30 August, 2019 Share Posted 30 August, 2019 Sibley the snake has come a long way since being nik nak’s teaboy. There aren’t many journalists brave enough to ask the probing question “tell us how impressed you are by the facilities at Staplewood”. He’s the next Paxman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 31 August, 2019 Share Posted 31 August, 2019 All the stuff in newspapers has been put there by Saints, all made up. Lemina only has the hump because he is being publically forced out the door. Even the direct quotes from the player saying he had made the decision to leave and "there is no turning back" ? I don't believe even the Daily Mail would sink so low as to print a completely made up quote like that, let alone the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 31 August, 2019 Share Posted 31 August, 2019 All the stuff in newspapers has been put there by Saints, all made up. Lemina only has the hump because he is being publically forced out the door. That’s rubbish lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 September, 2019 Share Posted 1 September, 2019 Galatasaray loan Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 September, 2019 Share Posted 1 September, 2019 (edited) Galatasaray loan Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I KNOW WHAT I CAN REACH AND I WILL FIGHT FOR IT #TonicLikeLeminade Not sure the two go together but reap what you sow and all that. Edited 1 September, 2019 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 1 September, 2019 Share Posted 1 September, 2019 (edited) Think the Leminade went a bit flat if Gala is where he's off to. TBH he should have known that Juve > Saints is hardly moving your career forward, so Gala rather than Man Utd is a natural progression (not wanting to put Gala down, its more on the wages front I refer to). Edited 1 September, 2019 by angelman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 1 September, 2019 Share Posted 1 September, 2019 Have to feel that overall the only winners would be Galatasaray rather than Lemina and certainly not Saints. Shame its ended like this, as talent wise he should be a starter in our team rather than loaned out for little financial benefit. This scenario a year ago would have been laughed at. Shows how quickly things change in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 All the stuff in newspapers has been put there by Saints, all made up. Lemina only has the hump because he is being publically forced out the door. Does the club run his official twitter account as well? Be amazed if that’s in his contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 (edited) Was in Istanbul last night according to Turkish journos Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 2 September, 2019 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 We are pretty decent at it Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Galatasaray loan Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkChampions League club, probably with enough money to buy him if he goes well - not the worst deal in the world. Wish the midfield options we're left with weren't so threadbare, though. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Have to feel that overall the only winners would be Galatasaray rather than Lemina and certainly not Saints. Shame its ended like this, as talent wise he should be a starter in our team rather than loaned out for little financial benefit. This scenario a year ago would have been laughed at. Shows how quickly things change in football. I agree. I remember his debut at Palace and then compare it to his display at West Ham at the end of last season.Something went very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 You watch him turn down Galatasary can feel it in my bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Ooh crikey it seems he did want out after all. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Has he gone yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 I don’t really understand his logic here- because surely he cannot expect to be in the shop window for the bigger clubs by plying his trade in Turkey as opposed to us?!?! I rate him that much that I think he would get a good amount of minutes here- and tbh even if PEH is captain I think a Lemina at his best is better than the PEH equivalent. If he went Roma or any other top club within the top 4/5 leagues, fair enough. I can only think that with 2 years left on his contract next summer he will think it will be easier to leave- well it doesn’t matter what happens but I would like to think we would still want at least £18m next summer (which I still think is cheap), and clearly that valuation was still not met by anyone else this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 I don’t really understand his logic here- because surely he cannot expect to be in the shop window for the bigger clubs by plying his trade in Turkey as opposed to us?!?! I rate him that much that I think he would get a good amount of minutes here- and tbh even if PEH is captain I think a Lemina at his best is better than the PEH equivalent. If he went Roma or any other top club within the top 4/5 leagues, fair enough. I can only think that with 2 years left on his contract next summer he will think it will be easier to leave- well it doesn’t matter what happens but I would like to think we would still want at least £18m next summer (which I still think is cheap), and clearly that valuation was still not met by anyone else this summer. Do well in the Champions League and that will be good exposure for him. Seems to have proper thrown his toys out of the pram with us...he barely put any effort in even when he DID want to play for us. Never forgave him for that horrendous display in the semi-final against Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Of all the players potentially going out on loan or being sold (!!!!!), Boufal was my number 1 to be "rehabilitated" and Lemina was number 2. Boufal seems to be doing OK so far, and maybe if no one takes him, Lemina can be reintegrated. Bit of humble pie, and the merest bit of egg on face, and that's about it. No bridges burned. Not hugely complicated and all will be forgotten in a week or two, esp if he puts in a shift. So if he's still here, its not a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Do well in the Champions League and that will be good exposure for him. Seems to have proper thrown his toys out of the pram with us...he barely put any effort in even when he DID want to play for us. Never forgave him for that horrendous display in the semi-final against Chelsea. In a group with PSG and Real Madrid, good luck to him (even if both has some internal turmoil) Of all the players potentially going out on loan or being sold (!!!!!), Boufal was my number 1 to be "rehabilitated" and Lemina was number 2. Boufal seems to be doing OK so far, and maybe if no one takes him, Lemina can be reintegrated. Bit of humble pie, and the merest bit of egg on face, and that's about it. No bridges burned. Not hugely complicated and all will be forgotten in a week or two, esp if he puts in a shift. So if he's still here, its not a disaster. Yeah pretty much this too- he is good friends with Ings and Valery based off Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 In a group with PSG and Real Madrid, good luck to him (even if both has some internal turmoil) Yeah pretty much this too- he is good friends with Ings and Valery based off Instagram Oh I agree, but the guy clearly has a hugely inflated opinion of himself so thinks he'll go there, dominate the games against PSG and Real and then be top of their shopping lists for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 Not often I feel there's a lose-lose-lose situation but this is probably it. By all accounts Ralph appears a very reasonable man so can only assume Lemina could not be persuaded to stay. Galatasary likely gainers if he tries to prove himself on Champions league stage...but then, he's still a Saints player so even if he is outstanding we'll make him unaffordable for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 2 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 2 September, 2019 We have supposedly priced him out of the moves he wanted, so suspect if he does go to Turkey it's simply to play football, not to help us. Feel we've played this one poorly, some lessons learned I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 We have supposedly priced him out of the moves he wanted, so suspect if he does go to Turkey it's simply to play football, not to help us. Feel we've played this one poorly, some lessons learned I hope Poor effort Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 If players accept high wages after a high transfer, then they have to accept that we want to recoup some of it, so stow the "priced him out of a move" bollix please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 September, 2019 Share Posted 2 September, 2019 If players accept high wages after a high transfer, then they have to accept that we want to recoup some of it, so stow the "priced him out of a move" bollix please. He is having a bad day and trying too hard. Agree totally if we had let him go cheaply he would have been first one to complain where does it say we should let him go and not get a good deal for us? Lemina is a good player but lacks the personality and brain to make the most of that ability as proven by his past. Good luck to him no malice just a shame as when he wanted to he was very good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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