qwertyell Posted 20 August, 2019 Share Posted 20 August, 2019 Battling relegation in the Premier League to... Battling relegation in Ligue 1 in a stadium of 18,000. Not quite the sporting step-up I imagine his ego was thinking of.They won the league two years ago and reached the champions league semi finals. Don't let a season in the doldrums detract from the fact that they're one of the best clubs in France who'll be back competing at the top soon enough. Quite a nice place to live, I presume, too. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Talk of a loan with 20m euro obligation to buy. I m ok with that because it relieves the wage bill and will allow us to streghen in Jan or next summer. Sell Carrillo on permanent too and we are laughing! And by the time that obligation to pay comes around we'll be on parity with the Euro anyway, so it'll be £20m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 (edited) Obligation to buy supposedly...Should be finalised within 48 hours. Edited 21 August, 2019 by Saint Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Option to buy .... according to BBC Gossip page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 And by the time that obligation to pay comes around we'll be on parity with the Euro anyway, so it'll be £20m. Finally some Brexit positives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Option to buy .... according to BBC Gossip page. That's the same RMC story. The gossip page is just links, no original reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Currently in Monaco. Apparently Marcus Barnes also to join on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Currently in Monaco. Apparently Marcus Barnes also to join on loan. Monaco?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Monaco?! Exactly what I thought. Look at my past posts, I can be sceptical but then yeah, a la Josh Sims. We'll see what happens. Boufal wants to go to Nice, again, we'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Exactly what I thought. Look at my past posts, I can be sceptical but then yeah, a la Josh Sims. We'll see what happens. Boufal wants to go to Nice, again, we'll see what happens. Well he’s just put to bed what you were saying about Nice!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 21 August, 2019 Share Posted 21 August, 2019 Exactly what I thought. Look at my past posts, I can be sceptical but then yeah, a la Josh Sims. We'll see what happens. Boufal wants to go to Nice, again, we'll see what happens. Talking of Nice, Sir Jim Ratcliffe completed the takeover of OGC Nice today. Shame he didn’t buy us Saints as he could attend a match and drive home within 30 minutes to his home in The New Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Talking of Nice, Sir Jim Ratcliffe completed the takeover of OGC Nice today. Shame he didn’t buy us Saints as he could attend a match and drive home within 30 minutes to his home in The New Forest. Nice is even closer to his home in Monaco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Talking of Nice, Sir Jim Ratcliffe completed the takeover of OGC Nice today. Shame he didn’t buy us Saints as he could attend a match and drive home within 30 minutes to his home in The New Forest. Perhaps he thinks £90m is better value than the £250m it would cost to buy Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Nice is even closer to his home in Monaco. And a much nicer part of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Perhaps he thinks £90m is better value than the £250m it would cost to buy Saints? 250m is also 80% of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 And a much nicer part of the world. Bollux is it. I'll have you know that Chairman Mao is going to retire to Hedge End. He said it at the Fan's Forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Bollux is it. I'll have you know that Chairman Mao is going to retire to Hedge End. He said it at the Fan's Forum.... TBF, they have got a decent sized Sainsbury's and a Cotswold Outdoor store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Perhaps he thinks £90m is better value than the £250m it would cost to buy Saints? He could have picked it up for £13m when Markus did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Blackmore is saying there are two other club options in addition to Monaco for Lemina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Blackmore is saying there are two other club options in addition to Monaco for Lemina. Celta Vigo & Roma have been mentioned before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Celta Vigo & Roma have been mentioned before. Echo saying Roma & Lyon interested... Monaco only want an obligation to buy if they finish at a certain level in the table. https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17854841.southampton-midfielder-mario-lemina-looking-new-club/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Echo saying Roma & Lyon interested... Monaco only want an obligation to buy if they finish at a certain level in the table. https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17854841.southampton-midfielder-mario-lemina-looking-new-club/ Roma maybe, don't see the OL being in anyway interested in Lemina though, their poor relations down the road at St Etienne perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Talking of Nice, Sir Jim Ratcliffe completed the takeover of OGC Nice today. Shame he didn’t buy us Saints as he could attend a match and drive home within 30 minutes to his home in The New Forest. Was thinking this yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Well he’s just put to bed what you were saying about Nice!!! How many former Saints players have spoken and then left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 I know Lemina wants to leave and it reduces some big wages - but does anybody else think that'll leave us a little light in midfield and short on quality there. PEH, Ward-Prowse, and Romeu. Then arguable Slattery and Armstrong as more attacking central options. PEH is just as inconsistent as Lemina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 You forgot Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Adrien Silva (Leicester) flying in for Monaco medical to join on loan. Wonder how that effects the #TonicLikeLeminade deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 25 August, 2019 Share Posted 25 August, 2019 Unpopular opinion on here: how about we tell Lemina to stick it a move and tell him to play out of his skin for the season. We would add much needed depth in center midfield. We also just loaned out forster and with El Younoussi and Carrillo also set to leave, do we really need to save those wages to the point of being weak in center mid? We hold all the cards not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 25 August, 2019 Share Posted 25 August, 2019 Unpopular opinion on here: how about we tell Lemina to stick it a move and tell him to play out of his skin for the season. We would add much needed depth in center midfield. We also just loaned out forster and with El Younoussi and Carrillo also set to leave, do we really need to save those wages to the point of being weak in center mid? We hold all the cards not him.Hasn't he refused to play for us again though? I know RH doesn't like his attitude at all so it's doubtful that will change Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 25 August, 2019 Share Posted 25 August, 2019 Hasn't he refused to play for us again though? I know RH doesn't like his attitude at all so it's doubtful that will change Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk No, he just said that when he signed it was agreed that he would move after 2 seasons. It's not his attitude to work in training that is the problem, it is his commitment to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 25 August, 2019 Share Posted 25 August, 2019 His instagram story yesterday showed him watching our game with caption something like 'come on boys' - I don't think he's played his last game in a Saints shirt, I think he'll be reintegrated into the team personally, and we could probably do with it. Lemina at 100% is a great asset to a team of our ability, just that we haven't seen it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 August, 2019 Share Posted 25 August, 2019 His instagram story yesterday showed him watching our game with caption something like 'come on boys' - I don't think he's played his last game in a Saints shirt, I think he'll be reintegrated into the team personally, and we could probably do with it. Lemina at 100% is a great asset to a team of our ability, just that we haven't seen it enough. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 25 August, 2019 Share Posted 25 August, 2019 His instagram story yesterday showed him watching our game with caption something like 'come on boys' - I don't think he's played his last game in a Saints shirt, I think he'll be reintegrated into the team personally, and we could probably do with it. Lemina at 100% is a great asset to a team of our ability, just that we haven't seen it enough. Can see this happening now Forster our and Moi/Carrillo about to be. Lemina can’t get a move he wants and we are light in CM. If he actually shows up and puts a few games together he would hotter property and nearer the top of January shortlists. Let’s face it, the CM area needs the mobility that the the rest of the squad has had added. JWP and PEH haven’t got going yet this year, Romeu does a decent job but is never going to be box to box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 August, 2019 Share Posted 25 August, 2019 It’s bad enough when players who’ve performed demand moves. But when a bloke who has had a couple of good games, but mainly done **** all does it, it grates. Shame senior pros don’t chin ******s in the modern game. Someone needs to give him a right hook. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 August, 2019 Share Posted 28 August, 2019 http://sportwitness.co.uk/director-flying-england-week-southampton-player-offer-accepted/ Sounds like he's off to Besiktas. Hardly the dream move that he thought he was worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 http://sportwitness.co.uk/director-flying-england-week-southampton-player-offer-accepted/ Sounds like he's off to Besiktas. Hardly the dream move that he thought he was worth... "Due to his issues with the Saints manager Ralph Hassenhüttl, Lemina hasn’t played for the Saints so far this season and an exit seems inevitable at this stage."... what are these "issues" he has with RH that they're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Exactly, what are these issues?? It seems (which of course could be totally wrong), he had too much Leminade one night and said that he'd done his 2 years and wanted to leave and move onwards & upwards, to which the club/manager seems to have acquiesced to (provided that it was at the right price - which is only fair given the outlay to acquire and keep him). That no one "upwards" wanted him, as the fault of his ego. I don't know, maybe clubs see this behaviour from a player who has hardly set the world on fire, and say "nah, too much hassle unless it's dirt cheap" which financially SFC cannot really accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Exactly, what are these issues?? It seems (which of course could be totally wrong), he had too much Leminade one night and said that he'd done his 2 years and wanted to leave and move onwards & upwards, to which the club/manager seems to have acquiesced to (provided that it was at the right price - which is only fair given the outlay to acquire and keep him). That no one "upwards" wanted him, as the fault of his ego. I don't know, maybe clubs see this behaviour from a player who has hardly set the world on fire, and say "nah, too much hassle unless it's dirt cheap" which financially SFC cannot really accept.When clubs know he is unwanted and not even training with the squad, it puts them firmly in the driving seat. Saints want a perm deal. Clubs know we just want to get rid of him, so know in the end we will accept a ****y loan. Incoming: ****y loan. Ditto: Elyounoussi, Carrillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 It's kind of backfired on him hasn't it. He clearly thought he would be in much greater demand, but the lack of interest from the bigger clubs he was hoping to impress speaks volumes. It's been reported that he was told we would let him leave after two years, but I rather suspect it was more a case of "if you perform well and a big club comes in for you then after two years we won't stand in your way", rather than giving him any cast iron promises of any move at that time. The way I see it, he now has two options. He can either cut his losses and accept a sideways (at best) move to a club like Besiktas, provided the club accept their offer of course, or he can buckle down and put in the required effort this season with us to earn a much more glamorous and lucrative offer next summer. Personally, I think he would be stupid to do anything other than the latter. Given his obvious talent and our lack of quality and depth in his position, it really wouldn't take much for him to force his way into our first team and become a regular starter. And if he can do that, and make his good performances the norm rather than the exception, then he will have a glut of offers much better than Besiktas come the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 When clubs know he is unwanted and not even training with the squad, it puts them firmly in the driving seat. Saints want a perm deal. Clubs know we just want to get rid of him, so know in the end we will accept a ****y loan. Incoming: ****y loan. Ditto: Elyounoussi, Carrillo Yes, but the player also has to agree to it. So he might not fancy, for example, some Russian or Turkish club. Given that he is overly ambitious, maybe this too is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 No interest in him yet according to Ralph in the press conference, although still hopeful a deal will materialise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Probably rules out Monaco as an option... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9816396/tiemoue-bakayoko-chelsea-monaco-loan-31-8m-option/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWSaintDaz Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 just wish he'd p1ss off now, we only want players who want to play for Saints and this fool was badly advised by his greedy agent, has burn't his bridges and any respect he had from the fans clear off Mario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Probably rules out Monaco as an option... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9816396/tiemoue-bakayoko-chelsea-monaco-loan-31-8m-option/ Probably, then again Lemina is not a particularly desirable acquisiton and we're probably asking for too much. Chelsea will no doubt be subsidising Bakayoko and Monaco won't buy him at the end of his loan there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Re-integrate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Re-integrate him. Yeah come on Ralph .. give him a hug & tell me everything will be OK !! The player we are desperately missing in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 just wish he'd p1ss off now, we only want players who want to play for Saints and this fool was badly advised by his greedy agent, has burn't his bridges and any respect he had from the fans clear off Mario When and how did he do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 Re-integrate him. This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 The situation has been handled badly, to publically list players you want 'out' just sees no interest, until the final hours of play and not on the terms you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 29 August, 2019 Share Posted 29 August, 2019 The situation has been handled badly, to publically list players you want 'out' just sees no interest, until the final hours of play and not on the terms you want. I thought it was he that said in the Press he was leaving and that he had no intention (Or never had intention) of staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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