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Paul Chuckle

Paul Chuckle

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It looks as though Jack Cork is moving to Burnley for £11million.

 

Anyone know if we had a sell on fee when we sold him?

 

Not that 10 or 20% of that will buy you anything in the current ridiculous transfer market

Mowgli

Mowgli

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Jrod £15m too

again, just shows what we will generally need to spend to stand still..

 

Has this become the new 'you can't win anything with kids' cliché?

Before we all get carried away taking it as gospel, the correct idium is 'standing still means falling behind'. It has little to do with money (although that may help in certain cases).

Saint86

Saint86

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Has this become the new 'you can't win anything with kids' cliché?

Before we all get carried away taking it as gospel, the correct idium is 'standing still means falling behind'. It has little to do with money (although that may help in certain cases).

 

It almost like fans look at our spend profile since we've been in the prem and think we finished top 8 for the last 4 years (3points off champions league under Koeman) because of our spend.

 

:mcinnes:

Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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It almost like fans look at our spend profile since we've been in the prem and think we finished top 8 for the last 4 years (3points off champions league under Koeman) because of our spend.

 

:mcinnes:

 

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Saint86

Saint86

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Lol. Pretty embarrassing come back Glasgow. Given that it doesn't say which year its for, incorporate wages, nor account for net spend.

 

Why do you humiliate yourself like this? You used to be at least competent at trolling... Now I may as well just ask the local schoolkids on the corner...

Pamplemousse

Pamplemousse

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Lol. Pretty embarrassing come back Glasgow. Given that it doesn't say which year its for, incorporate wages, nor account for net spend.

 

Why do you humiliate yourself like this? You used to be at least competent at trolling... Now I may as well just ask the local schoolkids on the corner...

 

It's a sad decline. He's the Portsmouth of trolls.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only.

 

He's not better than Steve Davis. On a par with Clasie, JWP & PEH & he's older than all of them. I wouldn't swap him for any of our midfield, except Harry R

 

 

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Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only.

 

I would say that's the reality for us now - the replacements since Nicola C and Paul Mitchell moved on have largely been worse.

 

Shaw and Bertrand similar

Clyne better than Cedric

Lallana better than Tadic

Cork better than Hojberg

Schneiderlin better than Clasie

Wanyama better than Romeu

Mane better than Boufal

Pelle better than Austin

Fonte better than Yoshida

 

The list goes on.... VVD better than Toby Alderweireld? Probably, but the replacements and magic black box has been found wanting since Mitchell and Nicola left

saintadam

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When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only.

 

Ha, he wouldn't be on the bench for me. Maybe in the stand next to Reed.

itchen

itchen

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I don't know why I'm bothering but

 

I would say that's the reality for us now - the replacements since Nicola C and Paul Mitchell moved on have largely been worse.

 

Shaw and Bertrand similar - on last season's form, Bertrand better

Clyne better than Cedric - not sure, one of them won the Euros

Lallana better than Tadic - agreed

Cork better than Hojberg - but not better than Davis

Schneiderlin better than Clasie - agreed

Wanyama better than Romeu - nope

Mane better than Boufal - So far, but they're not like for like

Pelle better than Austin - have you forgotten Gabbiadini?

Fonte better than Yoshida - frankly, on last season, this is no longer true

 

The list goes on.... VVD better than Toby Alderweireld? Probably, but the replacements and magic black box has been found wanting since Mitchell and Nicola left

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Saint86

Saint86

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Just been called up to the england squad. Very pleased for him.

 

Another one we let go at the expense of big egos with no loyalty. Club strat seriously needs a looking into.

Suhari

Suhari

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Just been called up to the england squad. Very pleased for him.

 

Another one we let go at the expense of big egos with no loyalty. Club strat seriously needs a looking into.

 

Think he was third choice behind Morgan and Big Vic when he left.

 

If I recall he went to Swansea for first team football, which we couldn't guarantee (given who we had as first teamers).

 

Not sure egos and strategy came into it!

 

Edit: personally I wish he was still a Saint.

Saint IQ

Saint IQ

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Think he was third choice behind Morgan and Big Vic when he left.

 

If I recall he went to Swansea for first team football, which we couldn't guarantee (given who we had as first teamers).

 

Not sure egos and strategy came into it!

 

Edit: personally I wish he was still a Saint.

 

It does when everyone knew Morgan and Wanyama were off within 18 months.

krissyboy31

krissyboy31

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Very pleased for him. Never quite sure why he hasn't been called up before now to be honest.

 

Certainly when you see the likes of Jake bloody Livermore playing! Good player, hope he does well!

austsaint

austsaint

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Could have still done a job for us - sitting alongside Romeu at DM, freeing Lemina to play further upfield.

 

He could. Was it Koeman or Pochettino who froze him out of things somewhat. It didn't help Cork's chances that Vic and Morgan were here and he was probably a "victim" of the belief that JWP was going to be the next big thing in midfield at the time.

The9

The9

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When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only.

 

Lol, no, Cork still wouldn't get in the starting side even now without an injury to Lemina, Romeu or Davis.

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Very pleased for him. Never quite sure why he hasn't been called up before now to be honest.

 

Because he hasnt actually been that good, he was pretty average for Burnley against us the other day.

I hope people dont try and use this as "proof" that Burnley have somehow gone ahead of us...how many midfielders have dropped out for this to happen?

Batman

Batman

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Because he hasnt actually been that good, he was pretty average for Burnley against us the other day.

I hope people dont try and use this as "proof" that Burnley have somehow gone ahead of us...how many midfielders have dropped out for this to happen?

 

burnley have got ahead of us. we are terrible whilst, they are fairly decent with a pretty inferior side

shurlock

shurlock

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Because he hasnt actually been that good, he was pretty average for Burnley against us the other day.

I hope people dont try and use this as "proof" that Burnley have somehow gone ahead of us...how many midfielders have dropped out for this to happen?

 

Still not got over your Clasie love-affair?

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

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While some on here praise Burnley highly and they have done ok tbf, would they admit that they would moan like schoolkids if we played the tactics that Dyche employed Saturday

 

Unless its all about results.... ;)

shurlock

shurlock

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Only Reed could sell an England International for 500k and then pay £13.5m for Jordy Clasie :mcinnes:

 

The list of incompetencies grows by the day

 

Closer to £8m pal.

norwaysaint

norwaysaint

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Cork was always good for us, didn't he play every match in our promotion season from the championship? I think we would have happily kept him, but his chances were limited by having Morgan, Wanyama and Davis all deserving their places. It was smart for him to move on. The Cork and Schneiderlin pairing was one of the best we've ever had in midfield.

Saint86

Saint86

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It does when everyone knew Morgan and Wanyama were off within 18 months.

 

This was the point i was trying to make. Cork wanted to be here but the club bowed down to two players that didn't and which we were on the verge of selling anyway. Should have kept cork and moved on the other two.

 

Short sighted strat which has left us with a team lacking fight and with only a smattering of loyal club men in the team.

Saint86

Saint86

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Only Reed could sell an England International for 500k and then pay £13.5m for Jordy Clasie :mcinnes:

 

The list of incompetencies grows by the day

 

You really don't need to exaggerate the point, most saints fans have clocked on by now.

GGalpin

GGalpin

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Only Reed could sell an England International for 500k and then pay £13.5m for Jordy Clasie :mcinnes:

 

The list of incompetencies grows by the day

 

Cork cost £4m and Clasie £7m. But, you know, agendas.

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