Paul Chuckle Posted 10 July, 2017 Share Posted 10 July, 2017 It looks as though Jack Cork is moving to Burnley for £11million. Anyone know if we had a sell on fee when we sold him? Not that 10 or 20% of that will buy you anything in the current ridiculous transfer market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 10 July, 2017 Share Posted 10 July, 2017 Jack Cork? £11M?! It's gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Jrod £15m too again, just shows what we will generally need to spend to stand still.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Jrod £15m too again, just shows what we will generally need to spend to stand still.. Has this become the new 'you can't win anything with kids' cliché? Before we all get carried away taking it as gospel, the correct idium is 'standing still means falling behind'. It has little to do with money (although that may help in certain cases). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Has this become the new 'you can't win anything with kids' cliché? Before we all get carried away taking it as gospel, the correct idium is 'standing still means falling behind'. It has little to do with money (although that may help in certain cases). It almost like fans look at our spend profile since we've been in the prem and think we finished top 8 for the last 4 years (3points off champions league under Koeman) because of our spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 In this market £11m for Jack is excellent business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 If there was a clause, we will hear about it from the usual places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 It almost like fans look at our spend profile since we've been in the prem and think we finished top 8 for the last 4 years (3points off champions league under Koeman) because of our spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Lol. Pretty embarrassing come back Glasgow. Given that it doesn't say which year its for, incorporate wages, nor account for net spend. Why do you humiliate yourself like this? You used to be at least competent at trolling... Now I may as well just ask the local schoolkids on the corner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 8th in that table for English clubs. 8th in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Jack Cork? £11M?! It's gone mad. These sort of figures makes VVD look undervalued at £75m................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 8th in that table for English clubs. 8th in the Premier League. Exactly and proof you do need to speculate to accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Lol. Pretty embarrassing come back Glasgow. Given that it doesn't say which year its for, incorporate wages, nor account for net spend. Why do you humiliate yourself like this? You used to be at least competent at trolling... Now I may as well just ask the local schoolkids on the corner... It's a sad decline. He's the Portsmouth of trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Why on earth would we have a sell on fee agreed for Jack Cork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Why on earth would we have a sell on fee agreed for Jack Cork? Corkage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 In this market £11m for Jack is excellent business! Agreed. 8m for Clasie or 11m for Cork.. hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Corkage? He's 28. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 Corkage? Very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only. He's not better than Steve Davis. On a par with Clasie, JWP & PEH & he's older than all of them. I wouldn't swap him for any of our midfield, except Harry R Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only. I would say that's the reality for us now - the replacements since Nicola C and Paul Mitchell moved on have largely been worse. Shaw and Bertrand similar Clyne better than Cedric Lallana better than Tadic Cork better than Hojberg Schneiderlin better than Clasie Wanyama better than Romeu Mane better than Boufal Pelle better than Austin Fonte better than Yoshida The list goes on.... VVD better than Toby Alderweireld? Probably, but the replacements and magic black box has been found wanting since Mitchell and Nicola left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only. Ha, he wouldn't be on the bench for me. Maybe in the stand next to Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 11 July, 2017 Share Posted 11 July, 2017 The fact that's he's English probably inflates his value tbh, likewise with J-Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 12 July, 2017 Share Posted 12 July, 2017 I don't know why I'm bothering but I would say that's the reality for us now - the replacements since Nicola C and Paul Mitchell moved on have largely been worse. Shaw and Bertrand similar - on last season's form, Bertrand better Clyne better than Cedric - not sure, one of them won the Euros Lallana better than Tadic - agreed Cork better than Hojberg - but not better than Davis Schneiderlin better than Clasie - agreed Wanyama better than Romeu - nope Mane better than Boufal - So far, but they're not like for like Pelle better than Austin - have you forgotten Gabbiadini? Fonte better than Yoshida - frankly, on last season, this is no longer true The list goes on.... VVD better than Toby Alderweireld? Probably, but the replacements and magic black box has been found wanting since Mitchell and Nicola left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Just been called up to the england squad. Very pleased for him. Another one we let go at the expense of big egos with no loyalty. Club strat seriously needs a looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Just been called up to the england squad. Very pleased for him. Another one we let go at the expense of big egos with no loyalty. Club strat seriously needs a looking into. Think he was third choice behind Morgan and Big Vic when he left. If I recall he went to Swansea for first team football, which we couldn't guarantee (given who we had as first teamers). Not sure egos and strategy came into it! Edit: personally I wish he was still a Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Think he was third choice behind Morgan and Big Vic when he left. If I recall he went to Swansea for first team football, which we couldn't guarantee (given who we had as first teamers). Not sure egos and strategy came into it! Edit: personally I wish he was still a Saint. It does when everyone knew Morgan and Wanyama were off within 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Could have still done a job for us - sitting alongside Romeu at DM, freeing Lemina to play further upfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Is this proof we've stalled and been surpassed in stature by the likes of Burnley? Or have we just regressed in international quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 better than Clasie, that is for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 How bad has our England team become? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Very pleased for him. Never quite sure why he hasn't been called up before now to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Very pleased for him. Never quite sure why he hasn't been called up before now to be honest. Certainly when you see the likes of Jake bloody Livermore playing! Good player, hope he does well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Could have still done a job for us - sitting alongside Romeu at DM, freeing Lemina to play further upfield. He could. Was it Koeman or Pochettino who froze him out of things somewhat. It didn't help Cork's chances that Vic and Morgan were here and he was probably a "victim" of the belief that JWP was going to be the next big thing in midfield at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 When you compare cork with our existing squad, Cork is better than any of our midfielders except Romeu only. Lol, no, Cork still wouldn't get in the starting side even now without an injury to Lemina, Romeu or Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 7 November, 2017 Share Posted 7 November, 2017 Impressive that Southampton are on that list. At this rate Saints will be in any European super league........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Very pleased for him. Never quite sure why he hasn't been called up before now to be honest. Because he hasnt actually been that good, he was pretty average for Burnley against us the other day. I hope people dont try and use this as "proof" that Burnley have somehow gone ahead of us...how many midfielders have dropped out for this to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Because he hasnt actually been that good, he was pretty average for Burnley against us the other day. I hope people dont try and use this as "proof" that Burnley have somehow gone ahead of us...how many midfielders have dropped out for this to happen? burnley have got ahead of us. we are terrible whilst, they are fairly decent with a pretty inferior side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 I liked him and if a club could get the same form from him as he had with us I'd say it was a good piece of business. Best of luck Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Because he hasnt actually been that good Since when has that been a requirement for getting called up by England these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Because he hasnt actually been that good, he was pretty average for Burnley against us the other day. I hope people dont try and use this as "proof" that Burnley have somehow gone ahead of us...how many midfielders have dropped out for this to happen? Still not got over your Clasie love-affair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 While some on here praise Burnley highly and they have done ok tbf, would they admit that they would moan like schoolkids if we played the tactics that Dyche employed Saturday Unless its all about results.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Only Reed could sell an England International for 500k and then pay £13.5m for Jordy Clasie The list of incompetencies grows by the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Only Reed could sell an England International for 500k and then pay £13.5m for Jordy Clasie The list of incompetencies grows by the day Closer to £8m pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Cork was always good for us, didn't he play every match in our promotion season from the championship? I think we would have happily kept him, but his chances were limited by having Morgan, Wanyama and Davis all deserving their places. It was smart for him to move on. The Cork and Schneiderlin pairing was one of the best we've ever had in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 It does when everyone knew Morgan and Wanyama were off within 18 months. This was the point i was trying to make. Cork wanted to be here but the club bowed down to two players that didn't and which we were on the verge of selling anyway. Should have kept cork and moved on the other two. Short sighted strat which has left us with a team lacking fight and with only a smattering of loyal club men in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Only Reed could sell an England International for 500k and then pay £13.5m for Jordy Clasie The list of incompetencies grows by the day You really don't need to exaggerate the point, most saints fans have clocked on by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Only Reed could sell an England International for 500k and then pay £13.5m for Jordy Clasie The list of incompetencies grows by the day Cork cost £4m and Clasie £7m. But, you know, agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 November, 2017 Share Posted 8 November, 2017 Cork cost £4m and Clasie £7m. But, you know, agendas. Says 13.5m here buddy https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/southampton-fc/transfers/verein/180/plus/0?saison_id=2015&pos=&detailpos=&w_s= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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