Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 You can make your own mind up as to how solid 'Sky sources' are but potentially some good news: ‘VAN DIJK, SOARES TO STAY’ Sky sources understand Southampton will not sell any of their top players this summer after reassuring new manager Mauricio Pellegrino that the likes of Virgil Van Dijk and Cedric Soares would remain at the club. Van Dijk has been linked with a move to Liverpool, while Soares is rumoured to be attracting the interest of Tottenham and even Barcelona. However, SSNHQ also understands that Spurs have two top targets should Kyle Walker – a target for Man City - leave the club and Soares is not one of them. One is believed to be Porto’s Ricardo Pereira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Depends if we get £75m for VVD.....but yeah, that's unlikely. So they'll all need to knuckle down and carry on in the horrendous boot camp which is Southampton football club. I feel for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 You can make your own mind up as to how solid 'Sky sources' are but potentially some good news: Well good oh, we can close down all the "top player" transfer threads then and just leave the Summer transfer targets thread open.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Great news indeed, just wish I could believe it as clubs are throwing stupid money around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 So anyone who is sold isn't a top player..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 I think Bertrand is a top player myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 What will fatty Samuels write about if we don't sell??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 If we get anything around the value of £70/£75m for VVD we will (rightly, IMO) sell. Still fairly sure that Bertrand will be leaving, unless MP can somehow convince him to stay. I'd consider him a 'top player'. Cedric wasn't happy at the end of the season and he wanted out (I assume all the links have come from his Agent). If that is still the case, or if we would consider selling, I don't know. Other than the above, I can only see us off loading (Sell or Loan) JRod (certainly) and possibly Clasie, Targett, Tadic and Long or Austin (dependent on who we bring in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Also, does anyone get the feeling we're slowly building towards a Les Reed interview? Little bit later this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 I think Bertrand is a top player myself. Yeah, pretty sure he'd be included in that statement. Hopefully. I don't see where he's going to end up anyway, not many clubs available for him south of london (given the work he's just done on his Surrey place, not sure he'd want to ditch that to move north) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Les Reed live on Sky for about five minutes. said little, usual propaganda, strong squad, odd individuals may go suiting both parties, one or two first team players may be bought plus for the future. Puel good guy but needed a change to move forward over the next five years, where the club wanted to be and Pellegrino was the best man to do that. No Pellegrino targets but have taken him through the players that the club have been tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Les Reed live on Sky for about five minutes. said little, usual propaganda, strong squad, odd individuals may go suiting both parties, one or two first team players may be bought plus for the future. Puel good guy but needed a change to move forward over the next five years, where the club wanted to be and Pellegrino was the best man to do that. No Pellegrino targets but have taken him through the players that the club have been tracking. As predicted....didn't think it would be that quick though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Season ticket sales must be low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Les Reed live on Sky for about five minutes. said little, usual propaganda, strong squad, odd individuals may go suiting both parties, one or two first team players may be bought plus for the future. Puel good guy but needed a change to move forward over the next five years, where the club wanted to be and Pellegrino was the best man to do that. No Pellegrino targets but have taken him through the players that the club have been tracking. We can probably expect a major player sale in the next 48hours then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 All the way along since Liebherr took over, despite having the appearance of a selling club, when we've sold, it's been because we thought we could do better with the money rather than keeping the player to make us better on the pitch. There's been a few reasons that have weighed it in favour of selling more often than not, usually down to not having long left on a contract or the player kicking up one heck of a stink, along with a decent amount of money being offered. There have been a few times when keeping the player made sense for us. Wanyama and Schneiderlin being the obvious examples. More often than not we've been right, our squad has been steadily getting stronger. Looks like we're finally seeing a summer where it makes more sense to keep all of our best players than sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 As predicted....didn't think it would be that quick though. The comment about players out was in response to a question about Rodriguez and WBA etc which he didn't comment on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 .......... in other news Pigs are fed and ready for take off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Perhaps they just think £230m of player sales over the last 3 summers is enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 I'd imagine if someone offers us £75 million for Van Dijk he'd go, that is silly money. I'd also reckon we'd be hard pressed to stop Cedric going to Barcelona as well, it's one thing not selling to Liverpool, club in your league, essentially rivals you want to challenge against, it's another not selling to one of the greatest clubs in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 pathing the way for no new players coming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 I'd imagine if someone offers us £75 million for Van Dijk he'd go, that is silly money. I'd also reckon we'd be hard pressed to stop Cedric going to Barcelona as well, it's one thing not selling to Liverpool, club in your league, essentially rivals you want to challenge against, it's another not selling to one of the greatest clubs in the world. I can actually see players being reluctant to move to Spain, at least for a while, until the tax situation there settles down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 pathing the way for no new players coming in What are you basing this ridiculous assumption on? Please tell me a recent summer transfer window when we haven't brought, at least 1, first team player in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/10929681/southampton-to-keep-virgil-van-dijk-and-cedric-soares-after-agreement-with-mauricio-pellegrino Executive director Les Reed told Sky Sports News HQ: "None of those players are for sale. I can't make it any plainer than that and that's the way we mean to go forward. "We built this squad over some time and think we have a strong squad. We will fine-tune it but, other than that, we are looking forward to a very competitive season next year and we plan to go forward on that basis. "There may be players that go on the basis it is the right thing for them and the club at that given time, but we don't expect that to be wholesale and this is simply doing sound business in the transfer window. "We track players over years and when the new manager comes in like Mauricio, we take him through that process. He'd done his homework on our squad and we don't believe we need to turn over players every year just to freshen things up. "We've got a strong squad now and it would be about adding players bringing more value and power. It's not broken so there is no need to bring in players just because of fashion or to get people excited in the transfer market." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Players will leave abd they will say something like "we had no intention of selling players but pellegrino has decided to let some go for squad harmony and to improve the squad." it would be naive to think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 (edited) Players will leave abd they will say something like "we had no intention of selling players but pellegrino has decided to let some go for squad harmony and to improve the squad." it would be naive to think otherwise. "None of these players are for sale" is a VERY different message to the "we don't want to sell any of these players...but" message of previous summers. Though that does sound like he was responding to a list, so I'd like to know who was specifically mentioned. As ever, we'll see what it looks like in September. And FWIW, if we don't sell anyone significant, I'd have us down for a top 4 challenge. As I would have under Puel, FWIW, but no point talking about that any more. Edited 28 June, 2017 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 you always know when Les Reed is lying - his lips move seriously what am i like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 you always know when Les Reed is lying - his lips move seriously what am i like? Here all week, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 It would be great to have just 1 season (well more actually) where we kick on with the squad rather than lose 3/4 main players and have to replace them first. Keep the "top players" and let Jay Rod etc.. leave to allow us to improve the squad. With a new CB our defence is well set, another defensive centre mid to play along side Romeu and a real creative midfielder and we should be set. 2 or 3 first teamers in and Jay Rod, Claise etc.. to go to (part) fund these roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/10929681/southampton-to-keep-virgil-van-dijk-and-cedric-soares-after-agreement-with-mauricio-pellegrino "We've got a strong squad now and it would be about adding players bringing more value and power. It's not broken so there is no need to bring in players just because of fashion or to get people excited in the transfer market." bit worrying I think we have several big areas of weakness in the squad namely central midfield, attacking options and the goal keeper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Absolutely fabulous news, really can't believe so many look at things like this in a negative light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 What will fatty Samuels write about if we don't sell??? It'll be Piegate all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 All the way along since Liebherr took over, despite having the appearance of a selling club, when we've sold, it's been because we thought we could do better with the money rather than keeping the player to make us better on the pitch. There's been a few reasons that have weighed it in favour of selling more often than not, usually down to not having long left on a contract or the player kicking up one heck of a stink, along with a decent amount of money being offered. There have been a few times when keeping the player made sense for us. Wanyama and Schneiderlin being the obvious examples. More often than not we've been right, our squad has been steadily getting stronger. Looks like we're finally seeing a summer where it makes more sense to keep all of our best players than sell. You are just repeating what Ralph Kreuger said a month or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 All the way along since Liebherr took over, despite having the appearance of a selling club, when we've sold, it's been because we thought we could do better with the money rather than keeping the player to make us better on the pitch. There's been a few reasons that have weighed it in favour of selling more often than not, usually down to not having long left on a contract or the player kicking up one heck of a stink, along with a decent amount of money being offered. There have been a few times when keeping the player made sense for us. Wanyama and Schneiderlin being the obvious examples. More often than not we've been right, our squad has been steadily getting stronger. Looks like we're finally seeing a summer where it makes more sense to keep all of our best players than sell. Agree with pretty much all of this. Running a football club of our stature and means is no easy task, all things given, since our return to the Premiership I think we've got it pretty much right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 you always know when Les Reed is lying - his lips move seriously what am i like? Annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Great news! This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 What will fatty Samuels write about if we don't sell??? It'll be something which twists the truth a little like "Saints sell England international Jay Rodriguez just days after pledging not to sell any of their stars", completely overlooking Jay is more of a bit part player for us these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 This who thing has one enormous caveat: If a massive offer comes in, we will sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 You are just repeating what Ralph Kreuger said a month or so ago. I don't know off hand what Kreuger said, but my words have been the same for a while... https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50943-Lovren-joins-Liverpool-Official&p=1992546#post1992546 https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57504-Virgil-Transfer-Rumours-Summer-17&p=2424095#post2424095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 (edited) "We've got a strong squad now and it would be about adding players bringing more value and power. It's not broken so there is no need to bring in players just because of fashion or to get people excited in the transfer market." bit worrying I think we have several big areas of weakness in the squad namely central midfield, attacking options and the goal keeper... It is....when you selectively quote half a sentence. And he's right, it isn't broken. With no sales, you could argue we only *really* need a DM. Replacing Forster is a luxury, not a necessity....not when we have McCarthy too. Usual Les waffle though, which I don't tend to get too invested in these days. Edited 28 June, 2017 by Donatello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 OK, so no "top" players will be leaving, but they haven't mentioned whether any "top top" players will be leaving, or whether any "top top top" players will be leaving. That's what concerns me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 This who thing has one enormous caveat: If a massive offer comes in, we will sell. Well if a 'massive' offer comes in, just about every club will sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10929811/saints-wont-spend-unnecessarily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 The same people complaining that Les Reed wasn't saying anything are now complaining that he is 'lying' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 Well if a 'massive' offer comes in, just about every club will sell. Exactly. Some people forget this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 "there is no need to bring in players" is clearly complete ********. We need a centre back, combative and energetic central midfielder and ideally a decent offensive player to jump above Long and Jay Rod in the pecking order. That's assuming no sales of any key players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 It is....when you selectively quote half a sentence. And he's right, it isn't broken. With no sales, you could argue we only *really* need a DM. Replacing Forster is a luxury, not a necessity....not when we have McCarthy too. Usual Les waffle though, which I don't tend to get too invested in these days. you could but you'd be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 (edited) "there is no need to bring in players" is clearly complete ********. We need a centre back, combative and energetic central midfielder and ideally a decent offensive player to jump above Long and Jay Rod in the pecking order. That's assuming no sales of any key players. ".....just because of fashion/to get people excited" What is it? Read half a sentence day? Edited 28 June, 2017 by Donatello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 The bit in bold says it all,in other words,if the price is right you can have them,same **** different year,Les Reeds annual come and get them plea Executive director Les Reed told Sky Sports News HQ: "None of those players are for sale. I can't make it any plainer than that and that's the way we mean to go forward. "We built this squad over some time and think we have a strong squad. We will fine-tune it but, other than that, we are looking forward to a very competitive season next year and we plan to go forward on that basis. "There may be players that go on the basis it is the right thing for them and the club at that given time, but we don't expect that to be wholesale and this is simply doing sound business in the transfer window. "We track players over years and when the new manager comes in like Mauricio, we take him through that process. He'd done his homework on our squad and we don't believe we need to turn over players every year just to freshen things up. "We've got a strong squad now and it would be about adding players bringing more value and power. It's not broken so there is no need to bring in players just because of fashion or to get people excited in the transfer market." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 28 June, 2017 Share Posted 28 June, 2017 A strong squad based on what though, last season which we arguably underperformed as far as points go. This season should see every team around us improve with the money available and with all 7 teams that finished above us likely to go hell bent on the top four we have to add quality not quantity. Even if the new manager gets us playing in a more Southampton way we could be no better off so we do really need a couple of players who are better than what we already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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