hypochondriac Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Why have they waited so long and wasted so much time? Hope the replacement is in place very quickly, other clubs are already making signings. Almost certainly because they were lining someone else up behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Nobody said the announcement was coming tonight. Shows the club can do business in quiet... things are leaked when they want things to be in the public domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 And then all moan again when they want to up sticks in two years time... Well yes but that's football for you! If we can win a cup at some point then I'll pretty much be satisfied whoever is in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Cheers Claude. Just not right for us, and too much of a risk to go again with him for next season. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Tuchel is top target, nor if we manage to get him. Let's hope this doesn't drag on too long Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 As many of who are aware, I still would have preferred to keep Puel. However, if the club have someone else better lined up, then it's a decision I will support. I think there's only one person who would fit that criteria, and that's Thomas Tuchel. Pellegrini, Sherwood, whoever else available would be a backwards step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Hopefully the new coach in, whoever it is, has a clear out of coaching staff. Agreed they let him down badly and should go. Tactically inept. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN MY DAY Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Good luck to Claude, he's had a raw deal here from the board and the fans. Always felt if he had the time he was here for the long term and stability and now we start all over again. 8th and a cup final with a toothless frontline up till January and a make do centre back pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Can understand him going, just didn't fit and settle for one reason or another, he was a dead man walking and we need a fresh start. Think he got a very unfair deal from the club, not well backed in the transfer market, plus he was unlucky with injuries to key players. Don't think the fans gave hima fair crack at all and some of the reactions, booing etc was well over the top, stupidly, over-entitled and unrealistic morons. Nice high bar for the new chap to aim for, lets see how he gets on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 And then all moan again when they want to up sticks in two years time... I'd rather have 2 years of Poch/Koeman and lose him to Arsenal or Utd, than have another year of Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Sad for Puel, was a long term appointment and 8th and a cup final is far from a disaster despite some poor home performances. If it had to happen then it's good to get it done. However we are gambling and the downsides are significant. Life gets much worse than this as a Saints fan. Finally the club have shown, along with most others, that loyalty is a thing of the past so we should not bleat if a manager or player does well and wants to break their contract and leave early. It cuts both ways..... This. PR machine picks its words carefully...'search for new Management Team' more than suggests Black is out too. I hope they are doing this in the proper order and have lined up Tuchel to take over an empty desk tomorrow. Message is clear - Southampton have ambition, we need to play with panache as well as being seen to be moving forward. We will never know if Puel would have learned from his first season...took Ferguson a bad first season at United before he got it right... Les Reed must take some responsibility for a failed hire...and that will hopefully put even more pressure to break the bank to get a high profile manager like Tuchel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Can understand him going, just didn't fit and settle for one reason or another, he was a dead man walking and we need a fresh start. Think he got a very unfair deal from the club, not well backed in the transfer market, plus he was unlucky with injuries to key players. Don't think the fans gave hima fair crack at all and some of the reactions, booing etc was well over the top, stupidly, over-entitled and unrealistic morons. Nice high bar for the new chap to aim for, lets see how he gets on. How can you say he wasn't backed in the transfer market? Gabbi, Boufal and Hojbjerg were all talented players he has failed to manage correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 In two minds here - half of me says - 8th in Prem, Cup Final, Unforgettable trip to Milan - I'd give him another chance as he can't be so negative next season the other half says - 8th in Prem, Cup Final, Unforgettable trip to Milan, but some of the most negative and dullest football I've seen since the halcyon days of Branfoot - glad to see him go. Hope we bring in someone creative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 How can you say he wasn't backed in the transfer market? Gabbi, Boufal and Hojbjerg were all talented players he has failed to manage correctly. You being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Beating Inter and the highs and lows of that Cup Final will be lifetime family memories so cheers for that Claude and hope your next job works out better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 The writing was on the wall as early as last Autumn for us seasoned observers, as the dreary die was cast. Get Tuchel and a long hot a summer beckons, topped off by endless taunting of gobsmacked Scouse and Arse workmates. Then the excitement of the new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 You being serious? I would assume so. Two of those players broke our transfer record...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 This. PR machine picks its words carefully...'search for new Management Team' more than suggests Black is out too. I hope they are doing this in the proper order and have lined up Tuchel to take over an empty desk tomorrow. Message is clear - Southampton have ambition, we need to play with panache as well as being seen to be moving forward. We will never know if Puel would have learned from his first season...took Ferguson a bad first season at United before he got it right... Les Reed must take some responsibility for a failed hire...and that will hopefully put even more pressure to break the bank to get a high profile manager like Tuchel. I think in time Puel will go on to prove himself. He'll go back to France probably, regain his reputation. Perhaps he'll then end up at a Champions League team, someone like Anderlecht or Basel perhaps. I will wish him well in his future endeavours. Eric Black can go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 In two minds here - half of me says - 8th in Prem, Cup Final, Unforgettable trip to Milan - I'd give him another chance as he can't be so negative next season the other half says - 8th in Prem, Cup Final, Unforgettable trip to Milan, but some of the most negative and dullest football I've seen since the halcyon days of Branfoot - glad to see him go. Hope we bring in someone creative But Puel didn't give you that Unforgettable trip to Milan. Koeman did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I think in time Puel will go on to prove himself. He'll go back to France probably, regain his reputation. Perhaps he'll then end up at a Champions League team, someone like Anderlecht or Basel perhaps. I will wish him well in his future endeavours. Eric Black can go though. Agree with this, he will go on to have a very decent career somewhere else and in a league that is more suited to his style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I would assume so. Two of those players broke our transfer record...! Who replaced Wanyama? Who replaced Fonte? Boufal as a replacement for Mane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydenhamssocks Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Is Black going too? Hes as much to blame for the crap football as Puel. Absolutely correct! Hope he's not going to be a surprise cheap option !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Who replaced Wanyama? Who replaced Fonte? Boufal as a replacement for Mane? Arguably Stephens is now performing better than Fonte prior to his sale. I'll give you that we didn't replace Wanyama but who on earth were you expecting to replace Mane? Boufal, on paper and given his form with Lille, was probably as close as we were going to get! Hasn't worked out but I don't think you can say that breaking our transfer record for a highly rated young player wasn't supporting the manager!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Thank god, should never have been appointed. Whilst I am not crying he has gone - I have to take exception to this, there is a fairly clear blueprint and remit to this role and from what I can see he matched the criteria. The football was turgid at times, but he has lost his job, based on our strikers finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 A decent man, it just didn't work out. Phew, that's a relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Black only got the job because he could speak French! So can I, where do I apply for the assistant manager's job? Unfortunately I can't speak German though, so no place for me in Tuchel's team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Who replaced Wanyama? Who replaced Fonte? Boufal as a replacement for Mane? Hojbjerg Fonte was a f*ck up but Stephens stepped up and we covered our arses sufficiently with Caceres in the end. Yes Also Redmond replaced Juanmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Glad he has gone . Maybe I can actually stay awake for an entire game now . Excited for next season Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I know it's a very minor thing, but it would be nice to have a manager who can speak good English. Always more interesting I feel to listen to a press conference or interview where it's not the same basic answers and broken English. Just a small thing but I do think it helps build a connection with the fans as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I know it's a very minor thing, but it would be nice to have a manager who can speak good English. Always more interesting I feel to listen to a press conference or interview where it's not the same basic answers and broken English. Just a small thing but I do think it helps build a connection with the fans as well. Either that or make better use of the translator. I felt I had a greater understanding of Poch through a translator than Puel (although credit where it's due for making the effort to try). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Whilst I consider this to be a harsh decision, all things considered, it does however 'feel' right given that he'd obviously lost the support of a significant proportion of the fanbase and, if the rumours are true, some of the dressing room too. Best of luck in your future endeavours Claude, and thanks for some memorable highlights last season. Merci. Bon soir This, sometimes it just doesn't work out. I still believe he did OK with the hand he was dealt and wish him all the best for the future. Time for the players to step up to the plate now. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Inevitable, nice enough guy, but dull as dishwater and the team played in that style. If there's ever proof that a team conveys a mangers 'personality', then just watch us last year. Hopefully I can now listen to our post and pre-match interviews again, just couldn't bring myself to last season. But you've just got to wonder what's taken so long - big decision for the club to make and I just get the feeling that they were waiting until they knew he'd be replaced with 'better' before firing the bullet. The next week or so should be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Feel sorry for CP in so far as he's had a poor hand to deal with, poor striking options for most of the season, injuries to VVD, and the CB fiasco for half a season (mostly down to Les). Against that backdrop an 8th place finish and a Cup Final are a respectable achievement, but the style of play and form over the last couple of months of the season were dreadful. No doubt the right decision, PROVIDING we make the most of it with the right appointment. One of CP's flaws was not getting a message across and inspiring confidence. Hope the message has been learnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I'm not surprised. Saints certainly let it drag on for too long, in my opinion. I feel bad for the fellow but he probably earned more money for slightly less than a year's work than I will earn in my lifetime, so I don't feel that bad. Anyway, thanks for the League Cup run. Best of luck and all that. I just hope that the club have a decent replacement lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Either that or make better use of the translator. I felt I had a greater understanding of Poch through a translator than Puel (although credit where it's due for making the effort to try). It wasn't his fault, it just feels less authentic when there's someone else translating or when the manager is speaking in faltering English. When you compare it to koeman who was cracking jokes and being sarcastic it does give a sense of their personality more which was definitely missing a bit this year. Would be interesting to know if the players felt a similar way though I guess that didn't phase them with Pochettino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I'm glad he's gone , But I can see no good reason for it to have had to drag on this long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I'm glad he's gone , But I can see no good reason for it to have had to drag on this long! Only good reason is that we've been waiting to be in a position to make an almost immediate appointment ourselves.....otherwise the delay seems pointless to what was primarily a pretty easy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Arguably Stephens is now performing better than Fonte prior to his sale. I'll give you that we didn't replace Wanyama but who on earth were you expecting to replace Mane? Boufal, on paper and given his form with Lille, was probably as close as we were going to get! Hasn't worked out but I don't think you can say that breaking our transfer record for a highly rated young player wasn't supporting the manager!! Good, glad I could jog your memory and we agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Puel was not a Bad Manager , He was Unlucky a lot last season but still produced one of the better seasons for us. I always felt he was giving of his best for us but he did seem to rub up some of the players in the wrong way and i think some of them should take a long look at themselves. I would just say thanks & Good Luck in the future Claude. Lets hope uncle Les gets the right manager in quickly and backs him to bring in 2 0r 3 great signings for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 (edited) I wish Claude all the best, 8th place and a cup final at Wembley represented a very good season in my opinion. That day at Wembley will always be special. The style of play at times was not great and some of the decisions regarding dropping players after scorng/playing well was baffling. But all in all thank you Claude, hope you get a decent job back in France. Now onto the new man, will be interesting to see - Tuchel, yes please! maybe LVG or Enrique? Edited 14 June, 2017 by davefizzy14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Alex Crook is suggesting that us announcing it at 10pm is an attempt to stuff the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Hojbjerg Fonte was a f*ck up but Stephens stepped up and we covered our arses sufficiently with Caceres in the end. Yes Also Redmond replaced Juanmi. Exactly, glad we agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Alex Crook is suggesting that us announcing it at 10pm is an attempt to stuff the media Anything to stuff up Crook is a move well made by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I just hope we don't go for De Boer. His football would make Puel's football look like quick attacking play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I just hope we don't go for De Boer. His football would make Puel's football look like quick attacking play. Wasn't everyone begging for him about three years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Anything to stuff up Crook is a move well made by the club. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Alex Crook is suggesting that us announcing it at 10pm is an attempt to stuff the media Would have thought he'd be doing a chest thumping piece about how he "revealed " this first. The 10pm announcements were a Cortese strategy, not sure why we'd want to do it now. Would have thought we'd release it c 10Am. Perhaps the club have been told The Potters Heron have had a cancellation and can fit in an impromptu press conference tomorrow, and TT has got his flight tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Good to get it out of the way. Clearly whether it'll be a good decision will likely be determined by how sound a choice we make in replacing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Jeremy WilsonVerified account @JWTelegraphFollowing More Claude Puel sacked after it was concluded #saintsfc players/fans not sufficiently with him. Thomas Tuchel on shortlist but there are others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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