Window Cleaner Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 Arsenal make bids totalling £85m for Thomas Lemar and Alexandre Lacazette and sound out Leicester over Riyad Mahrez: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/28/arsenal-make-bids-totalling-85m-thomas-lemarand-alexandre-lacazette/ Well yes, they need to improve considerably so you'd expect them to spend a packet wouldn't you.
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 @StuartJamesGNM: Nathan Ake's £20m move from Chelsea to Bournemouth set to go through in next 48hrs - only small details to sort. Ake to sign 5-yr contract
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 Does Bournemouth spending £20m on a player mean they now own the South Coast???
saint77 Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 @StuartJamesGNM: Nathan Ake's £20m move from Chelsea to Bournemouth set to go through in next 48hrs - only small details to sort. Ake to sign 5-yr contract How mad is this league no way is he a £20m player
ErwinK1961 Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 @StuartJamesGNM: Nathan Ake's £20m move from Chelsea to Bournemouth set to go through in next 48hrs - only small details to sort. Ake to sign 5-yr contract £20m?! Madness.
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 How mad is this league no way is he a £20m player £20m?! Madness. Chelsea are the absolute bosses of hoarding talent and selling off for huge profits. Ethically, it's a bit sh*t. But a hell of a cash generator.
Lets B Avenue Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 Does Bournemouth spending £20m on a player mean they now own the South Coast??? I think its "owe the South Coast".
Suhari Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 How can they spend £20M on one player? Doesn't FFP come into it somewhere? Does the fact they get about 84 people in their ground each match day not impact things?
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 How can they spend £20M on one player? Doesn't FFP come into it somewhere? Does the fact they get about 84 people in their ground each match day not impact things? Well I guess their overall wages are fairly low and they get a sh*t ton on TV money. The TV money probably makes their low attendance fairly irrelevant. If I'm wrong, someone will quickly correct me.
SW5 SAINT Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 Chelsea are the absolute bosses of hoarding talent and selling off for huge profits. Ethically, it's a bit sh*t. But a hell of a cash generator. Well we didn't do so badly off Chelsea, getting Romeu for £5m and Bertrand for £10m!
qwertyell Posted 28 June, 2017 Posted 28 June, 2017 Well we didn't do so badly off Chelsea, getting Romeu for £5m and Bertrand for £10m! And Jack Cork for £2.5m. We should raid our feeder club more often. Chalobah alongside Romeu would be just the ticket at the base of the midfield.
positivepete Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 And Jack Cork for £2.5m. We should raid our feeder club more often. Chalobah alongside Romeu would be just the ticket at the base of the midfield. Or Loftus Cheek, he has the potential to be a top player
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 (edited) http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11743/10931174/jermain-defoe-signs-three-year-deal-at-bournemouth Cue, the ridiculous " we should have gone for him posts" A 3 year deal too, he will be 37 at the end... Edited 29 June, 2017 by ALWAYS_SFC
vectraman Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 (edited) http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11743/10931174/jermain-defoe-signs-three-year-deal-at-bournemouth Cue, the ridiculous " we should have gone for him posts" A 3 year deal too, he will be 37 at the end... 15 goals in an appalling Sunderland side....Mmm we can just smugly, and conceitedly laugh at that because he's 34, and signing someone with proven pl experience is just not "the Southampton way"... I genuinely cringe when I hear that "southampton way" ******... We need some proven experience in our young side...but no money to be made in that is there..? So yes, he most definitely could have done a job for us... Edited 30 June, 2017 by vectraman
ErwinK1961 Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 15 goals in an appalling Sunderland side....Mmm we can just smugly, and conceitedly laught at that because he's 34, and signing someone with proven pl experience is just not "the Southampton way"... I genuinely cringe when I hear that "southampton way" ******... We need some proven experience in our young side...but no money to be made in that is there..? So yes, he most definitely could have done a job for us... If you think he's worth £100k plus a week for the next three years, good luck to you.
vectraman Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 If you think he's worth £100k plus a week for the next three years, good luck to you. Report I have read said £65k a week, over 3 years. I don't think that's a bad deal, with no transfer fee involved? For guaranteed goals, 10 million over three years sounds decent? We've blown 12 million plus wages on Clasie, what's the best deal?
saintadam Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 15 goals in an appalling Sunderland side....Mmm we can just smugly, and conceitedly laught at that because he's 34, and signing someone with proven pl experience is just not "the Southampton way"... I genuinely cringe when I hear that "southampton way" ******... We need some proven experience in our young side...but no money to be made in that is there..? So yes, he most definitely could have done a job for us... I cringe when I read post like this. If our strategy were to tie up old players on big wages with no re-sale value we would be in serious trouble financially.
saint77 Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 If you think he's worth £100k plus a week for the next three years, good luck to you. My thoughts entirely something not quite right down the road at boscombe £20m package for Defoe and £28m package for Ake cant see how FFP comes in to play at those figures
Heisenberg Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 Im reliably told that Ake is costing £10m with multiple add ons. Defoe is getting £1.5m sign on and 45k a week. Add those two to Asmir Begović and they've had a decent summer so far (on paper) Be interesting to see if they can somehow keep hold of there better players.... We all know clubs have to sell to the top 7
ErwinK1961 Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 Im reliably told that Ake is costing £10m with multiple add ons. Defoe is getting £1.5m sign on and 45k a week. Add those two to Asmir Begović and they've had a decent summer so far (on paper) Be interesting to see if they can somehow keep hold of there better players.... We all know clubs have to sell to the top 7 Making up figures to suit your agenda. Again. Surely not.
Heisenberg Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 Making up figures to suit your agenda. Again. Surely not. Agenda?
vectraman Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 I cringe when I read post like this. If our strategy were to tie up old players on big wages with no re-sale value we would be in serious trouble financially. I thought the strategy of a football team was to win football matches? Last season we couldn't score for toffee, a PROVEN, guaranteed 15 goals a season man is up for grabs, yet saints fans care more about value for money, and future resale value. We have some odd fans. I want to see Saints win, am I just weird then?
Heisenberg Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 I thought the strategy of a football team was to win football matches? Last season we couldn't score for toffee, a PROVEN, guaranteed 15 goals a season man is up for grabs, yet saints fans care more about value for money, and future resale value. We have some odd fans. I want to see Saints win, am I just weird then? A number of our fans have PTSD from our league 1 visit. They are also stuck on 2002 income and player values. Its a small but vocal minority thankfully Its either the southampton way or Pompey way.... No in-between for some
shurlock Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 A number of our fans have PTSD from our league 1 visit. They are also stuck on 2002 income and player values. Its a small but vocal minority thankfully Its either the southampton way or Pompey way.... No in-between for some The Leslie-ites will preach the gospel of resale value and make you a disciple of the Southampton Way yet, Glasgow. Don't underestimate their missionary zeal.
Lighthouse Posted 29 June, 2017 Author Posted 29 June, 2017 I thought the strategy of a football team was to win football matches? Last season we couldn't score for toffee, a PROVEN, guaranteed 15 goals a season man is up for grabs, yet saints fans care more about value for money, and future resale value. We have some odd fans. I want to see Saints win, am I just weird then? I'm not a betting man but if I were I'd bet £0.10 that Defoe wont score 15 goals next season.
SNSUN Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 I thought the strategy of a football team was to win football matches? Last season we couldn't score for toffee, a PROVEN, guaranteed 15 goals a season man is up for grabs, yet saints fans care more about value for money, and future resale value. We have some odd fans. I want to see Saints win, am I just weird then? You do realise we signed a sought-after Italian International striker in January aren't you, one who banged in 6 goals in just 8 appearances? An ageing Defoe is the last person we needed with Austin, Long and Gallagher backing up Manolo. I'll give Defoe credit though, players with pace normally would have faded by now. He's done well to keep it up as long as he has. A 3 year contract on what I can only imagine is high wages is risky though, he'll be nearly 38 when that contract is up.
cellone Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 I would consider it a big step backwards if we signed Defoe.
Saint Albert Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 15 goals in an appalling Sunderland side....Mmm we can just smugly, and conceitedly laught at that because he's 34, and signing someone with proven pl experience is just not "the Southampton way"... I genuinely cringe when I hear that "southampton way" ******... We need some proven experience in our young side...but no money to be made in that is there..? So yes, he most definitely could have done a job for us... A decent short-term fix for Bournemouth especially if they lose King, but Saints were never going to smash their wage structure for an aging ex-Pompey player.
Heisenberg Posted 29 June, 2017 Posted 29 June, 2017 Spurs doing what they do best - giving the bird to teams (above them in food chain) wanting to sign there best players. Just slapped a £200m price tag on Kane....
aintforever Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Good business by Bournemouth, when are we going to actually invest rather than just replace players we've sold?
Wimborne_saint Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Good business by Bournemouth, when are we going to actually invest rather than just replace players we've sold? Good business, but I don't see giving an aged defoe a three year deal on £65k pw as investment. Ake is a good signing yes, but bournemouth spent a lot on players last summer and most of them flopped. £15m on Ibe etc..
aintforever Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Good business, but I don't see giving an aged defoe a three year deal on £65k pw as investment. Ake is a good signing yes, but bournemouth spent a lot on players last summer and most of them flopped. £15m on Ibe etc.. Ibe is only 21, not sure you can call him a failure just because he didn't set the Prem alight in his first season. Ake looks like he's going to be an awesome player. If Defoe's goals give them another Prem season then it will be a good investment IMO, plus his experience will be a value to their squad. When Wilson is fit he probably won't start anyway.
Heisenberg Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Good business, but I don't see giving an aged defoe a three year deal on £65k pw as investment. Ake is a good signing yes, but bournemouth spent a lot on players last summer and most of them flopped. £15m on Ibe etc.. Ibe has just turned 21....you wouldn't write off a young player after just 1 season?
Greenridge Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Good business, but I don't see giving an aged defoe a three year deal on £65k pw as investment. Ake is a good signing yes, but bournemouth spent a lot on players last summer and most of them flopped. £15m on Ibe etc.. Offset by him coming on a free.
GGalpin Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 If good business is giving a 35 year old striker £65kp/w wages for three years, buying a substitute goalkeeper for £10m who was on £60kp/w at Chelsea so presumably earning a similar amount, and signing a player Chelsea barely used for £20m, then count me out.
GGalpin Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Offset by him coming on a free. Offset by giving him a large signing on fee. Andre Ayew went for 'free' to Swansea but they paid an £8m signing on fee.
Badger Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Ake now confirmed as signing for Bournemouth. Good signing for them. Wonder what Les , and his jock apprentice are doing today.
angelman Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Offset by giving him a large signing on fee. Andre Ayew went for 'free' to Swansea but they paid an £8m signing on fee. I believe that he was on £86,000 a week at Sunderland. So he has taken a drop of £21k a week, which if you extend over 3 years, would be about £3.276m. I think that I heard somewhere, maybe it is my imagination, that there was something like a £3m signing on fee.
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Like Ake surely he is just the sort of player we should be looking at rather than some young, PL untested, Polish lad. Does this now mean Bournemouth's record signing is more expensive than our record signing...
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 I believe that he was on £86,000 a week at Sunderland. So he has taken a drop of £21k a week, which if you extend over 3 years, would be about £3.276m. I think that I heard somewhere, maybe it is my imagination, that there was something like a £3m signing on fee. A lot if bonuses as well I believe. I think I read if he hits all his bonus targets he can pretty much double his weekly wage.
S-Clarke Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Is this where we all start to ''Wish we were Bournemouth''? Just trying to keep on track.
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Is this where we all start to ''Wish we were Bournemouth''? Just trying to keep on track. Hardly would have liked to have signed Ake though.
Window Cleaner Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 (edited) Is this where we all start to ''Wish we were Bournemouth''? Just trying to keep on track. Who would want to be Bournemouth really. They have ground to make up and their reasonably successful season last time out may permit them to do that. We're already there and don't need such acquisitions as they're currently making, why Les even said so just las week. Sometimes I kind of wish for the old pre massive communication days when we had a couple of months off from football in the summer. Team just came back out in August, hardly changed from that of May. Mostly the same players, same manager, often the same kit etc. Summer was for cricket, tennis and Hengisbury Head. Edited 30 June, 2017 by Window Cleaner
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Is this where we all start to ''Wish we were Bournemouth''? Just trying to keep on track. They are the new Everton
whelk Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Defoe on a 3 year contract is just funny. Ake seems promising but generally their transfer business has been abysmal
Pamplemousse Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Their model is completely unsustainable. I seem to recall another south coast team spending beyond its means. It'll go tits up soon.
Batman Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Their model is completely unsustainable. I seem to recall another south coast team spending beyond its means. It'll go tits up soon. how is it completely unsustainable.?
Saint-Reece Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Is this the 'I wish we did business like Palace/Norwich/Stoke' of this year? Just when will people learn?
angelman Posted 30 June, 2017 Posted 30 June, 2017 Is this the 'I wish we did business like Palace/Norwich/Stoke' of this year? Just when will people learn? Seems it is.
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