SuperSAINT Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 Will Hughes off to Watford for £5m. That could prove to be a bargain. Sounds incredibly cheap. Wait, what? Watford are signing an English player?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 EVERTON REMAIN BUSY Everton are still interested in Michael Keane, Gylfi Sigurdsson and Sandro Ramirez, according to Sky sources. Ronald Koeman is planning a big rebuild of his squad this summer and they spent more than £53m yesterday on Jordan Pickford and Davy Klaassen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 EVERTON REMAIN BUSY Everton are still interested in Michael Keane, Gylfi Sigurdsson and Sandro Ramirez, according to Sky sources. Ronald Koeman is planning a big rebuild of his squad this summer and they spent more than £53m yesterday on Jordan Pickford and Davy Klaassen. Will be interesting to see how his 'believer in youth' image goes next season, after they're done with all these signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 Everton spending that Lukaku money before it becomes official on day 1 of preaseaon hence getting their busy done early. I am interested in who they will get as a striker to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 Everton spending that Lukaku money before it becomes official on day 1 of preaseaon hence getting their busy done early. I am interested in who they will get as a striker to replace him. So am I. They are seemingly adding goals in other departments to take the burden off the front man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 Everton spending that Lukaku money before it becomes official on day 1 of preaseaon hence getting their busy done early. I am interested in who they will get as a striker to replace him. They've got officials in Milan for M'baye Niang at £16m I read earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 And Carlos bacca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 They've got officials in Milan for M'baye Niang at £16m I read earlier A player who's never realised the promise he showed as a teenager. Aren't they looking at Sandro Ramirez from Malaga as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 probably why he went to Everton with these sort if signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 probably why he went to Everton with these sort if signings But their owner has real money, plus they have players who they know are going to be sold. Everton need to get on with their transfers anyway as they start their EL campaign at the end of July. Their players must be back there in a fortnight I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 probably why he went to Everton with these sort if signings Yep I think we will be talking about the top 7 and "the rest" v.soon, they were strides ahead of us and all teams 8-20th last season and are showing the ambition that Koeman wanted/hoped for here. Crazy to think just 12 months ago we finished 16 points and 6 places above them - that's what complacency does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 Yep I think we will be talking about the top 7 and "the rest" v.soon, they were strides ahead of us and all teams 8-20th last season and are showing the ambition that Koeman wanted/hoped for here. Crazy to think just 12 months ago we finished 16 points and 6 places above them - that's what complacency does. I know it is said about 1 or 2 clubs every year, and they generally under perform, but I'm rather jealous of Everton at the moment. Showing real intent over the past 2 windows and I think klaassen is a fantastic signing, although it's yet to be seen how he will adapt to English football. They're a couple of defenders short of having a fantastic team, one that IMO could challenge the top 6 for that CL spot. I just hope the takeover stuff is sorted ASAP, as clubs are starting to make their move early, I don't want us to fall behind as the squad we currently have just isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 I know it is said about 1 or 2 clubs every year, and they generally under perform, but I'm rather jealous of Everton at the moment. Showing real intent over the past 2 windows and I think klaassen is a fantastic signing, although it's yet to be seen how he will adapt to English football. They're a couple of defenders short of having a fantastic team, one that IMO could challenge the top 6 for that CL spot. I just hope the takeover stuff is sorted ASAP, as clubs are starting to make their move early, I don't want us to fall behind as the squad we currently have just isn't good enough. I’m the same - watching with a twinge of envy for sure. Just hope they fail to replace Lukaku adequately and suffer hugely like we did with the volume of games and long season. We had a huge opportunity to cement our top 7 credentials last summer, but we seemingly took a seasons nap while Everton added youth and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 probably why he went to Everton with these sort if signings If they can do this under FFP purely because his mate Alisher Usmanov's company sponsored their training ground (75m) to be called USM Finch Farm then this is making the rules a complete joke, he's basically given them 25m for each letter before Finch Farm. http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/arsenal-shareholder-usmanov-sponsors-everton-training-ground-393890 I welcome Chinese overlords if they can start doing these short of shennigans. I predict Usmanov is taking over Everton by stealh via Moshiri and when they get champions league he will sell out of Arsenal and become the new Everton chairman. Currently he is backing 2 horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 I know it is said about 1 or 2 clubs every year, and they generally under perform, but I'm rather jealous of Everton at the moment. Showing real intent over the past 2 windows and I think klaassen is a fantastic signing, although it's yet to be seen how he will adapt to English football. I'm afraid that I am the complete opposite. I look at them and think, yup, another club that just spends spends spends. Ambition seems to mean how much you can spend. Is that really what football has come to? (Yes) Is that really what you want Saints to do? Do you want all 11 players to have no connection with the club what so ever? I very much enjoy bringing players through, and the blend of bought in players that we have seems to be about OK. It was better under Poch, but times change. I recall when City came to play us. Not one English player started, and Sterling got 5 minutes at the end. I thought that that would be something I would really hate to happen to Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 Brighton have confirmed the signing of goalkeeper Mathew Ryan from Valencia. The newly-promoted Premier League club say Ryan has agreed a five-year deal and joins for a club-record fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 @SamWallaceTel: Manchester United told Eric Dier will cost them £50 million #MUFC http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/16/manchester-united-told-eric-dier-will-cost-50-million/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 Everton spending that Lukaku money before it becomes official on day 1 of preaseaon hence getting their busy done early. I am interested in who they will get as a striker to replace him. Sounds sensible to me, as soon they get the Lukaku money the clubs they are doing business will be demanding more............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 @SamWallaceTel: Manchester United told Eric Dier will cost them £50 million #MUFC http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/16/manchester-united-told-eric-dier-will-cost-50-million/ How much would a decent player like Romeu be worth then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 June, 2017 Share Posted 16 June, 2017 @SamWallaceTel: Manchester United told Eric Dier will cost them £50 million #MUFC http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/16/manchester-united-told-eric-dier-will-cost-50-million/ F*cking hell this transfer market is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 It's easy to look "Ambitious" when you get £150m in fees from 2 players (Lukaku/Stones). Without the Stones sale last season their net spend was under £20m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 I read a stat recently that Lukaku was involved, either rough scoring or assisting, in 50% of their goals last season. That was by far the highest in the league. They can spend a lot this summer but if they sell Lukaku and don't replace him well then they're going to have an average season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 If they can do this under FFP purely because his mate Alisher Usmanov's company sponsored their training ground (75m) to be called USM Finch Farm then this is making the rules a complete joke, he's basically given them 25m for each letter before Finch Farm. http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/arsenal-shareholder-usmanov-sponsors-everton-training-ground-393890 I welcome Chinese overlords if they can start doing these short of shennigans. I predict Usmanov is taking over Everton by stealh via Moshiri and when they get champions league he will sell out of Arsenal and become the new Everton chairman. Currently he is backing 2 horses. I agree that this deal is suspicious, but the 75m is for two deals--this one and a new shirt deal. This deal is over 5 years as is the shirt deal. Therefore, they are worth 15m a year. Very helpful, but not lucrative enough to pay for their new signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1976 Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 It's easy to look "Ambitious" when you get £150m in fees from 2 players (Lukaku/Stones). Without the Stones sale last season their net spend was under £20m. But the money would've been there regardless, this season has proven that. Stones was promised a move the season before and he got his wish. City got the short straw there, he's been awful this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1976 Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 I read a stat recently that Lukaku was involved, either rough scoring or assisting, in 50% of their goals last season. That was by far the highest in the league. They can spend a lot this summer but if they sell Lukaku and don't replace him well then they're going to have an average season You're surmising that none of the new players will chip in with goals, you can see the logic in Koeman's thoughts, he's planning life without Lukaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1976 Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 I'm afraid that I am the complete opposite. I look at them and think, yup, another club that just spends spends spends. Ambition seems to mean how much you can spend. Is that really what football has come to? (Yes) Is that really what you want Saints to do? Do you want all 11 players to have no connection with the club what so ever? I very much enjoy bringing players through, and the blend of bought in players that we have seems to be about OK. It was better under Poch, but times change. I recall when City came to play us. Not one English player started, and Sterling got 5 minutes at the end. I thought that that would be something I would really hate to happen to Saints. Most teams everywhere have 11 players that have no connection with the club including us. The difference is our owners have the money but they're not prepared to bankroll us. Many teams have the odd local player. Be honest, we wish it was us spending big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Brighton have confirmed the signing of goalkeeper Mathew Ryan from Valencia. The newly-promoted Premier League club say Ryan has agreed a five-year deal and joins for a club-record fee. Good keeper that would have liked here and only one of Aussie national team that is worthy of a top half team, with first team football is a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Most teams everywhere have 11 players that have no connection with the club including us. The difference is our owners have the money but they're not prepared to bankroll us. Many teams have the odd local player. Be honest, we wish it was us spending big bucks. Our owner doesn't have the money, there is no "they" it is "she", that is the point. I thought we'd established that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Everton in for Chambers and Keane http://dailym.ai/2syZkHW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 I read a stat recently that Lukaku was involved, either rough scoring or assisting, in 50% of their goals last season. That was by far the highest in the league. They can spend a lot this summer but if they sell Lukaku and don't replace him well then they're going to have an average season perhaps their board will tell their fans they bought a charlie Austin as cover for the outgoing strikers like our board did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Everton in for Chambers and Keane http://dailym.ai/2syZkHW Are Everton the new West ham now? at this rate they'll have a squad of 50+ players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Are Everton the new West ham now? at this rate they'll have a squad of 50+ players If signing some top players and being linked with other top players makes them the new West ham then yea Everton are the new West ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 If signing some top players and being linked with other top players makes them the new West ham then yea Everton are the new West ham Top players is a bit far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 @_pauljoyce: Everton set to complete signing of Sandro Ramirez. Player had medical last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Everton preparing for Lukaku & Barkley jumping ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Would be amusing if Barkley said no to being sold (which is perfectly within his rights) and no one wanted to buy either at Everton's valuations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 17 June, 2017 Share Posted 17 June, 2017 Everton doing very nicely. We can't really profess to be rivals to them any more given their spending power Five really good signings to improve them since January - fair play, that is why Koeman left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Everton doing very nicely. We can't really profess to be rivals to them any more given their spending power Five really good signings to improve them since January - fair play, that is why Koeman left. They've sold/are selling their best players and replacing them with cheaper ones. Where have I heard that before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Evertons first 5 fixtures though lol Stoke Man city Chelsea Spurs Man utd We can laugh and compare fortunes until October again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Everton doing very nicely. We can't really profess to be rivals to them any more given their spending power Five really good signings to improve them since January - fair play, that is why Koeman left. Koeman "fawn" Everton "fawn". Who really gives a sh it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Koeman "fawn" Everton "fawn". Who really gives a sh it Well considering this is a premier league rival transfers thread I would imagine quite a few people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 They've sold/are selling their best players and replacing them with cheaper ones. Where have I heard that before? Have the good sense to bring the "replacements" in before selling them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Everton didn't spend any money other than what they got for Stones last year. Theyre spending money at the moment but it's more than likely it's the Lukaku money in advance. But they're yet to replace the 20 goal striker that separates them from us. So i'll wait until the season starts to go all 'why aren't we like Everton?' because at the moment they're behaving just like we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1976 Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 They've sold/are selling their best players and replacing them with cheaper ones. Where have I heard that before? They must be approaching 100m net spend since January, I'd hardly call taking the Ajax captain for 24m, Morgan from Man Utd for around the same price and Pickford for 30m 'replacing their players with cheaper ones'. Lukaku cost £28, Stones cost next to nothing off Barnsley and Barkley came through the ranks and cost them nothing. Sandro if they sign him only never went to Athletico Madrid because of their transfer ban and they're getting him cheap because of a release clause. And besides, it doesn't look like they've finished spending yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1976 Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Oh and Bolasie was 20 odd million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Everton after Dembele from Celtic too now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 Everton after Dembele from Celtic too now ! just like saints apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 HAMMERS EYE GIROUD West Ham are trying to sign Arsenal striker Olivier Giroud, according to Sky sources. Giroud is on a list of of attacking players West Ham are interested in signing this summer, with Kelechi Iheanacho (Manchester City), Michy Batshuayi (Chelsea), Adama Traore (Middlesbrough) and Henry Onyekuru (KAS Eupen). The France international scored 19 times last season, but he began only 11 league games and Arsene Wenger preferred to start with Danny Welbeck in the FA Cup final. The player signed a new Arsenal contract in January which runs out in the summer of 2019, but his future at the club is uncertain with Wenger trying to sign Kylian Mbappe from Monaco and Alexandre Lacazette from Lyon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 just like saints apparently No way I can see us getting him. We'd have to double our record fee for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 June, 2017 Share Posted 18 June, 2017 They must be approaching 100m net spend since January, I'd hardly call taking the Ajax captain for 24m, Morgan from Man Utd for around the same price and Pickford for 30m 'replacing their players with cheaper ones'. Lukaku cost £28, Stones cost next to nothing off Barnsley and Barkley came through the ranks and cost them nothing. Sandro if they sign him only never went to Athletico Madrid because of their transfer ban and they're getting him cheap because of a release clause. And besides, it doesn't look like they've finished spending yet either. TBH the ridiculous inflation of player prices means its getting impossible to decide what is good value with regards to player recruitment. You can't really judge if they've (or anyone for that matter) has done good business this summer until the end of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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