angelman Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 That must mean nearly all clubs make large losses This might answer some of it - from Jan 2017 - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 How mental is it to turn down £118m for Coutinho......?Even Barcelona blinked at the sum offered for Neymar, but the likes of Liverpool! How mental is it to turn down 70 million for VVD?its all relative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 How mental is it to turn down 70 million for VVD?its all relative Nobody has actually made a bid for VVD yet, let alone 70 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 This might answer some of it - from Jan 2017 - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-club Saints: Commercial activities £12m, Matchday £19m Man Utd: Commercial, merchandising and sponsorship £268m, Gate and matchday income £107m We all know they're much bigger than us, but it's like an elephant and a flea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 18:04 CLUCAS UPDATE An update now on Sam Clucas' proposed £16.5m move from Hull to Swansea. Sky Sports News understands he is undergoing a medical at the Welsh club and the deal will be completed tomorrow. Why are Swansea wasting almost £17m, yes, seventeen million....on sam ****ing clucas? The world has officially stopped spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Delph to stoke doing the rounds also, seen a few Huddersfield fans going on about getting Lamela and smalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2017 Share Posted 22 August, 2017 Delph to stoke doing the rounds also, seen a few Huddersfield fans going on about getting Lamela and smalling Stoke seemingly been after him for a while. Missed out on Lemina too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Palace linked with Oliver Burke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Palace linked with Oliver Burke. Yeah, I saw FdB mention him in a press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Why are Swansea wasting almost £17m, yes, seventeen million....on sam ****ing clucas? The world has officially stopped spinning. Because they over paid for sigurdson and hull know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Why are Swansea wasting almost £17m, yes, seventeen million....on sam ****ing clucas? The world has officially stopped spinning. Getting him settled ready for the promotion push next season??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Because they over paid for sigurdson and hull know it You mean clubs know the fee they got for Siggy.... yeah, probably that. But I'd tell them to do one at that price. This is why I like our approach and always will prefer it, no matter what people say. Occasionally you'll need to buy British and over pay (as we did with Long at the time) but there are proper bargains out on the continent if you have a decent scouting network. (most at at least half the cost). Just feels wrong that Swansea are going to waste a good % of their Siggy fortune on Clucas. I thought he was a young player, but he's actually 26/27....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Barca haven't gone away yet so it seems... Barcelona are preparing a fourth bid for Liverpool's Philippe Coutinho that could rise to £138m. Sky Sports News understands that contrary to reports suggesting Barcelona and Coutinho are giving up hope of securing a move before the summer window closes, the Catalan club are preparing to test Liverpool's resolve once more with an initial payment of £101m up front - with £37m in bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Whilst the previous bid from Barca was labelled as about £112mil in the press, the rumoured structuring was embarrassing. Supposedly £80mil spread over 5 years, and then the rest made up in add-ons including 'winning the Champions League twice' and 'Winning the Ballon D'or and multiple trophies in the same season'. If I was a Liverpool fan and Barca offered £100mil for Coutinho i'd pack his bags and drop him off at the airport myself, but not in a deal structured as pathetically as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Also Barcelona have £200 million cash guaranteed because you can't structure buy outs deals any other way, PSG paid all that cash up front so a bit cheeky for them to go and over Liverpool the money over 5 years. Plus they clearly have space on the wage bill as I think Neymar was the second highest wage earner as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 You mean clubs know the fee they got for Siggy.... yeah, probably that. But I'd tell them to do one at that price. This is why I like our approach and always will prefer it, no matter what people say. Occasionally you'll need to buy British and over pay (as we did with Long at the time) but there are proper bargains out on the continent if you have a decent scouting network. (most at at least half the cost). Just feels wrong that Swansea are going to waste a good % of their Siggy fortune on Clucas. I thought he was a young player, but he's actually 26/27....! Yep agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate Wayne Rooney retires from England duty after rejecting recall from Southgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate He retired years ago. Can't help but think he's a petulant little knobhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate It's a shame we only ever saw him perform in Euro 2004. He was electric in that tournament, but he never, ever reached those heights again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate I wonder if his 4th child will have a pikey name starting with the letter 'K'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Whilst the previous bid from Barca was labelled as about £112mil in the press, the rumoured structuring was embarrassing. Supposedly £80mil spread over 5 years, and then the rest made up in add-ons including 'winning the Champions League twice' and 'Winning the Ballon D'or and multiple trophies in the same season'. If I was a Liverpool fan and Barca offered £100mil for Coutinho i'd pack his bags and drop him off at the airport myself, but not in a deal structured as pathetically as that. Is it just me that thinks Barca have really dropped a bollock here? I know £198m seemed like a huge fee, but personally I thought he was worth that money at the time, even in the market prior to his sale, as he is a genuine top five player in the world. Every percentage improvement over your rival at that top end costs you a bloody fortune. But now, in the market post Neymar sale, Neymar looks almost a bargain if you are having to pay £120m for Couhtinho, who although excellent, really isn't as good or ever will be a good as Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate very nicely worded statement. Kudos to his PR team. Would that name work Batman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4816430/Bournemouth-readying-26m-bid-Gray-plus-add-ons.html £26m + add ons!! Say £30m then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/23/wayne-rooney-retires-england-rejects-recall-gareth-southgate It must have been good for Rooney to say 'hi Garath, thanks for the offer, but no thanks.' To recall him after just 2 games of the season was a nonsense anyway. Rooney has had the last laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 @SwansOfficial: We are delighted to announce the signing of @samclucas from @HullCity for an undisclosed fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 @SpursOfficial: We are delighted to announce that @daosanchez26 has completed his move to the Club subject to receipt of his work permit later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 Sam Clucus? Wasn't he a rancher in Bonanza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 Sam Clucus? Wasn't he a rancher in Bonanza? You've got one hell of a memory if he was. Unless you're confusing him with another character in a western , Sam Clucluxclan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 Man City are trying to sign Espanyol defender Aaron Martin, reports Sport. City have tracked the Spaniard, 20, for several months and are in negotiations with Espanyol after tabling a €20m bid. Blimey, he's gone on to big things. Always thought it was a bit clumsy in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 I think Demari Grey from Leicester would be a signing we need. Very quick, direct and very young. Huge potential there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 I think Demari Grey from Leicester would be a signing we need. Very quick, direct and very young. Huge potential there He's exactly what I hoped Redmond would be for us. Gray is excellent, would cost a lot of $$ though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 united re-sign ibrahimovic, who is expected to be fit by December title sewn up then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 He's exactly what I hoped Redmond would be for us. Gray is excellent, would cost a lot of $$ though. Crazy that we didn't make a move when his release clause was £3.5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 OLIVER BURKE HAVING MEDICAL AT WBA RP Leipzig winger Oliver Burke is on his way to West Bromwich Albion this evening to undergo a medical before a possible move to the Premier League, according to Sky sources. Burke left Nottingham Forest for Germany last summer for £13m, and impressed in his first few appearances in the Bundesliga, before slipping down the pecking order. In total, he started just five league games last season. Sky Sources understand the deal could cost West Brom up to £15m if he's transferred permanently, but a loan deal is also a possibility. Eager to see how he does. Looked an awesome prospect at Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 @WatfordFC: A warm welcome to @18andrecarrillo, who has signed for #watfordfc on a season-long loan from Benfica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 I wish we were Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 I think Demari Grey from Leicester would be a signing we need. Very quick, direct and very young. Huge potential there He's exactly what I hoped Redmond would be for us. Gray is excellent, would cost a lot of $$ though. 2016/17 Gray 30 Premier League games... 1 goal Redmond 37 Premier League games... 7 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 2016/17 Gray 30 Premier League games... 1 goal Redmond 37 Premier League games... 7 goals :mcinnes: Gray played the full 90 minutes... TWICE Redmond played the full 90 24x Gray played the equivalent of just 11 full games last season in the league. Redmond got over 3x longer on the pitch and played a lot of games as our main striker when Puel decided he was the "new Henry" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 2016/17 Gray 30 Premier League games... 1 goal Redmond 37 Premier League games... 7 goals Happy yoshida's been awarded an extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 Gylfi Sigurdsson marked his first Everton start with a stunning 50-yard strike as Ronald Koeman's side reached the Europa League group stage That's one way to mark your debut..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 @JpercyTelegraph: Stoke have made a bid worth up to £15m for Spurs defender Kevin Wimmer. Palace & West Brom also in. #scfc #thfc #wba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 :mcinnes: Gray played the full 90 minutes... TWICE Redmond played the full 90 24x Gray played the equivalent of just 11 full games last season in the league. Redmond got over 3x longer on the pitch and played a lot of games as our main striker when Puel decided he was the "new Henry" so a player not good enough to force his way into a really poor Leicester side last season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 :mcinnes: Gray played the full 90 minutes... TWICE Redmond played the full 90 24x Gray played the equivalent of just 11 full games last season in the league. Redmond got over 3x longer on the pitch and played a lot of games as our main striker when Puel decided he was the "new Henry"Not being able to hold down a place in the side is the new gold standard in judging player quality. Which other fringe players from teams that finished below us should we be looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 August, 2017 Share Posted 25 August, 2017 He's exactly what I hoped Redmond would be for us.Gray is excellent, would cost a lot of $$ though.Personally I think Redmond is a superb player and will be another to command a high fee when he leaves. I would like to see him in a more central attacking role, right up on the defenders shoulder to use his pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 25 August, 2017 Share Posted 25 August, 2017 "Chelsea and Liverpool look set to battle it out to sign Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain after he turned down a new £180K a week deal at Arsenal." Im glad we are not after him, massively overpaid player and what has he really done to deserve 180k a week?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2017 Share Posted 25 August, 2017 Personally I think Redmond is a superb player and will be another to command a high fee when he leaves. I would like to see him in a more central attacking role, right up on the defenders shoulder to use his paceWhat has redmond done at saints thus far to be described as superb? He has potential but he's had an extended run in the team now and has been nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 August, 2017 Share Posted 25 August, 2017 "Chelsea and Liverpool look set to battle it out to sign Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain after he turned down a new £180K a week deal at Arsenal." Im glad we are not after him, massively overpaid player and what has he really done to deserve 180k a week?! Us "being after him" would make no difference whatsoever to the situation. He wants to go to a club that's at the top of the pile and just now that's not the case at either Arsenal or Southampton; People seem to have difficulty in understanding just to what extent ambition drives some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 August, 2017 Share Posted 25 August, 2017 Hell of a signing by WBA to get Oliver Burke for £15m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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