Ultimatt Posted 19 July, 2017 Posted 19 July, 2017 MARTIN SAMUEL: Fair play to Everton... They've beaten the elitist trap http://dailym.ai/2vzxLwp :lol: Did we not spend the same in 2014 when we invested all our player sales If/When Everton flop hope this article is chucked into Samuels face They've been blessed with £125m for 2 players. Pretty easy to spend big on the back of that. Real good chance to push on much like we did on the back of Shaw/Chambers/Lallana sales.
mrfahaji Posted 19 July, 2017 Posted 19 July, 2017 Don't feel a Samuel article deserves any sort of consideration, but there's two things about the FFP ruling. Firstly, the way it was set up favoured the clubs who had already spent and meant others couldn't get near them. Secondly, without the FFP it now becomes a case of who has the richest owner (or the one prepared to spend the most). Don't think either of those cases is great to be honest, and it's a shame that it seems to be one of the other and they couldn't come up with a better system that served sustainability and healthy competition. Unfortunately the answer is handicapping the wealthiest clubs as well as, if not more than the other teams, and we know that's NEVER going to happen.
doggface Posted 19 July, 2017 Posted 19 July, 2017 I am looking for articles that FFP has been abolished or eased but can find nothing. This is news to me....Anyone have any links? Thanks
SuperSAINT Posted 19 July, 2017 Posted 19 July, 2017 @ChelseaFC: We have agreed terms with Real Madrid for the transfer of Alvaro Morata... http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2017/07/morata-transfer-agreed.html?extcmp=SOCIA_TW_ENG_TRANSFERS
Saint_John Posted 19 July, 2017 Posted 19 July, 2017 I am looking for articles that FFP has been abolished or eased but can find nothing. This is news to me....Anyone have any links? Thanks Daniel Geey (Football Law) says they are still in place Um, just to be clear. UEFA FFP and PL sustainability/cost controls v much still in place. https://twitter.com/FootballLaw/status/887597693392084992 Some of the comments about MS article :- " Terrible article!",.... "just a tad strange that the premise of the piece is that the rules have ended.".... "Kenwright's mate Samuel, deflecting blame towards UEFA"......"He used to be an interesting and relevant journalist but now just bizarre and pointless"...."Thanks for clearing that up Daniel. Deliberate misinformation. Bizarre piece"
mrfahaji Posted 19 July, 2017 Posted 19 July, 2017 Daniel Geey (Football Law) says they are still in place https://twitter.com/FootballLaw/status/887597693392084992 Some of the comments about MS article :- " Terrible article!",.... "just a tad strange that the premise of the piece is that the rules have ended.".... "Kenwright's mate Samuel, deflecting blame towards UEFA"......"He used to be an interesting and relevant journalist but now just bizarre and pointless"...."Thanks for clearing that up Daniel. Deliberate misinformation. Bizarre piece" When I read it I did think it was funny that I hadn't heard anything about them ending. How utterly bizarre for a big name journalist, no matter how poor, to come up with something like that!
doggface Posted 19 July, 2017 Posted 19 July, 2017 Thanks. Reinforces what we already knew. He's a massive ****.
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 @JBurtTelegraph: Monaco reject Man City's £44.5m bid for Benjamin Mendy and want same fee Spurs got for Kyle Walker http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/20/monaco-reject-man-citys-445m-bid-benjamin-mendy-want-fee-tottenham/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw
S-Clarke Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 @JBurtTelegraph: Monaco reject Man City's £44.5m bid for Benjamin Mendy and want same fee Spurs got for Kyle Walker http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/20/monaco-reject-man-citys-445m-bid-benjamin-mendy-want-fee-tottenham/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw … via @telefootball This is what annoys me, you'll hear Man City now saying ''woe be me, everyone wants too much for their players'' - But they're the bloody reason people are asking for the fee's they're asking for. Monaco are absolutely fair, if Kyle Walker is 55m, then Mendy is that and probably more. City have put themselves into this boat by splurging stupid fees on the likes of Stones, Mangala etc. Now they'll have to pay through the roof for decent players.
Give it to Ron Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 West Ham have agreed a deal in principle to sign former Manchester United striker Javier Hernández from Bayer Leverkusen.....not sure if that will work out well for them - he will struggle with the pace now. Good in his day.
Gemmel Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 Don't feel a Samuel article deserves any sort of consideration, but there's two things about the FFP ruling. Firstly, the way it was set up favoured the clubs who had already spent and meant others couldn't get near them. Secondly, without the FFP it now becomes a case of who has the richest owner (or the one prepared to spend the most). Don't think either of those cases is great to be honest, and it's a shame that it seems to be one of the other and they couldn't come up with a better system that served sustainability and healthy competition. Unfortunately the answer is handicapping the wealthiest clubs as well as, if not more than the other teams, and we know that's NEVER going to happen. Not sure I agree with your summary - Based on my understanding .... Which could well be wrong. For me the FFP rule was all about stopping the mega clubs splitting off into a super league. If my understanding is correct, it doesn't matter how rich your owner is as wages are limited to a fixed percentage of your turnover...... Which effectively means that if Katrina wanted to buy Messi and Ronaldo for 200 million and then pay them a million pound a week on a five year contract, with all the money deposited in an escrow account .............. We still wouldn't be allowed to do it........ Unless I have missed something.
Dusic Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 West Ham have agreed a deal in principle to sign former Manchester United striker Javier Hernández from Bayer Leverkusen.....not sure if that will work out well for them - he will struggle with the pace now. Good in his day.He is only 29 and has been doing well in Germany. Very good signing for West Ham IMO. Proven goalscorer. Definitely some decent buys from a few mid table clubs this summer.
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 He is only 29 and has been doing well in Germany. Very good signing for West Ham IMO. Proven goalscorer. Definitely some decent buys from a few mid table clubs this summer. I think he's a great signing for them.
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/20/arsenal-reject-16m-calum-chambers-bid-crystal-palace/
Saint Albert Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 Monaco accuse four clubs of tapping up Mbappe: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/20/monaco-kylian-mbappe-report-clubs-tapping-up
qwertyell Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/20/arsenal-reject-16m-calum-chambers-bid-crystal-palace/ "He has played full-back, central midfield and centre back and, while technically accomplished, there have been questions about his pace or physical presence in those positions." The Ward-Prowse of defenders. Solid technique but isn't actually very good in any particular role. Best £16 million we've ever made.
mrfahaji Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 Monaco accuse four clubs of tapping up Mbappe: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/20/monaco-kylian-mbappe-report-clubs-tapping-up Don't tell me, double standards again from Southampton?
Crab Lungs Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 The funny thing is, West Ham will perennially finish tenth no matter what they do or who they sign.
Crab Lungs Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 "He has played full-back, central midfield and centre back and, while technically accomplished, there have been questions about his pace or physical presence in those positions." The Ward-Prowse of defenders. Solid technique but isn't actually very good in any particular role. Best £16 million we've ever made. Modern day Rory Delap
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/arsenal-transfer-news-latest-tottenham-circle-city-jadon-sancho-break-down-a7851981.html
Saint Albert Posted 20 July, 2017 Posted 20 July, 2017 Barcelona bid 80m Euros for Coutinho: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4715806/Barcelona-bid-72m-Coutinho-Liverpool-demand-more.html
Saint Albert Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 (edited) Joyce of the Times reporting that Barcalona's offer for Coutinho is £72M / 80M Euros. I wonder if Catalonia has an equivalent to Blackpool? Edited 21 July, 2017 by Saint Albert Sterling/Euro
lickierambert Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 I presume all the Liverpool fans on twitter are badgering their club to let Coutinho go? #freecoutinho
Micky Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 Barcelona bid 80m Euros for Coutinho: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4715806/Barcelona-bid-72m-Coutinho-Liverpool-demand-more.html They can bid what they want - Liverpool are not a selling club: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40679205
Lighthouse Posted 21 July, 2017 Author Posted 21 July, 2017 They can bid what they want - Liverpool are not a selling club: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40679205 If someone offered him the chance to finish his career at Liverpool, he'd bite their arm off.
tajjuk Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 lel not a selling club, so Suarez, Torres, Xabi Alonso etc. where just surplus to requirements. Coutinho would be an idiot not to go to Barcelona, especially if they sell Neymar so he gets a slot in the team, way nicer place to live especially for a South American and a way way bigger club than Liverpool.
Faz Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 There are loads of ex-Barca player in the media saying Coutinho should go on strike to get his dream move.
mrfahaji Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 lel not a selling club, so Suarez, Torres, Xabi Alonso etc. where just surplus to requirements. Coutinho would be an idiot not to go to Barcelona, especially if they sell Neymar so he gets a slot in the team, way nicer place to live especially for a South American and a way way bigger club than Liverpool. Not just for a South American! And let's be honest, most players are nicer than Liverpool...
the saint in winchester Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 There are loads of ex-Barca player in the media saying Coutinho should go on strike to get his dream move. This made me smile
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 According to the BBC transfers site we've loaned our entire club to MK Dons. That'll wind up the Scousers...
saint1977 Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 Modern day Rory Delap Minus the odd long-range spectacular goal - e.g. that overhead kick V Spurs Was going to mention the long throws but Stoke got more benefit from those. Was an OK player who had the odd standout and poor game. Was considered pricey at £4m in 2001 - guess £16-20m is the modern equivalent fee?
Miltonaggro Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 There are loads of ex-Barca player in the media saying Coutinho should go on strike to get his dream move. Lol! No doubt the scousers will show their adoration for a favourite by doing a Gerrard - issuing death threats to him and his family whilst the club pressurise friends and acquaintances. Bestest fans in da world, dem...
Pamplemousse Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/20/arsenal-reject-16m-calum-chambers-bid-crystal-palace/ Do we have a sell-on fee?
SuperSAINT Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 Do we have a sell-on fee? We never seem to add them.
Lighthouse Posted 21 July, 2017 Author Posted 21 July, 2017 We never seem to add them. According to whom?
Cartman Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 Minus the odd long-range spectacular goal - e.g. that overhead kick V Spurs Was going to mention the long throws but Stoke got more benefit from those. Was an OK player who had the odd standout and poor game. Was considered pricey at £4m in 2001 - guess £16-20m is the modern equivalent fee? Our revenue for 2000-01 was 29.1m and for 2016-17 it is projected around 170m so in today's money Delap cost around 23m. 23m for Delap:lol:
Miltonaggro Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 Our revenue for 2000-01 was 29.1m and for 2016-17 it is projected around 170m so in today's money Delap cost around 23m. 23m for Delap:lol: Basically £11.5 million per ear!
SuperSAINT Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 £8m is pretty good business in the current market.
SuperSAINT Posted 21 July, 2017 Posted 21 July, 2017 @SkyKaveh: West Ham & Galatasaray in talks to sign Senegalese midfielder Badou N’Diaye from Turkish club Osmanlispor. Valued at £10m
SuperSAINT Posted 22 July, 2017 Posted 22 July, 2017 BREAKING: @Arsenal reject a £10m bid from @WBA for defender Kieran Gibbs, according to Sky sources
SuperSAINT Posted 23 July, 2017 Posted 23 July, 2017 @ManCity: Our fifth summer signing! Let's all #welcomedanilo to the Club
SuperSAINT Posted 24 July, 2017 Posted 24 July, 2017 @ManCity: Please welcome @benmendy23 to Manchester City! #BlueMendy
Wimborne_saint Posted 24 July, 2017 Posted 24 July, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/24/everton-back-gylfi-sigurdsson-second-bid-worth-45million/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw Everton have made a second bid worth £45m for sigurdsson
SuperSAINT Posted 24 July, 2017 Posted 24 July, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/24/everton-back-gylfi-sigurdsson-second-bid-worth-45million/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw Everton have made a second bid worth £45m for sigurdsson Crikey. I'd take that. LOL @ Pre-summer people on here saying snap him up for £20m
SuperSAINT Posted 24 July, 2017 Posted 24 July, 2017 @CPFC: TRANSFER: The club announce that Jairo Riedewald has completed his transfer to #CPFC from @AFCAjax_EN #RiedewaldIsOurs
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