Singapore Saint Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 http://readsouthampton.com/2017/05/30/tuchel-claimed-line-replace-puel/ So says a French journo with a fair bit of confidence. Makes me wonder though if Tuchel was so good, why St-Etienne aren't chasing after him instead of Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I discussed this in the other thread This is precisely what the journalist says in the video "[Tuchel] serait en pôle pour remplacer Puel à Southampton" Tuchel is in pole position to replace Puel at Southampton For those who know their grammar, 'serait' = 'to be' conjugated in the conditional (would be), but using the conditional is a common feature in French journalism, and implies that the source is unconfirmed and/or unreliable. So, until there is a report about it in newspapers in Germany, France or over here, rather than a Saints fan website, it's not really anything to get excited about. On the other hand, this journalist may have a massive scoop, but if he did, surely he'd share it first with the organisation for whom we works (France Football). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Saw this rumor on facebook. I honestly think that there is absolutely no chance of us getting Tuchel. He'll have better offers imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 http://readsouthampton.com/2017/05/30/tuchel-claimed-line-replace-puel/ So says a French journo with a fair bit of confidence. Makes me wonder though if Tuchel was so good, why St-Etienne aren't chasing after him instead of Puel. I'd have more confidence if it was from a German journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I think Southampton are exactly what Tuchel wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Tuchel is going Leverkusen...Close Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 (edited) I think Southampton are exactly what Tuchel wants. Not so sure. He was very upset the board sold Dortmund's three best players last summer and brought in younger players who had potential but could immediately fill the hole. He tends to fall out with the hierarchy (which happened both at Mainz and Dortmund), so not sure if he'd get on with our strategy or even Uncle Les. Edited 31 May, 2017 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I won't believe it until AR-10 is on here pretending he broke the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I'm no expert on German club football - are Leverkusen a that much bigger draw than Saints would be for Tuchel, apart from the fact they are in Germany? I assume he has ambitions to manage in other big European leagues so Saints may be considered a good move at this point for him rather than a similar sized club in Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I won't believe it until AR-10 is on here pretending he broke the story. But what if he knows it FOR A FACT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Not so sure. He was very upset the board sold Dortmund's three best players last summer and brought in younger players who had potential but could immediately fill the hole. He tends to fall out with the hierarchy (which happened both at Mainz and Dortmund), so not sure if he'd get on with our strategy or even Uncle Les. On paper he looks good, but seems to fall out with club hierarchy everywhere and also more worryingly with players. Not the ideal man to take over in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 This wouldn't be a Les appointment.... No chance Our best hope is the takeover is more advanced and they actually have ambitions. Sadly unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 On paper he looks good, but seems to fall out with club hierarchy everywhere and also more worryingly with players. Not the ideal man to take over in my view. Only been at two clubs, hardly a journeyman. Although in fairness his departure from Mainz was clearly not amicable, to the point he was placed on gardening leave rather than allowed to move on immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Stranger things have happen. Saints, despite the doom and gloom on the mongboard, are a great option for managers looking to make their mark in the EPL. Constantly top 10, great reputation in the game, well resourced and a clear philosophy. And to that the fact that there is no top strata clubs looking for managers. Have 2 great years at Saints nd then take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Would be exciting signing. Don't expect it although no Top6 are going to have managerial vacancies. For a manager the PL is the place to be and for all the hype we do now have all the superstar managers. #bestoftherest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Come here for two years, then leave for Arsenal when Wenger retires...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Stranger things have happen. Saints, despite the doom and gloom on the mongboard, are a great option for managers looking to make their mark in the EPL. Constantly top 10, great reputation in the game, well resourced and a clear philosophy. And to that the fact that there is no top strata clubs looking for managers. Have 2 great years at Saints nd then take your pick. Exactly this. We do ourßelves a disservice very often on here because of our emotional attachment. From a purely sporting logical point of view we are indeed a very attractive proposition for an ambitious coach. For a coach who manages rather than an older school type manager who coaches (Redknapp type for example) we have the ideal philosophy and set up. Develop, develop, develop. What I've read about Tuchel seems to suggest a great match. Here's hopìng!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Come here for two years, then leave for Arsenal when Wenger retires...? So what I say. Thats the norm when any manager or player is too good for this club. Until Kelvin Davis or Paul Tisdale become good at management may we find stability in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I'm no expert on German club football - are Leverkusen a that much bigger draw than Saints would be for Tuchel, apart from the fact they are in Germany? I assume he has ambitions to manage in other big European leagues so Saints may be considered a good move at this point for him rather than a similar sized club in Germany? I don't follow foreign football but they've always struck me as their version of Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Interesting piece here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4555416/How-Thomas-Tuchel-fell-Borussia-Dortmund.html Seems he lost the dressing room, fell out with the CEO and never really bonded with the fans..he did win a lot of games though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Interesting piece here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4555416/How-Thomas-Tuchel-fell-Borussia-Dortmund.html Seems he lost the dressing room, fell out with the CEO and never really bonded with the fans..he did win a lot of games though. Can't believe our fans won't warm to him. No history of nit being satisfied easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Interesting piece here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4555416/How-Thomas-Tuchel-fell-Borussia-Dortmund.html Seems he lost the dressing room, fell out with the CEO and never really bonded with the fans..he did win a lot of games though. Won`t fit in here then ..oh wait ... just read the last bit in bold so he will be ok as that`s what everyone really wants if they are honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Can't believe our fans won't warm to him. No history of nit being satisfied easily In fairness to Tuchel he had to follow on from the Klopp Clown so almost anyone is going to seem boring after that. If he was following on from Puel it should be much easier for him to seem interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Dortmund board have realesed a letter giving their side. "It is not the result alone that matters," chief executive Hans-Joachim Watzke wrote in an open letter to fans. "What also matters are fundamental values such as trust and respect." http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40099013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I would have thought he would want a team that was playing Champions League no matter what country they are from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Interesting piece here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4555416/How-Thomas-Tuchel-fell-Borussia-Dortmund.html Seems he lost the dressing room, fell out with the CEO and never really bonded with the fans..he did win a lot of games though. Surely this completely contradicts what Always claims so it can't possibly be true . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/45780/ Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Yesterday's one line suggestion by a French journalist has it's own thread here and is an actual article on the UI. Can't wait to see how it evolves tomorrow. Should be the back page of every red top and by Sunday the main story in the broadsheet's sports supplements'. Touch of escalation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Won`t fit in here then ..oh wait ... just read the last bit in bold so he will be ok as that`s what everyone really wants if they are honest Have you just suggested you don't want to win games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3687981/southampton-new-manager-thomas-tuchel/ http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/811325/Thomas-Tuchel-Southampton-Claude-Puel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Article on his fall out: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/borussia-dortmund-thomas-tuchel-exit-10529357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I won't believe it until AR-10 is on here pretending he broke the story. We'll have to wait until after he's signed for that gem to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Interesting piece here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4555416/How-Thomas-Tuchel-fell-Borussia-Dortmund.html Seems he lost the dressing room, fell out with the CEO and never really bonded with the fans..he did win a lot of games though. Hard to achieve the equivalent of a 67% (ish) win rate with a "lost" dressing room. Let alone a cup run and final win. Not sure I'd buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I think the argument is that he lost the board, not as much the dressing room. One of the key instigators was the re-arranged UCL game after the bombing, he apparently didn't feel he was consulted by the club before they agreed to the hastily rearranged fixture. I would imagine any player discontent would be coming from people who didn't play and wanted to play etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Won`t fit in here then ..oh wait ... just read the last bit in bold so he will be ok as that`s what everyone really wants if they are honest Christ, you are weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3687981/southampton-new-manager-thomas-tuchel/ http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/811325/Thomas-Tuchel-Southampton-Claude-Puel That didn't take long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3687981/southampton-new-manager-thomas-tuchel/ http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/811325/Thomas-Tuchel-Southampton-Claude-Puel would have to be a massive shift in club policy for Tuchel to come in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 would have to be a massive shift in club policy for Tuchel to come in Hate to know what the club policy is that would rule out a young, highly regarded coach who mas managed at the top level. Why settle for that when you could have Gary Monk ey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Have you just suggested you don't want to win games? Nope just suggested that despite the whinning on here about the "style" and "we would rather lose in style" hors shyt all everyone wants is wins including me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Nope just suggested that despite the whinning on here about the "style" and "we would rather lose in style" hors shyt all everyone wants is wins including me Funny, its as if you imagine there's no connection at all between the quality of football played and the probability of getting good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I think the argument is that he lost the board, not as much the dressing room. One of the key instigators was the re-arranged UCL game after the bombing, he apparently didn't feel he was consulted by the club before they agreed to the hastily rearranged fixture. I would imagine any player discontent would be coming from people who didn't play and wanted to play etc. apparently not This weekend, Sahin was once again at the heart of a dispute, after Tuchel left him out of the squad for the final. The decision was openly criticised by other players after the game, even as Dortmund celebrated their first title in five years. 'When Julian Weigl is injured, Nuri is the only one who can really replace him properly in defensive midfield,' said captain Marcel Schmelzer. 'It really shocked me, I didn't understand it at all. The coach would have to explain why he did it. We all completely stand behind Nuri.' With such open criticism from his own captain just hours after the cup triumph, Tuchel must have already begun to pack his bags. his own captain come out and critisiced his team selection after they had just won the cup final. That's a whole new level over Puel's lost dressing room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 apparently not This weekend, Sahin was once again at the heart of a dispute, after Tuchel left him out of the squad for the final. The decision was openly criticised by other players after the game, even as Dortmund celebrated their first title in five years. 'When Julian Weigl is injured, Nuri is the only one who can really replace him properly in defensive midfield,' said captain Marcel Schmelzer. 'It really shocked me, I didn't understand it at all. The coach would have to explain why he did it. We all completely stand behind Nuri.' With such open criticism from his own captain just hours after the cup triumph, Tuchel must have already begun to pack his bags. his own captain come out and critisiced his team selection after they had just won the cup final. That's a whole new level over Puel's lost dressing room... That is amazing. Dortmund have got a problem if the players are that arrogant. Manager wins the cup, and players come out and say they know better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Nope just suggested that despite the whinning on here about the "style" and "we would rather lose in style" hors shyt all everyone wants is wins including me TBF Puel has not nelivered on either.... Style or wins Hes averages 3 wins for every 10 games. And his style is horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 apparently not This weekend, Sahin was once again at the heart of a dispute, after Tuchel left him out of the squad for the final. The decision was openly criticised by other players after the game, even as Dortmund celebrated their first title in five years. 'When Julian Weigl is injured, Nuri is the only one who can really replace him properly in defensive midfield,' said captain Marcel Schmelzer. 'It really shocked me, I didn't understand it at all. The coach would have to explain why he did it. We all completely stand behind Nuri.' With such open criticism from his own captain just hours after the cup triumph, Tuchel must have already begun to pack his bags. his own captain come out and critisiced his team selection after they had just won the cup final. That's a whole new level over Puel's lost dressing room... I would still be enthused by Tuchel as many on here are by Puel despite similar stories. I guess if he was perfect we would have absolutely no chance of landing him. Mind you I still don't think he'll come here but would be happy if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 TBF Puel has not nelivered on either.... Style or wins Hes averages 3 wins for every 10 games. And his style is horrendous Did not mention Puel but understand you have to get a dig in on every post, i posted about the style being more important than wins to some but of course its not true just bluster.. For the record, i think Tuchel would be a good fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 That's a whole new level over Puel's lost dressing room...Normally with lost dressing rooms you see the players not trying and being on the end of some heavy defeats. Now of course it could be that our shot shy midfield and forwards decided to miss the target in the last 5 games as a protest against CP, but would we know the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 That is amazing. Dortmund have got a problem if the players are that arrogant. Manager wins the cup, and players come out and say they know better than him. I think you'll find that the players won the cup, not the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Hate to know what the club policy is that would rule out a young, highly regarded coach who mas managed at the top level. Why settle for that when you could have Gary Monk ey! les reed interference and what players get signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 I think you'll find that the players won the cup, not the manager. Just like it's the players that have underperformed this season then, not the manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 31 May, 2017 Share Posted 31 May, 2017 Are his interviews entertaining? After all, that's really important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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