Lighthouse Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 (edited) Saints just tweeted Martina Isgrove (finally) Willard Caceres All released Edited 25 May, 2017 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Caceres (potentially) earn't £1.5 million for 90 minute of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Caceres (potentially) earn't £1.5 million for 90 minute of work Irrelevant tbf. Our f*ck up by not bringing in someone else in the window who can cover, and they wouldnt have expected Stephens to do as well as he has. No problem from me. Isgrove, no idea why we kept him for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 May, 2017 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Glasgow sticking with the 'we paid £100k a week for an injured player who hasn't played for over a year and hasn't had a contract for 6 months' routine, I see. He did his job, he was there if needed. You don't sell a car and moan that you wasted all that money on seatbelts and airbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Glasgow sticking with the 'we paid £100k a week for an injured player who hasn't played for over a year and hasn't had a contract for 6 months' routine, I see. He did his job, he was there if needed. You don't sell a car and moan that you wasted all that money on seatbelts and airbags. Exactly this. I am sure he would have been a decent player should he have been needed in the starting 11, but the fact is Stephens came in and did a good job. Much prefer to have seen the development of someone from within the club rather than stunting his development and playing Crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Only 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Caceres (potentially) earn't £1.5 million for 90 minute of work Course he didn't.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Ah yes, Caceres. Proven international defender called up again by his country. Definitely not good enough for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Why is Caceres not being retained, a genuine world class defender? Cannot understand this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Isgrove, no idea why we kept him for so long. He's been out on loan a lot to be fair (including winning the FL Trophy twice), and when we did actually try to offload him to Bristol City in January he got injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Ah yes, Caceres. Proven international defender called up again by his country. Definitely not good enough for Saints. I don't think he ever wanted to sign after the comments from his agent when he came on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 May, 2017 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Why is Caceres not being retained, a genuine world class defender? Cannot understand this! If that's the case he has probably accepted an offer from a genuinely world class club. If Barca, Bayern or Man Utd have come in with a large contract, he's obviously going to go there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Glasgow sticking with the 'we paid £100k a week for an injured player who hasn't played for over a year and hasn't had a contract for 6 months' routine, I see. He did his job, he was there if needed. You don't sell a car and moan that you wasted all that money on seatbelts and airbags. Good analogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Perhaps Cáceres doesn't want to be here? In any case, we've got VVD, Yoshida and Stephens for next season, and we were always going to sign another CB anyway (probably a younger one), so there's no room for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 I don't think he ever wanted to sign after the comments from his agent when he came on loan. He did not come on loan. How many more times. He was here on a short term contract, shame he is not being retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Perhaps Cáceres doesn't want to be here? In any case, we've got VVD, Yoshida and Stephens for next season, and we were always going to sign another CB anyway (probably a younger one), so there's no room for him. Gardos is still there as well at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Perhaps Cáceres doesn't want to be here? In any case, we've got VVD, Yoshida and Stephens for next season, and we were always going to sign another CB anyway (probably a younger one), so there's no room for him. You really believe VvD will be here next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Presumably this means that a contract will have been offered to Jason McCarthy who I believe was out of contract this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 What about that useless signing Stuart Taylor the one we didn't risk against Arsenal and put poor Lewis to the slaughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Saints just tweeted Martina Isgrove (finally) Willard Caceres All released This presumably means that "end of season review" has taken place. No managerial situation tweets yet then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Saints just tweeted Martina Isgrove (finally) Willard Caceres All released Well, that's 4 of the players who are out of contract being released - who else's deal runs out this summer? Wouldn't be surprised to see us negotiating with Caceres at a lower rate some time around mid-July if no-one signs him, as backups go he's better than Gardos... whose contract runs out in 2018 btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Caceres (potentially) earn't £1.5 million for 90 minute of work No he didn't. Stop being a muppet Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 (edited) This presumably means that "end of season review" has taken place. No managerial situation tweets yet then? They'll have made the decisions on who was and wasn't being retained weeks ago. Most disappointed Martina's off, he's the best player called Rhu-endly Aurelio Jean-Carlo who's ever played for Saints. Edited 25 May, 2017 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Well, that's 4 of the players who are out of contract being released - who else's deal runs out this summer? Wouldn't be surprised to see us negotiating with Caceres at a lower rate some time around mid-July if no-one signs him, as backups go he's better than Gardos... whose contract runs out in 2018 btw. So The9, you reckon its a strong possibilty that Caceres could yet stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 So The9, you reckon its a strong possibilty that Caceres could yet stay I don't think it's a "strong possibility", I think it's possible if we got him cheaper. We'd have to negotiate him downwards to make it a viable deal though, and we can't do that without releasing him first. There's also the possibility we end up looking for an out of contract centre back on Sep 1st after some last minute mentalism from Man City too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Well, that's 4 of the players who are out of contract being released - who else's deal runs out this summer? Wouldn't be surprised to see us negotiating with Caceres at a lower rate some time around mid-July if no-one signs him, as backups go he's better than Gardos... whose contract runs out in 2018 btw. Aha! Thanks, this thread. 2017 Mouez Hassen (end of loan) Stuart Taylor Cuco Martina Martin Cáceres Jason McCarthy Jake Flannigan Lloyd Isgrove Ending scholarship Neal Osborn Connor Langan Rugare Musendo Archie Thomas Dan N'Lundulu Siph Mdlalose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Would have like to see a back four of Cacares, Yoshida, Van Dijk and Bertrand. Best of luck to all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Would have like to see a back four of Cacares, Yoshida, Van Dijk and Bertrand. Best of luck to all of them Whhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? It would have serious "controlling the ball 4 yards in front of you" potential, that's fo' sho'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Would be very surprised if Taylor and Flannigan are being kept on. Have either of them ever played for us? I guess Flannigan may have got 10 mins as a sub in a cup. Glad to see McCarthy not on the list, looks like he has potential (now watch him be sold)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harriesss Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Would be very surprised if Taylor and Flannigan are being kept on. Have either of them ever played for us? I guess Flannigan may have got 10 mins as a sub in a cup. Glad to see McCarthy not on the list, looks like he has potential (now watch him be sold)! Flannigan has had a terrible time with injuries but has never played and only featured on the bench once against Everton 2 seasons ago, but a surprise they've kept him on. Taylor I can only imagine has been kept for the same role or is taking a coaching role they're yet to announce. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Flannigan has had a terrible time with injuries but has never played and only featured on the bench once against Everton 2 seasons ago, but a surprise they've kept him on. Taylor I can only imagine has been kept for the same role or is taking a coaching role they're yet to announce. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Taylor same role...whats that sat on his arse bench warming and praying he never plays...look at his record in the last 5 years . I cannot believe we cannot find a better keeper. Hassen scares the ebbejeebies out of me....not sure he has any hands on the end of his wrists as they all go through, round and under him. I think if McCarthy had been fit we would have had more points and Forster could have been rested a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Taylor same role...whats that sat on his arse bench warming and praying he never plays...look at his record in the last 5 years . I cannot believe we cannot find a better keeper. Hassen scares the ebbejeebies out of me....not sure he has any hands on the end of his wrists as they all go through, round and under him. I think if McCarthy had been fit we would have had more points and Forster could have been rested a few weeks. I would imagine this comes down to the need to have a keeper on the bench for emergencies, but when the U23s have a game the same day, they can't use the same keeper for that. Which implies that the hierarchy goes 1st team keeper U23 keeper 1st team bench U23 bench rather than 1st team keeper and bench, U23 team keeper and bench. The U23 backup might also be behind the U18 starter too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Would be very surprised if Taylor and Flannigan are being kept on. Have either of them ever played for us? I guess Flannigan may have got 10 mins as a sub in a cup. Glad to see McCarthy not on the list, looks like he has potential (now watch him be sold)! Is it not the case that as a development player, if we don't offer contract then we don't get the development fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Glasgow sticking with the 'we paid £100k a week for an injured player who hasn't played for over a year and hasn't had a contract for 6 months' routine, I see. He did his job, he was there if needed. You don't sell a car and moan that you wasted all that money on seatbelts and airbags. Plus insurance that you didn't use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Glasgow sticking with the 'we paid £100k a week for an injured player who hasn't played for over a year and hasn't had a contract for 6 months' routine, I see. He did his job, he was there if needed. You don't sell a car and moan that you wasted all that money on seatbelts and airbags. More to the point there is no way we payed him that much. His salary would've been weighted to pay as you play hence why we didn't play him much. In fact, he (and maybe we) probably expected to play him more but for the emergence of Jack Stephens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 At least Caceres leaving frees up some almighty wages from the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Isgrove, no idea why we kept him for so long. I have. He's actually a really tidy little player. Technically quite good. Always showed promise and it was his hard work that kept getting him one year extensions. That said, Saints, it seems is not his level. Stayed little in stature and that probably went against him. Will do very well in a top half Championship Club. Would not be surprised to see him in the Premier league again with a smaller club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 I have. He's actually a really tidy little player. Technically quite good. Always showed promise and it was his hard work that kept getting him one year extensions. That said, Saints, it seems is not his level. Stayed little in stature and that probably went against him. Will do very well in a top half Championship Club. Would not be surprised to see him in the Premier league again with a smaller club. Always starts off looking great for us in Pre-season, then drops. He was very good at Barnsley. Where did he nearly join in the January window but for injury? Was it Bristol City? He just needs to make sure he gets the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 This presumably means that "end of season review" has taken place. No managerial situation tweets yet then? Of course not Les Greed will never admit he screwed up big time by signing Puel so Puel will stay unless he resigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Harley @HarleyWillard Thank you to everyone @SouthamptonFC for the last 4 years, wish you all the best for the future #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Of course not Les Greed will never admit he screwed up big time by signing Puel so Puel will stay unless he resigns. You really are a tediously, boring ****. Try acting your age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 May, 2017 Author Share Posted 25 May, 2017 I don't think it's a "strong possibility", I think it's possible if we got him cheaper. We'd have to negotiate him downwards to make it a viable deal though, and we can't do that without releasing him first. There's also the possibility we end up looking for an out of contract centre back on Sep 1st after some last minute mentalism from Man City too... I don't think we'd have put out a press release saying he was being released if we were negotiating any sort of deal behind the scenes. I think we'd have just said nothing until we'd come to a more definitive conclusion. On that subject, Stuart Taylor hasn't been released despite being out of contract. Perhaps he is getting another deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Presumably this means that a contract will have been offered to Jason McCarthy who I believe was out of contract this summer? Hope so. He's done really well during his last 2 loan stints. Can't get better than being voted as player of the season for 2 different clubs, 2 years running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Of course not Les Greed will never admit he screwed up big time by signing Puel so Puel will stay unless he resigns. Well, let's just wait and see shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scousesaint84 Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Would be very surprised if Taylor and Flannigan are being kept on. Have either of them ever played for us? I guess Flannigan may have got 10 mins as a sub in a cup. Glad to see McCarthy not on the list, looks like he has potential (now watch him be sold)! Had a chat with jakes cousin the other day and he said that the club have stuck by him through his injury recovery (similar to jay rods injury) and they rate him quite highly. Also he said they feel he has remaind very grounded compared to some of the other development squad players. His attitude and outlook might earn him a season to prove himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 At least Caceres leaving frees up some almighty wages from the wage bill. Yes an no. If he was only signed on a short term contract as cover then his total wage bill would have been fixed at the outset. pity, I would have liked to have seen him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Thanks for the memories Caceres- it's been one hell of a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Thanks for the memories Caceres- it's been one hell of a ride. not a bad gig. Probably got paid circa £750k for 6 months training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 not a bad gig. Probably got paid circa £750k for 6 months training And Les got his promotion. A win-win all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2017 Share Posted 25 May, 2017 Thanks for the memories Caceres- it's been one hell of a ride. Said the jail bait girls of Southampton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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