Toomer Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 The rags were there for the taking tonight, Puels system is so negative 17 goals scored at home tells the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Jack Stephens is becoming a great player. Alongside VVD next season will be good as both of them can bring the ball forward pretty well. Apart from LC and Inter win, Jack is easily the highlight of this season. Still think we need to bring another CH in though, even if VVD stays. Yoshida surpassed himself this year but still a PL 4th choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 There is definitely a negative bandwagon developing here ! I thoughtwe did ok tonight on a very wet pitch against some top players (forget the reserves bit, they were all expensive internationals). 17 shots with 6 on target, good saves from their keeper too ! Seen a lot worse in my day ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Realised about 10 minutes after posting that . Simply can't be ar$ed to learn how to edit though. It's on the right hand side once you've posted - handy option with my typing skills (or lack of!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Thought most of his saves were pretty routine, wouldn't put any of them in the top drawer category. We'll I bet our keeper couldn't have pulled any of them off.... His save for JWPs curled effort looked pretty good in real time to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Was the Bertrand omission an injury??? He was rested like Cedric was on Saturday and was sat in a box in the Itchen/Chapel coner. Long was there too with some sort of cast/support on his foot so we won't be seeing him on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 awa on business and alking to fans from other clubs and they are in disbelievement that we are sitting 8th and thinking of getting rid of the manger. 'What do we expect; was the comment Amen to this.....Saints played really well tonight: especially in the 2nd half. Only an inspired goalkeeping display stopped us getting 3 points and I would just like us to play with that attacking verve more at home. If we can next season could be good. I am stunned that there is any talk of Puel losing his job and the phrase 'be careful what you wish for' springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 There is definitely a negative bandwagon developing here ! I thoughtwe did ok tonight on a very wet pitch against some top players (forget the reserves bit, they were all expensive internationals). 17 shots with 6 on target, good saves from their keeper too ! Seen a lot worse in my day ! Your first sentence is correct alright - what is it, 6 goals in a dozen or more home games now? Negative is definitely the right word to use for that. Our midfield now plays like a bunch of insurance brokers - no risks. Poor Gabbiadini - such a great start and those instinctive finishes. Now drained of all confidence. Could you see him scoring that brilliant goal v W Ham now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 We'll I bet our keeper couldn't have pulled any of them off.... His save for JWPs curled effort looked pretty good in real time to me. From the Kingsland it looked like he got both hands to it though he was at full stretch. They were there for the taking but we couldn't keep them under pressure for long enough to get the break through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 There is definitely a negative bandwagon developing here ! I thoughtwe did ok tonight on a very wet pitch against some top players (forget the reserves bit, they were all expensive internationals). 17 shots with 6 on target, good saves from their keeper too ! Seen a lot worse in my day ! Exactly. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Late to the ground so like Gabbi, I missed the penalty. Why was it given? We had a really good spell in that second half but any decent shot we put towards goal found their keeper in fine form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Played well, probably deserved to win, point is decent but feels like it should have been more, especially with their keeper being MotM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Late to the ground so like Gabbi, I missed the penalty. Why was it given? We had a really good spell in that second half but any decent shot we put towards goal found their keeper in fine form. It was given for handball around the half way line. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 What is up with some of the clueless c**ts on here? How on earth could you say that was dull negative tactics from Puel - in the 2nd half we really went for it and should have won comfortably but for abject finishing (as all season) and some excellent saves. While not understanding taking JWP off Boufal made a big difference when he came on and if he can consistently play like that without ball hogging we should see some exciting stuff from him next season. Incredible - top half finish guaranteed (and likely 8th) and people are still moaning about Puel and want him pout to be replaced by a nobody such as Silva who just got relegated and certainly did not play attacking exciting stuff. Our finishing this season has been abject which is a big difference. So many of you c**ts were calling for Koemans head when we had that awful run last season and were truly boring other teams to death and getting lucky with 1-0 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Late to the ground so like Gabbi, I missed the penalty. Why was it given? We had a really good spell in that second half but any decent shot we put towards goal found their keeper in fine form. Handball. Kind of amusing at half time when the bloke was talking about the charity penalties and how he had spent an afternoon getting tips on penalty taking from the saints players at Staplewood..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 This is probably the best we've played at home against Man Utd since we've been in the Premier League Against the worst man united team to play here in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Amen to this.....Saints played really well tonight: especially in the 2nd half. Only an inspired goalkeeping display stopped us getting 3 points and I would just like us to play with that attacking verve more at home. If we can next season could be good. I am stunned that there is any talk of Puel losing his job and the phrase 'be careful what you wish for' springs to mind. This seems to be the standard response from Puel's fan club - their keeper was world class. No, he was solid but nothing more. We've got used to Fraser this season. After so few goals and entertainment at home - it was long trip back after the Hull home game and that's been the norm - anyone who is stunned about Puel's future being under question hasn't been reading the football press at all recently or seen Ralph's latest musings, not to mention the slack ST take up thus far. The Club are clearly reviewing their options and far from convinced. Claude himself may want to move on too don't forget. One thing I do agree with on - there's no guarantee SFC will get a sound replacement until the takeover saga is sorted. Les Reed's call either way but the mood music from the club is hardly supportive. I would prepare for disappointment shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 We'll I bet our keeper couldn't have pulled any of them off.... His save for JWPs curled effort looked pretty good in real time to me. From where i was sat, it looked like all of his saves were very good. He was the MOTM for me, and when you play United and their keeper gets MOTM, you must be doing something right. A win against Stoke and i would consider that a pretty strong end to the season. Lack of goals is a concern. It looks like we just lack confidence in front of goal, which is probably why we've missed the last 3 penalties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 What is up with some of the clueless c**ts on here? How on earth could you say that was dull negative tactics from Puel - in the 2nd half we really went for it and should have won comfortably but for abject finishing (as all season) and some excellent saves. While not understanding taking JWP off Boufal made a big difference when he came on and if he can consistently play like that without ball hogging we should see some exciting stuff from him next season. Incredible - top half finish guaranteed (and likely 8th) and people are still moaning about Puel and want him pout to be replaced by a nobody such as Silva who just got relegated and certainly did not play attacking exciting stuff. Our finishing this season has been abject which is a big difference. So many of you c**ts were calling for Koemans head when we had that awful run last season and were truly boring other teams to death and getting lucky with 1-0 wins. You realise it's the Manager that has to sort the "abject finishing" right? If we hadn't been saying this all season it wouldn't be an issue but fact is we've tried endless combinations since day 1 of the season and our finishing has been consistently crap. Even Gabbi seems to have had his confidence drained. Only constant is Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 (edited) Against the worst man united team to play here in the premier league. Still a team chocked with internationals though I'd have taken their keeper, Mata, Rashford and Martial from that team tonight and put them in saints shirts easily. Edited 17 May, 2017 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 What is up with some of the clueless c**ts on here? How on earth could you say that was dull negative tactics from Puel - in the 2nd half we really went for it and should have won comfortably but for abject finishing (as all season) and some excellent saves. While not understanding taking JWP off Boufal made a big difference when he came on and if he can consistently play like that without ball hogging we should see some exciting stuff from him next season. Incredible - top half finish guaranteed (and likely 8th) and people are still moaning about Puel and want him pout to be replaced by a nobody such as Silva who just got relegated and certainly did not play attacking exciting stuff. Our finishing this season has been abject which is a big difference. So many of you c**ts were calling for Koemans head when we had that awful run last season and were truly boring other teams to death and getting lucky with 1-0 wins. Don't know what time zone you are in but chill and have a beer. It's only football. It's an emotional industry, hence some of the posts but would suggest calling people who don't agree with you c***s isn't going to stimulate constructive responses. Pampelmousse is actually quite witty and dry tonight. Anyway, it's the club's decision either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 You realise it's the Manager that has to sort the "abject finishing" right? If we hadn't been saying this all season it wouldn't be an issue but fact is we've tried endless combinations since day 1 of the season and our finishing has been consistently crap. Even Gabbi seems to have had his confidence drained. Only constant is Puel. What he has drilled them on the training ground to be **** at pens and shoot badly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 As Jamie Redknapp said before the game - 'careful what you wish for'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 As Jamie Redknapp said before the game - 'careful what you wish for'!! Footballs an entertainment business. I will take my chances thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Don't know what time zone you are in but chill and have a beer. It's only football. It's an emotional industry, hence some of the posts but would suggest calling people who don't agree with you c***s isn't going to stimulate constructive responses. Pampelmousse is actually quite witty and dry tonight. Anyway, it's the club's decision either way. Only quite?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 What he has drilled them on the training ground to be **** at pens and shoot badly... I'm not saying that but you can't tell me that it's all down to the players. Just look at Gabbi, came in and was scoring out of nothing and given a couple of weeks of SFC coaching and he also can't hit a cows arse. But sure, it's all down to the players and nothing to do with the coaching they receive 5 days a week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 From where i was sat, it looked like all of his saves were very good. He was the MOTM for me, and when you play United and their keeper gets MOTM, you must be doing something right. A win against Stoke and i would consider that a pretty strong end to the season. Lack of goals is a concern. It looks like we just lack confidence in front of goal, which is probably why we've missed the last 3 penalties! Not just the strikers' fault though; midfield needs a major overhaul bar Oriol and JWP. They also need positive encouragement to take risks and express themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Only quite?! Granted, the 25-0 post was quality :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 It was a bit like watching a European game of chess between the 2 managers. Stalemate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 What is up with some of the clueless c**ts on here? How on earth could you say that was dull negative tactics from Puel - in the 2nd half we really went for it and should have won comfortably but for abject finishing (as all season) and some excellent saves. While not understanding taking JWP off Boufal made a big difference when he came on and if he can consistently play like that without ball hogging we should see some exciting stuff from him next season. Incredible - top half finish guaranteed (and likely 8th) and people are still moaning about Puel and want him pout to be replaced by a nobody such as Silva who just got relegated and certainly did not play attacking exciting stuff. Our finishing this season has been abject which is a big difference. So many of you c**ts were calling for Koemans head when we had that awful run last season and were truly boring other teams to death and getting lucky with 1-0 wins. Football is played over 90 mins and in the first 45 we didn't show up, we didn't press and didn't get the crowd going. Atmosphere was shocking again and it has been for the majority of the season. Didn't you notice how we dropped off after taking gabby off? Every time we make subs we totally lose the flow of the game and that's poor work on the training pitch. Agree boufal could be quality but puel plays him out of position, continually pulls him in and out the team. Anyway league position flatters due to some very poor teams in the league this year. Puel has tried but I can't stomach another season of crab football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Our home support really is weird, some just go along to boo and moan, away games a better crack than ever. If we could finish/take a penalty, that'd be a few more points on the board, not much Puel can do about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy9143 Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 He was rested like Cedric was on Saturday and was sat in a box in the Itchen/Chapel coner. Long was there too with some sort of cast/support on his foot so we won't be seeing him on Sunday. I'm just waiting for someone will tell us that Virgil was watching the game from a Man Utd box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 In most circumstances I'd be happy with a point against United, but the disappointing thing tonight is that they were there for the taking and again we lacked the killer instinct in the final third to finish the job. Anyone that thinks we played **** needs their eyes testing, we were great at the back and getting it through the middle, something just isn't working up top. Think we need a new striker coach to work on that part of our game, to have gone six hours without scoring at home is dreadful. Frustrating that Puel only seems to sub like for like rather than changing the system. Shame that dead ball specialist JWP wasn't standing over that penalty as the mood would probably be a lot different on here, although to assume it would have stayed 1-0 would be foolish. On a side note does anyone know when we last scored from a corner? Never understand the big roar that goes up each time the ref signals for one, only to see our team of short arses out jumped for the ball, assuming it even makes it into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Good performance, tactically superior, let down by gash execution in the final third. Puel let down by the players again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Nice right up here http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/southampton-0-manchester-united-0-stand-in-romero-shines-in-de-geas-absence/ar-BBBflDf?li=AA572I&ocid=spartandhp interesting stat at the end Southampton had six shots on target – only Tottenham (7 on Sunday) have had more in a match against United this season in all competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Our home support really is weird, some just go along to boo and moan, away games a better crack than ever. If we could finish/take a penalty, that'd be a few more points on the board, not much Puel can do about that. Yes there is. He could play the one guy in the side with a high score rate at penalties. Instead he is sat on the bench. I would have brought him on when the penalty was awarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Good performance, tactically superior, let down by gash execution in the final third. Puel let down by the players again. Get the slogan right - it's officially 'turd in the final third'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 In most circumstances I'd be happy with a point against United, but the disappointing thing tonight is that they were there for the taking and again we lacked the killer instinct in the final third to finish the job. Anyone that thinks we played **** needs their eyes testing, we were great at the back and getting it through the middle, something just isn't working up top. Think we need a new striker coach to work on that part of our game, to have gone six hours without scoring at home is dreadful. Frustrating that Puel only seems to sub like for like rather than changing the system. Shame that dead ball specialist JWP wasn't standing over that penalty as the mood would probably be a lot different on here, although to assume it would have stayed 1-0 would be foolish. On a side note does anyone know when we last scored from a corner? Never understand the big roar that goes up each time the ref signals for one, only to see our team of short arses out jumped for the ball, assuming it even makes it into the box. In fairness though we were on top there was no need to change the system it was more a case of trying to get someone to apply a finish I would have though Austin would he been a better option than Jrod in that context tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 I only saw the second half, apparently first half was pretty poor but I didn't think second was too bad. Still a bit frustrating though. Easy in hindsight to be critical of Gabbiadini taking penalties, but I thought he had an excellent record from the spot and don't think any would question he is usually a good finisher! Was impressed with Stephens today, though the fact United didn't really seem to be bothered meant his weaknesses (heading & positioning) weren't exposed. Targett on the other hand, was pretty dreadful. It may well have been different if we'd had Bertrand or even McQueen on the left. Obviously it's good he's fit again and is probably harsh to write him off after one game back though. Was expecting Tadic to have his usual terrible game, especially when I read some of the comments on the match thread, but he kept the ball pretty well and was looking for opportunities. Boufal looks like he is learning - he was looking for a pass a fair bit but most of the time there was so little running he may as well have carried on! Redmond was good until about 70 mins, after which he was shocking. Put it down to tiredness. I'm usually sceptical of JWP but thought he played well. He should be kept on 'crossing' free kicks but let someone else have shooting ones. Rodriguez continues to be dreadful. Around 77 mins was a classic case. Tadic picks up the ball in Saints' half, beats a man, looks up... no run, so keeps going. Beats another man, looks up, no run, keeps going. Eventually Rodriguez makes a run, and then stops just as Tadic is looking to make the pass, and Tadic keeps going. Shortly after, with the ball on the right with Pied (I think), Rodriguez calls for it on the edge of the area in a couple of yards of space. Pied makes the pass straight to his feet, but Rodriguez stands there on his heels waiting for it, and the United defenders nips in and clears it away. ARGH! Overall it might have been a decent performance, but there's only so many times you can use ineffectiveness in the final third to deflect responsibility from the manager rather than direct it at him. For a while our lack of striker meant that it was easy to excuse, but not now. And if the reason is "if only we had Gabbiadini on in the second half", then surely the question is "so why did Puel take him off?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 a draw with Utd, not a terrible result, think some people here think we have only achieved if we are unbeaten all season!! i dont even think we need to strengthen to much in the close season, this season we have had alot of injury issues, to key players, if they had all remained fit, we would be giving Roko the big middle finger, we need to "keep you know who" and have a little faith!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Why all the *****ing? We are now 1 pt clear in the battle for Big 8th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Against the worst man united team to play here in the premier league. Behave. Smalling, Carrick, Mata, Rashford, Mkhitaryan, Martial, and yes Rooney would walk into our team. Fellaini, Herrera, Jones and Romero (MotM) would have a good shout too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 It's the first time ever that we've gone four home games in a row without scoring (in the top league) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Season ticket has cost me £37.89 per goal so far. I pay for two tickets and take my grandson and I've missed a couple of early games. Each goal that I've seen has cost me £122.83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 maybe you should support Chelsea then......get a grip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 But then they'll crucify him, for "only" drawing against a second string team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Yes there is. He could play the one guy in the side with a high score rate at penalties. Instead he is sat on the bench. I would have brought him on when the penalty was awarded. ****ing genius. Let's bring a bloke whose played 5 mins in the past 6 months on in the 6th minute. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 I enjoyed the game. It was much better than our 0-0 draw with Hull and a draw against Man United is always a good result. Our younger players, especially Stephens and Targett did well, and only a brilliant goalkeeping performance from Romero stopped us winning. It would have been good to see Austin playing today but maybe he's being saved for the Stoke game. Draws with Liverpool and Man United show we're no longer the pushovers for the top 6 teams that we were earlier in the season. I'm looking forward to the Stoke game. A win would clinch 8th place and we should all be satisfied with a 4th consecutive top 8 finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 Ooops!! I forgot about the match today. Can someone please post a summary of the entire game including all the mong post reactions during the match Please? I'm sure it can be done in about two sentences. Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 May, 2017 Share Posted 17 May, 2017 We played well tonight particularly second half. Some of our passing under pressure in the middle third was excellent. Jack Stephens was outstanding , he looks a class act. Apart from his final ball I thought Matt Targett had a really good game after so long out. Davo was busy and OR his normal excellent self.Tadic continues to frustrate and Redmond actually looked decent in the first half , but faded when we played better in the second. Clearly the Pen Miss would have made a difference & their keeper made some decent saves. Taken in isolation that was a pretty good show. Had it been the first game of the season posters would have been praising us & would have an air of confidence about the forthcoming season. They'd probably think we could have a decent cup run and maybe finish 8th. There were downsides. The main one being the complete and utter ****wits some of our supporters are. Leaving the ground I heard people saying stuff like "Same old ****", "too negative ", "boring ", if any one thinks that about tonight , I would say they haven't got a clue. Special mention goes to the **** wits who booed JWP coming off. They're probably the same half baked that complain that Puel is to rigid & never changes, the ones that complain he doesn't go all out to win. Instead of a like for like , taking off Redmond or Tadic. He ended up with Tadic,Boufall , Redmond all on the park, yet there were boos. Unbelievable. I actually thought Boufall looked dangerous, I was willing him to score to shut the planks up. The final straw was having to listen to Dinosaur Dave calling for 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with JRod, Austin and Gabbi "up top" and then hearing the texts read out. I drove down the M27 thinking , God we've got some idiots following the club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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