ericofarabia Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Never rated that expression. All chocolate boxes have a detailed description of what you're going to get. And a picture. And ingredients. Suspect they looked at all this if we're getting Pellegrino Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Even Poundland? In my experience it seems the description list of each shaped, colour wrapped choccy in the box normally gets lost after 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Why ?? Was my question too hard for you ?? Look on Wiki His Win Ratio is poor Fact Can't wait for when we discuss Van Dijk leaving Not sure why you even bother 'supporting' Saints when all you do is moan, moan, moan! His season of getting Alaves to 9th in their first season back in La Liga and the Copa Del Rey cup final with the 15th biggest budget in La Liga is poor is it? I wonder what your reaction to Pochettino joining us was after his previous job ended with him being sacked by Espanyol with a 32.9 win % 'FACT' where Pellegrino has an average over this managerial career of 43.14% using your gospel of Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Never rated that expression. All chocolate boxes have a detailed description of what you're going to get. And a picture. And ingredients. Suspect they looked at all this if we're getting Pellegrino Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, but its what the ESN say. I am sure Les looked at the full description and rejected the cracknells, the nougats and the nut-caramel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Mauricio ‘El longanizas’ Pellegrino (The Long Pork Sausage) - now there's a nickname for ya. Any guesses? He is 6'4". What colour are his eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 It's Maurice Pilgrim if you want the anglicised version. Mo Pilgrim to his mates. Good name I reckon. A Pilgrim managing the Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Not sure why you even bother 'supporting' Saints when all you do is moan, moan, moan! His season of getting Alaves to 9th in their first season back in La Liga and the Copa Del Rey cup final with the 15th biggest budget in La Liga is poor is it? I wonder what your reaction to Pochettino joining us was after his previous job ended with him being sacked by Espanyol with a 32.9 win % 'FACT' where Pellegrino has an average over this managerial career of 43.14% using your gospel of Wikipedia. So, no response re Van Dijk then I suppose that because you are such a great Saints Fan, you won't even comment ? Perish the thought that you utter something negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 When are you going to start using your other log ins to start agreeing with yourself again? What logins are those ??? Ask the Mods. I've only ever had one login Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Great, who let that moron back on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 So, no response re Van Dijk then Maybe because you didn't ask a question and therefore no one gave you a response. Or maybe no one wanted to play your game with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 So, no response re Van Dijk then I suppose that because you are such a great Saints Fan, you won't even comment ? Perish the thought that you utter something negative There's a whole thread about VVD. This one is about a potential new manager. Stop trying to bait people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 It's Maurice Pilgrim if you want the anglicised version. Mo Pilgrim to his mates. Good name I reckon. And where did the pilgrim fathers sail from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Mauricio ‘El longanizas’ Pellegrino (The Long Pork Sausage) - now there's a nickname for ya. Any guesses? He is 6'4". I just read something describing him as El Flaco, The Skinny One. Sorry to disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 There's a whole thread about VVD. This one is about a potential new manager. Stop trying to bait people Nah....he's not trying to bait people. Never has. That would be against the forum rules and the mods would have come down on him like a ton of bricks long before now if he was a wind up merchant. No, it's simply someone exercising a different opinion, innit guv?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I just read something describing him as El Flaco, The Skinny One. Sorry to disappoint. So he's the Skinny One with a Long Pork Sausage. (still nowhere near the description the Mrs uses about me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Great, who let that moron back on here. Never left Still throwing abuse I see Perhaps it will change when you get to your Teens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I'm told an announcement is imminent. Les has planned the big unveiling meticulously and I can exclusively reveal that Pellegrino will spring from Manolo's wedding cake at any moment... Happy to share whenever I'm IKT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 What colour are his eyes? Red on white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 A Pilgrim managing the Saints? Hope it works out better for this one than the last one then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 It's Maurice Pilgrim if you want the anglicised version. Mo Pilgrim to his mates. Good name I reckon. Google translate tells me that pilgrim is peregrino. But happy to call him Mo Pilgrim it it suits.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I'm told an announcement is imminent. Les has planned the big unveiling meticulously and I can exclusively reveal that Pellegrino will spring from Manolo's wedding cake at any moment... Happy to share whenever I'm IKT. Having married an Italian bird I can confirm that they like a big wedding. But even her family didn't need a cake that size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Google translate tells me that pilgrim is peregrino. But happy to call him Mo Pilgrim it it suits.... That's because you are translating pilgrim to spanish. Like most argentinian names, Pellegrino is italian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Edit: not reading properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Edit: not reading properly. Let's hope it's a case of pilgrim's progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 The main thing to worry about is his very poor Win ratio Are you Delldays - Glasgow S.- Heisenberg? Give it a rest - sounds like a very good appointment to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 What logins are those ??? Ask the Mods. I've only ever had one login Of course you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 What logins are those ??? Ask the Mods. I've only ever had one login Same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 The main thing to worry about is his very poor Win ratio The main thing to worry about is what mark trousers will give you out of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Same I call bullish*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 So, getting back to the subject, what time are we expecting smoke signals above the Vatican? Appointment imminent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Oops, that didn't work either. Not been my day so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I call bullish*t Forgot to change login? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I... he beat Barcelona away. And lost 0-6 at home to them. We might just as well have kept Puel. Their teams scored the same number of goals last season and both struggled to score any at home but Pellegrino's finished 9th whereas Puel's finished 8th. Puel's overall career record is much better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 And lost 0-6 at home to them. We might just as well have kept Puel. Their teams scored the same number of goals last season and both struggled to score any at home but Pellegrino's finished 9th whereas Puel's finished 8th. Puel's overall career record is much better though. Have you even read what has been said about Puel? We couldn't keep him! He refused to change what his bosses asked him to. How you can compare the league's baffle me...the squads qualities are miles apart. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 And lost 0-6 at home to them. We might just as well have kept Puel. Their teams scored the same number of goals last season and both struggled to score any at home but Pellegrino's finished 9th whereas Puel's finished 8th. Puel's overall career record is much better though. It's not a fair comparison though, is it. Alves were odds on to go down, they massively over achieved last season. Puel had to go. He lost the fans and dressing room, there was no way back for him. I can't say that I'm that excited by the appointment (I don't know enough about him to really make a judgement), but I'm willing to give him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldeuboi Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I was originally worried about the style of play Alaves had last season but after looking deeper I'm fully on board if we get Pellegrino. Played good football at Valencia and in Argentina. Just shows that he's a manager who can tactically adapt to the tools he has. I've no doubt we'd play possession-based football under him as that is what our players/club are suited to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 And lost 0-6 at home to them. We might just as well have kept Puel. Their teams scored the same number of goals last season and both struggled to score any at home but Pellegrino's finished 9th whereas Puel's finished 8th. Puel's overall career record is much better though. MaPe loses 25% of his games - Puel loses 35%. Puel has managed some much bigger clubs too. Puel was horrendous here so simply had to go. MaPe is an odd one - has done very little so far to justify a top 8 Premiership club and his win % is nothing to get excited about. Would seem that Reed likes the kudos of looking outside the (black) box and doesn't seem to like the high profile managers that can take the spot light off Mr "I do everything" As always ill give MaPe a fair shot at things but do find this appointment (like Puel) very underwhelming. Was flicking through a few facebook posts last night and seems that Alaves fans were nonchalant about his leaving.... appreciate he was only there a year but expected to see some love for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 That's because you are translating pilgrim to spanish. Like most argentinian names, Pellegrino is italian. Apologies, I bow to your greater knowledge. (Why do they speak Spanish, but have Italian names though?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I hope to be pleasantly surprised. I was unenthusiastic about the appointment of Pochettino. I was very enthusiastic about Koeman and very unenthusiastic about Puel and didn't expect him to last more than a year. I don't want to say I was right about Puel because I warmed to him as a man and thought he deserved another season. I feel Pellegrino would be very much a case of out of the frying pan into the fire but hope that, like Pochettino, he proves me wrong. What concerns me though is that since the departure of Paul Mitchell, the standard of our recruitment both on and off the pitch has not been very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I hope to be pleasantly surprised. I was unenthusiastic about the appointment of Pochettino. I was very enthusiastic about Koeman and very unenthusiastic about Puel and didn't expect him to last more than a year. I don't want to say I was right about Puel because I warmed to him as a man and thought he deserved another season. I feel Pellegrino would be very much a case of out of the frying pan into the fire but hope that, like Pochettino, he proves me wrong. What concerns me though is that since the departure of Paul Mitchell, the standard of our recruitment both on and off the pitch has not been very good. +1 I am not sure why but I have a good feeling about Pellegrino. Probably due to the umaxit and articles posted about him. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Of course you have. I expect SaintRobbie will go quiet now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 What has win % got to do with anything? MoPo had a poorer win % than Adkins. But I would argue most on here would say MoPo was a better manager. Adkins (who I thought was great for us by the way) benefited from having a relatively expensive squad in a lower league - we were going to win more game than not. Alaves were expected to be relegated last year, they ended up in the Copa del Rey final and comfortably mid-table. The issues relating to the style of football with Puel could have been solved if we had been a little more 'gung-ho' towards the end of the season, but he wasn't willing to change - that is why he had to go. Once we were safe, we should have seen a more attacking style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Apologies, I bow to your greater knowledge. (Why do they speak Spanish, but have Italian names though?) Why apologise? Former Spanish colony but received massive Italian immigration during the late 19th century and early 20th. Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Argentines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 What has win % got to do with anything? MoPo had a poorer win % than Adkins. But I would argue most on here would say MoPo was a better manager. Adkins (who I thought was great for us by the way) benefited from having a relatively expensive squad in a lower league - we were going to win more game than not. Alaves were expected to be relegated last year, they ended up in the Copa del Rey final and comfortably mid-table. The issues relating to the style of football with Puel could have been solved if we had been a little more 'gung-ho' towards the end of the season, but he wasn't willing to change - that is why he had to go. Once we were safe, we should have seen a more attacking style. Win percentage can only be used as some sort of indicator when all of the matches are of the same level. A manager can have 20 games in L1 and win them all and 20 games in the PL and lose them all but he'd still have a win ratio of 50% wouldn't he. Adkins was OK at lower levels but just wasn't a top flight manager. Failed to win either L1 or the Championship with what must be one of the best sides ever seen at those levels. Chock full of what turned out to be international class players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 MaPe loses 25% of his games - Puel loses 35%. Puel has managed some much bigger clubs too. Puel was horrendous here so simply had to go. MaPe is an odd one - has done very little so far to justify a top 8 Premiership club and his win % is nothing to get excited about. Would seem that Reed likes the kudos of looking outside the (black) box and doesn't seem to like the high profile managers that can take the spot light off Mr "I do everything" As always ill give MaPe a fair shot at things but do find this appointment (like Puel) very underwhelming. Was flicking through a few facebook posts last night and seems that Alaves fans were nonchalant about his leaving.... appreciate he was only there a year but expected to see some love for him. Nothing to do with kudos old sport, there was nobody other than Pelligrino left because Les dithered so much; it was him or Allardyce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Ok, so a few things I've heard... FdB and MaPe have both been spoken to, along with a couple of German managers and a British coach (I'm afraid I don't know precisely who that was). MaPe is currently the firm favourite, unless we get surprising news from one of the Germans (but we don't expect to). Expect MaPe to be announced. Possibly today but possible next week. Les is impressed with his footballing philosophy but recognises that the fans didn't take to Puel's perceived dogmatism and MaPe has a pragmatic bent, in a similar vein to Koeman but with, perhaps, a more holistic approach to the development of the club. Also, expect some player comings and goings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Nothing to do with kudos old sport, there was nobody other than Pelligrino left because Les dithered so much; it was him or Allardyce! :lol::lol::lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 Still lots of *****ing and no real news then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 (edited) MaPe loses 25% of his games - Puel loses 35%. Puel has managed some much bigger clubs too. Puel was horrendous here so simply had to go. MaPe is an odd one - has done very little so far to justify a top 8 Premiership club and his win % is nothing to get excited about. Would seem that Reed likes the kudos of looking outside the (black) box and doesn't seem to like the high profile managers that can take the spot light off Mr "I do everything" As always ill give MaPe a fair shot at things but do find this appointment (like Puel) very underwhelming. Was flicking through a few facebook posts last night and seems that Alaves fans were nonchalant about his leaving.... appreciate he was only there a year but expected to see some love for him. On and on and on and on like broken record... Les must have really stuffed you in some way, your obsession with him is unnatural, do you have attic room with defaced pictures of him adorning the walls Puel was not horrendous, just not as good as he should have been and certainly better than the majority of managers whose teams were below us in the league Edited 23 June, 2017 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 I expect SaintRobbie will go quiet now. He's different to Saint Richmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 23 June, 2017 Share Posted 23 June, 2017 He's different to Saint Richmond Really? That does surprise me, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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