Plastic Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 We could stay up with 37 0-0 draws and a 1-0 win. What a season that would be. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 That really isn't the name of the game, football is about winning (or not losing when necessary) and finishing as high up the table as possible. Of course I want to see Saints win. But I would rather we had the philosophy of whatever they score, we'll score more. In other words an attacking game despite the risks. Don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 We could stay up with 37 0-0 draws and a 1-0 win. 40 points won't be enough next year. If it is, help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 I must admit, I'd be disappointed with Pelligrino or FDB but I accept they're looking the most likely. Shame as we were the most attractive we've been in decades this time last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Legally we finished 8th but to say that we were 8th best is stretching things a bit. Why don't we all play each other twice & then see. The best team will finish first, the second best second , and on and on. The 8th best team will finish 8th. I find this a much better system than you deciding who you think is 8th best. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Some people have a really inflated opinion of our standing in the football world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 I want us to finish as high as possible. Who gives a shiete how many points we get. When we finished second was that achievement dampened by the fact we'd have been 4th in other seasons. Facts are Puel went backwards by finishing lower than Koeman. If next season we're lower than 8th we'd have gone backwards from Puel. Style of play is an opinion, league position is fact & you can't argue a fact. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Some people have a really inflated opinion of our standing in the football world. Mhmm. Like us being a stepping stone after managing Dortmund. Modest recruitment outlay last summer, huge uncertainty over ownership and investment levels this summer - I'm not sure anyone will be looking at us as a stepping stone to a top job, so much as a nice fat premier league pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 I want us to finish as high as possible. Who gives a shiete how many points we get. When we finished second was that achievement dampened by the fact we'd have been 4th in other seasons. Facts are Puel went backwards by finishing lower than Koeman. If next season we're lower than 8th we'd have gone backwards from Puel. Style of play is an opinion, league position is fact & you can't argue a fact. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Is it more impressive to win the league with an unbeaten season than not? Unless you're going to argue that it makes no difference, I don't see how you can struggle to comprehend that not all league finishes are created equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Is it more impressive to win the league with an unbeaten season than not? Unless you're going to argue that it makes no difference, I don't see how you can struggle to comprehend that not all league finishes are created equal. It makes no difference as to whether you were the best team in England that season. Arsenal invincibles were the best team in England that season & Leicester were last season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Some people have a really inflated opinion of our standing in the football world. Hard to imagine how that's possible considering we get pillaged every summer to remind us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Southampton and Crystal Palace chase Mauricio Pellegrino for vacant managerial positions. - @JWTelegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/21/southampton-crystal-palace-chase-mauricio-pellegrino-vacant/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Don't really understand the love in for Vieira yet hatred for Giggs... circa 18 months in charge of a USA team versus 2 years as assistant at one of the biggest club teams in the world. Surely on that merit people would rather Giggs? For what it's worth I don't really want either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Southampton and Crystal Palace chase Mauricio Pellegrino for vacant managerial positions. - @JWTelegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/21/southampton-crystal-palace-chase-mauricio-pellegrino-vacant/ Markus Weinzierl is our mystery man then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Southampton and Crystal Palace chase Mauricio Pellegrino for vacant managerial positions. - @JWTelegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/21/southampton-crystal-palace-chase-mauricio-pellegrino-vacant/ I think that may be the first time Markus Weinzierl has been mentioned with the job in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 I think that may be the first time Markus Weinzierl has been mentioned with the job in the press. It is. Who mentioned him 1st on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Strangely written piece. Almost a plea to him to choose us Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 We could stay up with 37 0-0 draws and a 1-0 win. It'd be far more entertaining than your 10 years of monotone, repetitive drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 (edited) I think that may be the first time Markus Weinzierl has been mentioned with the job in the press. "Finished Mid table in a major European League" seems to be very high on the "key achievements and experiences" list this time out. Edited 21 June, 2017 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 The dreaded 'academy pathway' rears its head again If they are good enough they will get in the team and this 'pathway' ******** needs to be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 We will finish lower than 8th next season and fans will question why we sacked Puel I won't..I know we might finish lower, that's what happens for teams of our size... Puel made me not really want to bother going. My son missed two games to do other things towards the end of the season as he wasn't that fussed...first time in years that's happened. I am glad he is gone and still will be even if we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 That reads to me that pellegrino does not like the structure and we are going for weinzierl... Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 We could stay up with 37 0-0 draws and a 1-0 win. The Invincibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 That reads to me that pellegrino does not like the structure and we are going for weinzierl... Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Reads the same to me , and remember that everything that J.wilson prints is fed to him by the club , after I think it will be weinzierl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Alan Carr's dad is back on the market if our scouting department needs a shake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Weinzierl still 20's with Paddy Power fwiw!! Looks like Schalke didn't end well, with players questioning his ability. Sounds familiar, not saying he isn't a good manager, but if Schalke was too big, would the PL be any different with big egos at club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/08/05/tactical-philosophy-markus-weinzierl/ This article suggests Weinzierl's another defensive manager (he does use wingbacks though which suits us). You would have thought Reed would be fully aware of the reasons the fans were dissatisfied with an otherwise acceptable season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 My German mate mentioned him 2 weeks ago, I looked him up then and laughed after schalke dodged relegation on goal difference Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 I won't..I know we might finish lower, that's what happens for teams of our size... Puel made me not really want to bother going. My son missed two games to do other things towards the end of the season as he wasn't that fussed...first time in years that's happened. I am glad he is gone and still will be even if we go down. Rubbish, if we go down, then the decision to sack Puel will have spectacularly failed. We were never in a relegation battle under him... And more fans will stay away the following season in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Forest Steve Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Eric Martin, Gerry Gurr Campbell Forsyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 If you think of our criteria, the manager we want is basically another Pochettino - Only that coach doesn't exist. As regards to the Telegraph article: I'm surprised we are actively pushing the fact that Les/Ross choose most of the players. We pretty much know that anyway, but I've seen it mentioned a few times in reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 If you think of our criteria, the manager we want is basically another Pochettino - Only that coach doesn't exist. As regards to the Telegraph article: I'm surprised we are actively pushing the fact that Les/Ross choose most of the players. We pretty much know that anyway, but I've seen it mentioned a few times in reports. 90% of clubs work that way to be honest, especially these days with the short-lived nature of mangers, it's kind of the most sensible way. Wouldn't read anything into that or be shocked by that. I'd be worried if we didn't work like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Markus Weinzierl is our mystery man then. Yes please, if only to boost my bank account! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 . I am glad he is gone and still will be even if we go down. Dear god Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 id rather watch us in the championship than suffer the turgid tedious torture that was watching us under puel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Rubbish, if we go down, then the decision to sack Puel will have spectacularly failed. We were never in a relegation battle under him... And more fans will stay away the following season in the Championship. No, the decision to apoint whoever it is we appoint will have failed spectacularly. Sacking Puel is, and always will be, the correct decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/890827846?-11205:798:0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 id rather watch us in the championship than suffer the turgid tedious torture that was watching us under puel Unbelievable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 It is. Who mentioned him 1st on here? Ericb told me that Weinzierl was in the frame a few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Unbelievable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk To be fair duckie I agree. I would take championship football every day of the week. Way better than turgid top six love in every season. Championship better crowds, more competitive, cheaper, less Mong fans and more fun/ less corporate ****fest. discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 id rather watch us in the championship than suffer the turgid tedious torture that was watching us under puel Really? Honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Ericb told me that Weinzierl was in the frame a few days ago. Seems very very uninspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 To be fair duckie I agree. I would take championship football every day of the week. Way better than turgid top six love in every season. Championship better crowds, more competitive, cheaper, less Mong fans and more fun/ less corporate ****fest. discuss? There's nothing to discuss, it would be a disaster. Every club in that League strives to be where we are, in the top division of English football. However the entertainment served up at SMS this season was not good, but no way would I rather suffer the pain of relegation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 All the names listed by Wilson are completely underwhelming - as are their managerial records. Puel should have been given another year. Utterly bizarre situation we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Seems very very uninspiring. Might be uninspiring but it might be inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 id rather watch us in the championship than suffer the turgid tedious torture that was watching us under puel No you wouldn't. Stop being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 There's nothing to discuss, it would be a disaster. Every club in that League strives to be where we are, in the top division of English football. However the entertainment served up at SMS this season was not good, but no way would I rather suffer the pain of relegation again. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 All the names listed by Wilson are completely underwhelming - as are their managerial records. Puel should have been given another year. Utterly bizarre situation we are in. So was potty at the time - most SFC fans were saying who? Don't disagree re Puel tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 There's nothing to discuss, it would be a disaster. Every club in that League strives to be where we are, in the top division of English football. However the entertainment served up at SMS this season was not good, but no way would I rather suffer the pain of relegation again. Disagree. Everyone thinks playing in the premier league is be all/ end all. It isn't. I'm telling you I enjoyed our time in league One and the Championship way more than the money pit that is the premier league. Actually being in with a shout of winning a league was so much better than striving to be mid table which, in the premier league, is all we'll ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 June, 2017 Share Posted 21 June, 2017 Disagree. Everyone thinks playing in the premier league is be all/ end all. It isn't. I'm telling you I enjoyed our time in league One and the Championship way more than the money pit that is the premier league. Actually being in with a shout of winning a league was so much better than striving to be mid table which, in the premier league, is all we'll ever be. So if we had come say 5th in the PL last season you would still want to be in the championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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