Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Corbyn - Stop dropping bombs in the middle east and fully fund our police and security forces to deal with any domestic threats. Scrap bedroom tax, scrap tuition fees, decent wages for Nurses and free training. Why would you vote against that? What's the alternative? More police cuts, 24 A+E's earmarked for closure, pay for your own social care, tax cuts for the wealthy,social security cuts for the British Public, students coming out of UNI in debt just for wanting an Education, more zero hour exploitation, Kill foxes and scrap laws protecting Elephant ivory, Continue to sell weapons to Islamic regimes and sell off what's left of our public services to foreign investors. Wow tough choice isn't it. This x 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Corbyn - Stop dropping bombs in the middle east and fully fund our police and security forces to deal with any domestic threats. Scrap bedroom tax, scrap tuition fees, decent wages for Nurses and free training. Why would you vote against that? What's the alternative? More police cuts, 24 A+E's earmarked for closure, pay for your own social care, tax cuts for the wealthy,social security cuts for the British Public, students coming out of UNI in debt just for wanting an Education, more zero hour exploitation, Kill foxes and scrap laws protecting Elephant ivory, Continue to sell weapons to Islamic regimes and sell off what's left of our public services to foreign investors. Wow tough choice isn't it. Lots of those things would be lovely. Sadly they want to pay for it with the highest peacetime tax raid. And still they won't be able to afford it. They and I don't want to be passed by someone who capitulates to terrorism. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Lots of those things would be lovely. Sadly they want to pay for it with the highest peacetime tax raid. And still they won't be able to afford it. They and I don't want to be passed by someone who capitulates to terrorism. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Anyone who genuinely believes that is highly deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/read-jeremy-corbyns-speech-on-terrorism.html?m=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Anyone who genuinely believes that is highly deluded. If Jeremy corbyn ever gets on to power. The job losses would be humongous. The interest rates would spiral out of control. Just look at the nervousness on the markets and the drop off the pound. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 corbyn wont win its in the bag for the tories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 And high profile people in labour disagree with him... http://talkradio.co.uk/news/manchester-mayor-andy-burnham-says-jeremy-corbyn-terror-speech-wrong-17052614328 Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 If Jeremy corbyn ever gets on to power. The job losses would be humongous. The interest rates would spiral out of control. Just look at the nervousness on the markets and the drop off the pound. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk You didn't vote Brexit then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Corbyn started ok with Neil, but floundering now when it comes to NATO & nuclear weapons. He is not answering & being evasive. The supporters will love it but won't shift one single floating voter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 If Jeremy corbyn ever gets on to power. The job losses would be humongous. The interest rates would spiral out of control. Just look at the nervousness on the markets and the drop off the pound. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalkha ha you have not noticed the pound has collapsed big time since brexit then,no one wants to hold the pound and if we get no deal be prepared for it to get even lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 just watched the andrew neil program with corbyn that is why he will not be our PM. decent sound bites and slogans. Horrendous when the surface is scratched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 I don't understand his answer about funding nationalisation of water companies ," How much will you borrow?" His answer was "None, I'll issue bonds". Isn't that debt? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 just watched the andrew neil program with corbyn that is why he will not be our PM. decent sound bites and slogans. Horrendous when the surface is scratched Haha, never watched May's interviews then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 If Jeremy corbyn ever gets on to power. The job losses would be humongous. The interest rates would spiral out of control. Just look at the nervousness on the markets and the drop off the pound. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk I thought Corbyn was unelectable, I thought he was a poor leader. However as the election campaign develops, there is no question that Corbyn is demonstrating he is a much more rounded politician than automaton May. When he talks, he is actually in touch with the feelings associated with his words. Theresa May is anything but strong and stable. She was so far ahead in the polls she thought she could get away with shafting working and middle class families by snatching their children's inheritance to pay for social care. The moment her ratings took a nose dive she U-turned. If she was truly passionate about the policy, she would stick to her convictions, not bring in a cap and then argue that black was white that the manifesto pledge had not changed Theresa May's words are not in touch with her feelings, her words are in touch with 'being on message'. She is obsessed with damaging Jeremy Corbyn, because when she looks too deeply at the conservative record and their policies, there is much to cover up. Since 2010, the following has happened (1) The overall tax burden as a % of GDP is the highest it has been for thirty years. Higher than in the mid-seventies. All the Tories have done is shift taxation from income tax to taxes on spending and increased it. (2) You will love this one - The conservative party have spent more and paid less back into the treasury, over any period you wish to look at, despite the myth of labour profligacy and conservative prudence. http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/03/13/the-conservatives-have-been-the-biggest-borrowers-over-the-last-70-years/ (3) Collapse in the number of Employment tribunal claims since the fee to bring a claim has increased from £200 to over £1,000. (only 1% of 54,000 pregnant women who have been unfairly dismissed have claimed at a tribunal) (4) Just about managing working families have lost on average £2,000 per year in tax credits cuts. Corporation tax cut to 19%. The lowest of the 'wealthy' EU states. (5) Social Care - 40% cuts to Local Authority budgets. (6) NHS - Real term cut in funding (7) Real term cut in education spending ( Employment rights eroding away. The Tories have increased the time to two years before an employee can bring a claim. A refusal to regulate against zero hour contracts, when this is one of the single biggest causes of poverty and reliance on food banks (9) An exponential increase in the use of food banks. (10) A social security system that makes a concerted effort to make it difficult to claim. A sanctions system that is aimed at saving money, not helping the unemployed get back into work. These ten points are the tip of the iceberg. If we want a cohesive and fair society, that will not result in economic collapse (stop believing the tory bull**** on labours record (see point 2 above)), then there is only one person and party to vote for. Vote Corbyn. Vote Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 just watched the andrew neil program with corbyn that is why he will not be our PM. decent sound bites and slogans. Horrendous when the surface is scratched I thought he come across a lot better than May. Doesn't stand a cat in hells chance of winning though, he lost any slight chance of making inroads when this Manchester thing happened. Security is now a bigger issue and his IRA thing and perceived passivism won't sit well with the electorate. Labour will get a right kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Corbyn - Stop dropping bombs in the middle east and fully fund our police and security forces to deal with any domestic threats. Scrap bedroom tax, scrap tuition fees, decent wages for Nurses and free training. Why would you vote against that? What's the alternative? More police cuts, 24 A+E's earmarked for closure, pay for your own social care, tax cuts for the wealthy,social security cuts for the British Public, students coming out of UNI in debt just for wanting an Education, more zero hour exploitation, Kill foxes and scrap laws protecting Elephant ivory, Continue to sell weapons to Islamic regimes and sell off what's left of our public services to foreign investors. Wow tough choice isn't it. Trouble is, with the increases in corporation and income taxes he wants to introduce, all the high earners and successful companies will f*** off abroad, leaving no money for his fantasy reforms. D'oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 (edited) Haha, never watched May's interviews then? promise you that corbyn will not win no chance he never met anyone from the IRA apparently... Edited 26 May, 2017 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 promise you that corbyn will not win no chance he never met anyone from the IRA apparently... Deranged. I've never said he hasn't met people from the IRA. Hundreds of people did. I've also never said he'll win. The BBC and the media billionaires have been working on that solidly for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 The BBC and the media billionaires have been working on that solidly for 2 years. They really haven't had to lift a finger. He's an incompetent idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 (edited) Deranged. I've never said he hasn't met people from the IRA. Hundreds of people did. I've also never said he'll win. The BBC and the media billionaires have been working on that solidly for 2 years. why are you suggesting i said you insisted he never met the IRA? jezza himself has said it and it is blatent lies. the bbc and media billionaires worked on making sure we remained in the EU. so dont blame them if old. jezza gets a kicking in a few weeks at the polls Edited 26 May, 2017 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Trouble is, with the increases in corporation and income taxes he wants to introduce, all the high earners and successful companies will f*** off abroad, leaving no money for his fantasy reforms. D'oh! We aren't talking 70s style tax rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 why are you suggesting i said you insisted he never met the IRA? jezza himself has said it and it is blatent lies. the bbc and media billionaires worked on making sure we remained in the EU. so dont blame them is old. jezza gets a kicking in a few weeks at the polls What are you blithering about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 (edited) We aren't talking 70s style tax rates. would they be higher. andrew neil highlighted that it would be the highest of taxation across the board in recorded peace time history? Edited 26 May, 2017 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 They really haven't had to lift a finger. He's an incompetent idiot. If you can't see their constant bias you must be deeply bias yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 If you can't see their constant bias you must be deeply bias yourself. it is because he is an idiot the BBC and the rich are not making up his IRA love or his blocking of anti-terror legislation over 50 times. or his disdain for Nato. or his choice of absolute weirdos on the front bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 why are you suggesting i said you insisted he never met the IRA? jezza himself has said it and it is blatent lies. the bbc and media billionaires worked on making sure we remained in the EU. so dont blame them if old. jezza gets a kicking in a few weeks at the polls http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/thickos-are-trying-to-smear-jeremy.html?m=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 it is because he is an idiot the BBC and the rich are not making up his IRA love or his blocking of anti-terror legislation over 50 times. or his disdain for Nato. or his choice of absolute weirdos on the front bench That antiterror legislation that has worked so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/thickos-are-trying-to-smear-jeremy.html?m=1 you just know that there will be protests and lots of things smashed up over the convincing defeat of corbyn in a couple of weeks. You have started early it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 the bbc and media billionaires worked on making sure we remained in the EU right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 you just know that there will be protests and lots of things smashed up over the convincing defeat of corbyn in a couple of weeks. You have started early it seems. Lol wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Lol wut? Go and look into how meant people from Goldman Sachs were speaking favourably about remain. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Go and look into how meant people from Goldman Sachs were speaking favourably about remain. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk What's that got to do with the bbc and media billionaires? As for smashing stuff up, I'm having cheesecake whilst sat on my arse watching Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 What are you blithering about? What he's "blithering" about is Corbyn's claim in the Andrew Neil interview that he'd never met the IRA. Whether he was being disingenuous or lying depends on your political persuasion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 If you can't see their constant bias you must be deeply bias yourself. Here's some people complaining about BBC bias: https://biasedbbc.org https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/03/what-shocks-me-about-the-bbc-occasion http://www.bruceonpolitics.com/2015/06/15/lefties-at-the-bbc/ By the way, the word is "biased". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Quite funny though to see the brexiters here moaning about high taxes driving the bankers away, when the same bankers have said Brexit will drive them away. Sounds like you just want any flimsy excuse to attack the costed labour manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Here's some people complaining about BBC bias: https://biasedbbc.org https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/03/what-shocks-me-about-the-bbc-occasion http://www.bruceonpolitics.com/2015/06/15/lefties-at-the-bbc/ By the way, the word is "biased". So you admit there is" bias." Amazed you have these links, are you a fan of order-order.com too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 What he's "blithering" about is Corbyn's claim in the Andrew Neil interview that he'd never met the IRA. Whether he was being disingenuous or lying depends on your political persuasion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I expect Corbyn means he didn't attend secret little meetings where he plotted the death of his own constituents' children and gave them bomb making tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 So you admit there is" bias." Amazed you have these links, are you a fan of order-order.com too? You realise there is such a thing as Google right? Not difficult to find. I've been a Guardian reader all my life but also follow people like Guido on Twitter too. Because there's a plurality of opinion in the world, not the dinlow echo chamber you live in. The BBC gets accusations of bias from both sides, which kind of makes you look like something of a plank again, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 I expect Corbyn means he didn't attend secret little meetings where he plotted the death of his own constituents' children and gave them bomb making tips. Ok, that must be it. Silly me, I thought the words " I didn't meet the IRA" meant he didn't meet them. I didn't realise that it actually means he didn't plan a bombing campaign with them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 You realise there is such a thing as Google right? Not difficult to find. I've been a Guardian reader all my life but also follow people like Guido on Twitter too. Because there's a plurality of opinion in the world, not the dinlow echo chamber you live in. The BBC gets accusations of bias from both sides, which kind of makes you look like something of a plank again, doesn't it? Accusation of bias doesn't mean that at certain periods it's bias doesn't lean way or another through the years. See I can use Google too: http://uk.businessinsider.com/is-the-bbc-biased-against-jeremy-corbyn-2016-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Accusation of bias doesn't mean that at certain periods it's bias doesn't lean way or another through the years. See I can use Google too: http://uk.businessinsider.com/is-the-bbc-biased-against-jeremy-corbyn-2016-9 Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Ok, that must be it. Silly me, I thought the words " I didn't meet the IRA" meant he didn't meet them. I didn't realise that it actually means he didn't plan a bombing campaign with them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's what you right wingers obsession is all about though isn't it? It all boils down to a twisted implication that socialists somehow how hate the country (even more than Ed Miliband's father, and his cat did) and somehow would want all invading armies to be let in. It seems to go back to the language of the cold war and beyond, the paranoia of the communist enemy within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 Jesus wept. He always does. This one seems to be a proper academic article from the London school of economics: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.lse.ac.uk/media%40lse/research/pdf/JeremyCorbyn/Cobyn-Report-FINAL.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwitk5fXxY7UAhVSaVAKHW7JBGkQFggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNHohyHvkVNlbwaiD-U33BdLIz5W2A&sig2=oBs0x9pJRc-eEG2tyzsO9Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 He always does. This one seems to be a proper academic article from the London school of economics: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.lse.ac.uk/media%40lse/research/pdf/JeremyCorbyn/Cobyn-Report-FINAL.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwitk5fXxY7UAhVSaVAKHW7JBGkQFggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNHohyHvkVNlbwaiD-U33BdLIz5W2A&sig2=oBs0x9pJRc-eEG2tyzsO9Q LSE founded by the Fabian society and a long history of being a left wing institution? That London School of Economics? That one? Stop blubbering and own it. He's your leader and he will succeed or fail on his own merits. Which are none because he has no merit because he is a blithering useless cu nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 (edited) LSE founded by the Fabian society and a long history of being a left wing institution? That London School of Economics? That one? Stop blubbering and own it. He's your leader and he will succeed or fail on his own merits. Which are none because he has no merit because he is a blithering useless cu nt. Quite amazing what Google can throw up, just like your evidence earlier. I'm not blubbering although I think you mean blubbing? As you say, what will be will be. Edited 26 May, 2017 by Jonnyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 That's what you right wingers obsession is all about though isn't it? It all boils down to a twisted implication that socialists somehow how hate the country (even more than Ed Miliband's father, and his cat did) and somehow would want all invading armies to be let in. It seems to go back to the language of the cold war and beyond, the paranoia of the communist enemy within. What are you waffling on about? It was a very simple point. Did he meet the IRA, he said he didn't. You clarified this denial by stating that "didn't meet" actually means didn't get involved with planning their bombing operations. It's got nothing to do with the pony you wrote. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 May, 2017 Share Posted 26 May, 2017 What are you waffling on about? It was a very simple point. Did he meet the IRA, he said he didn't. You clarified this denial by stating that "didn't meet" actually means didn't get involved with planning their bombing operations. It's got nothing to do with the pony you wrote. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's right your massive prejudice comes down him possibly lying. Politicians never do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 May, 2017 Share Posted 27 May, 2017 What are you waffling on about? It was a very simple point. Did he meet the IRA, he said he didn't. You clarified this denial by stating that "didn't meet" actually means didn't get involved with planning their bombing operations. It's got nothing to do with the pony you wrote. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Didn't the Queen shake the hand of one of the ****s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 27 May, 2017 Share Posted 27 May, 2017 If Jeremy corbyn ever gets on to power. The job losses would be humongous. The interest rates would spiral out of control. Just look at the nervousness on the markets and the drop off the pound. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk There'll be plenty of jobs in farming, food processing,healthcare and many other industries and services following Brexit due to Johnny foereigner no longer being able to come here so no problems there then eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 May, 2017 Share Posted 27 May, 2017 Quite amazing what Google can throw up, just like your evidence earlier. I'm not blubbering although I think you mean blubbing? As you say, what will be will be. One doesn't need Google to know the LSE was founded by Fabians and is well established as a left wing institution. It's called being knowledge sweetheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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