Roger Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Great going forward but would be good to see fit caceres playing with Virgil. Any chance Virgil will be fit for bmouth game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Great going forward but would be good to see fit caceres playing with Virgil. Any chance Virgil will be fit for bmouth game? Be lucky if he is back before the end of the season according to some on the injury thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Was it ever confirmed what the injury actually is? Or did I miss that info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 One thing is sure, when Saints go quiet on injury updates it'll be much longer than originally hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Next season. At least it scuppers a summer sale. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Next season. At least it scuppers a summer sale. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk no it does not, not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Given he is still unable to get a shoe on (team photo pre Wembley) and was on crutches last Sunday, I reckon it's very doubtful he'll be ready for bmouth. Personally I'll be surprised if he's back this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 no it does not, not at all It almost certainly does. Sorry to spoil your agenda. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjb7223 Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 when does Liverpool's preseason 2017-2018 start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 (edited) Great going forward but would be good to see fit caceres playing with Virgil. Any chance Virgil will be fit for bmouth game? Jeez would it? Why? that's Caceres playing with VVD Edited 4 March, 2017 by John Boy Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Given he is still unable to get a shoe on (team photo pre Wembley) and was on crutches last Sunday, I reckon it's very doubtful he'll be ready for bmouth. Personally I'll be surprised if he's back this season. I don't think we'll see him this season. My concern is that he may never get back to his previous level. Nothing concrete, just a nasty feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Le Miss said on Sky last week on the EFL Cup mashup after the game that it would be 7-8 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Sorry meant Le Tiss. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 I don't think we'll see him this season. My concern is that he may never get back to his previous level. Nothing concrete, just a nasty feeling. Pony Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 March, 2017 Share Posted 4 March, 2017 Pony Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Is that your usual insightful analysis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 Is that your usual insightful analysis? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 It almost certainly does. Sorry to spoil your agenda. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Why does it? Explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 March, 2017 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2017 Jeez would it? Why? that's Caceres playing with VVD What's ur problem. Do you not want to see them both fit as we are conceding a lot of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 Why does it? Explain Pretending that you don't know is rather pathetic, don't you think? Anyway, this thread is about Van Dijk, not you. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 (edited) Pretending that you don't know is rather pathetic, don't you think? Anyway, this thread is about Van Dijk, not you. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk go on, we signed Boufal for a record when he was far more crocked. so why will VvD being injured for 8 weeks put anyone off...when he will be fully fit by the end of this season let alone the summer/next season so, explain why his current injury means NO ONE will want him in the summer (rather than say I have some sort of agenda) cheers Edited 5 March, 2017 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 VVD has committed himself to the club till 2018 so wrist splitters can put their razor blades away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 VVD has committed himself to the club till 2018 so wrist splitters can put their razor blades away. I don't think you need to be a wrist slitter to think that VVD will go this summer. I fully expect someone to come in with a bid that the player can't turn down and the club will accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 What's ur problem. Do you not want to see them both fit as we are conceding a lot of goals. Of course we want them both fit, but there is a bizarre theme running through a few threads that leans towards Caceres already has the 2nd choice centreback badge on his shirt in some posters mind, the bloke ain't played a competitive game for over a year now due to a ruptured Achilles, but because he has a sparkling CV he is going seal up the defence instantly.......... it's this presumptive assuming that baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 March, 2017 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2017 Of course we want them both fit, but there is a bizarre theme running through a few threads that leans towards Caceres already has the 2nd choice centreback badge on his shirt in some posters mind, the bloke ain't played a competitive game for over a year now due to a ruptured Achilles, but because he has a sparkling CV he is going seal up the defence instantly.......... it's this presumptive assuming that baffles me. By the Spurs game should be there but Stephens isn't good enough imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 By the Spurs game should be there but Stephens isn't good enough imo. Caceres is here until the end of the season and was bought in as cover. This season is already over we aren't getting relegated and we aren't getting Europe it makes more sense to give one of youngsters valuable PL experience than some guy who isn't a long term solution to anything. Stephens can't get better if he doesn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 By the Spurs game should be there but Stephens isn't good enough imo.I'm not sure about Steven yet but he did well yesterday when the Watford forward was running on goal and he shepherded him away and took the ball off him. Has VVD done the same we would be drooling about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 March, 2017 Author Share Posted 5 March, 2017 Caceres is here until the end of the season and was bought in as cover. This season is already over we aren't getting relegated and we aren't getting Europe it makes more sense to give one of youngsters valuable PL experience than some guy who isn't a long term solution to anything. Stephens can't get better if he doesn't play. Dear o dear. I reckon caceres will be first choice. We aren't a bloody charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 (edited) Dear o dear. I reckon caceres will be first choice. We aren't a bloody charity. First choice for what he was bought in because we ****ed up Jan, panicked and we needed cover. He may play he may not but he isn't even contracted to be here next season. Edited 5 March, 2017 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 I'm not sure about Steven yet but he did well yesterday when the Watford forward was running on goal and he shepherded him away and took the ball off him. Has VVD done the same we would be drooling about it People seem to forget he has only played a handful of games at the top level. He still has a lot to learn and will make mistakes but he looks quiet promising I think. Defending is a team effort pretty much every goal that people are trying to pin on Stephens several players have contributed with mistakes before the goal is scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 5 March, 2017 Share Posted 5 March, 2017 go on, we signed Boufal for a record when he was far more crocked. so why will VvD being injured for 8 weeks put anyone off...when he will be fully fit by the end of this season let alone the summer/next season so, explain why his current injury means NO ONE will want him in the summer (rather than say I have some sort of agenda) cheers So do you think that VVD being injured doesn't reduce the chances of him being sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bstokesaint Posted 6 March, 2017 Share Posted 6 March, 2017 Considering some of the terrible defending from the top teams in the league plus real lack of decent centre backs in world football I imagine there will be a lot of teams coming in with big money bids for VVD. The guy could walk straight into first teams of Arsenal, Liverpool, city, and united. Even teams like Barca or Real Madrid would be improved. Obviously we will put a few off with a massive price tag but when you look at what city paid for Otamendi and Mangala what does that make VVD worth?! I wouldn't blame him for leaving us for a big club in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 6 March, 2017 Share Posted 6 March, 2017 I really want to believe that VVD will be here next season, I don't think he'll be angling for a move away. However, if the club receive a whopping offer from one of Europe's top clubs, including the ones from the Premier League, it's hard to see how we would turn it down and equally how van Dijk would choose to stay. Koeman is rumoured to be in the frame for Barcelona and Arsenal jobs. If he ends up at one of those, he'll come in for VVD and that will be that (unless Arsenal refuse to pay the money we'd want). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 6 March, 2017 Share Posted 6 March, 2017 It almost certainly does. Sorry to spoil your agenda. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 7 March, 2017 Share Posted 7 March, 2017 Can't believe a simple "When will he be back" has turned this into such a playground........ Oh, actually..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 March, 2017 Share Posted 7 March, 2017 It almost certainly does. Sorry to spoil your agenda. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk It absolutely does not. I reckon we will keep him for one more season but not a chance does an injury prevent his transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 7 March, 2017 Share Posted 7 March, 2017 Regarding Vvd staying or going, since we have been back in the premiership how often has a saints player resisted the lure of a bigger club?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 March, 2017 Share Posted 7 March, 2017 no it does not, not at all Can't see anyone wanting to sign a player who's been injured for 6 months and hasn't proven he can still compete at that level. Plus he's got 5 years left on his contract and that means he'd cost a buyer enough money over the "normal" rate that they're not going to gamble on someone who might not be at those levels. Now keeping him at Xmas when we're challenging the top 4, there's the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 Reading between the lines of the article in today's Echo, it seems we've seen the last of VVD. They wont rush him back - clearly trying to protect / maximise the transfer fee we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 Reading between the lines of the article in today's Echo, it seems we've seen the last of VVD. They wont rush him back - clearly trying to protect / maximise the transfer fee we get. That's one view, and possible, but they do also point out that there should be little to play for in the last few games, and therefore no point in risking him. Also insists it's not a serious injury - just needs time. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 Tweaked it for you... if a doom and gloom merchant read between the lines of the article in today's Echo, it seems we've seen the last of VVD. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15139325.Saints_cautious_over_van_Dijk/ Saints are keen not to put any definitive timescale on his comeback. They are still optimistic that van Dijk will be available to play again before the end of the season, but his involvement is unlikely to stretch beyond a handful of matches. Saints are also prepared to leave him out entirely for the remainder of the season if they are convinced it is in his best interests. Though some have suggested the club would do that to protect his value, with rumours of a £50m move away from St Mary’s this summer still swirling, they are focussed on his involvement for them next season. They want van Dijk to be fully fit and ready for a full pre-season, a first uninterrupted for Claude Puel following the disruption caused by last summer’s European Championships. The club are also aware that the chances of there being too much left to play for come the final few weeks of the season are fairly slim. Therefore, there is no point in them taking any unnecessary risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 Reading between the lines of the article in today's Echo, it seems we've seen the last of VVD. They wont rush him back - clearly trying to protect / maximise the transfer fee we get. Whereas if the story was "Les delighted with VVD progress" and about how he will be fully fit in no time, you'd "read between the lines" that we were delighted that he is back in the shop window because we were clearly trying to maximise the transfer fee we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 1 April according to "Physio Room" website..... Believe or disbelieve........but I guess its based on something better than a wild guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 "Guessing about guessing"...... hmm. Are we wiser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 1 April according to "Physio Room" website..... Believe or disbelieve........but I guess its based on something better than a wild guess. Fools Day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 1 April according to "Physio Room" website..... Believe or disbelieve........but I guess its based on something better than a wild guess. I think that's unlikely. Even if he does make a full recovery before the end of the season, I imagine he'll play in an U23 game first. So hopefully we'll get some indication of his return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 It absolutely does not. I reckon we will keep him for one more season but not a chance does an injury prevent his transfer. Tell that to Long John Silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 Smoke and mirrors about the seriousness by the club. Not sure how an injury that leaves a player out for months on end can not be described as serious. The real question is whether it is an injury that, while serious, will repair 100%; or if it going to leave a long term impairment. If the latter, then what % impairment and the impact on both technical ability and/or athletic performance over 90 minutes. Potential suitors for buying VVD will be watching and doing due diligence before parting with £50M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 1 April according to "Physio Room" website..... 8 April actually. Charlie and Matt Targett 1 April. Still staggered that McCarthy's hamstring has effectively ended his season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 On crutches in Nathan Redmond's instagram story this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Posted 8 March, 2017 Share Posted 8 March, 2017 My guess is that VVD broke a metatarsal and the info coming out does fit that theory. Not quite sure why Saints are being so secretive about it. Interesting to note Man City's reaction to Jesus' injury very open and frank about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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