Pass the Dutchie Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 (edited) Number 12 (Watford) against number 13 (Saints). On the opening day of the season we came back from 0-1 (9th minute goal by Capoue) when Redmond scored his debut goal for Saints in the 58th minute, for a 1-1 end result against 10 of them (Ben Watson was sent of for a challenge against Shane Long). Results from the past 10 years: 16 Sep 2007 Watford v Southampton W 3-2 League Championship 07 Apr 2009 Watford v Southampton D 2-2 League Championship 25 Feb 2012 Watford v Southampton L 0-3 League Championship 23 Aug 2015 Watford v Southampton D 0-0 Premier League If we play as well as we did in the EFL Cup final, we should have a good chance of winning this. Edited 27 February, 2017 by Pass the Dutchie
Shroppie Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 Will be hard to pick up the morale for this one. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
trousers Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 (edited) Forster Cedric Yoshida Cáceres Bertrand Romeu Davis © JWP Boufal Redmond Gabbiadini Subs: Hassen, McQueen, Stephens, Hojbjerg, Tadic, Long, JRod Injured/Dropped: McCarthy, Targett, Pied, Martina, Gardos, Van Dyke, Clasie, Reed, Sims, Austin Watford 0 Saints 2 (Gabbiadini, Cáceres) Edited 27 February, 2017 by trousers
Lighthouse Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 Got a feeling this could be a bit of an 'after the Lord Mayor's Show' performance and we will struggle to find motivation after such a heartbreaking late defeat. Let's hope not. I'd be tempted to go with the same team, maybe Hojbjerg in the middle and Sophie-Anne instead of Tadic. Would be good to see Caceres get some game time but I've no idea if he's fit enough to start yet.
Harry_SFC Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 Hassen Cedric Caceres Yoshida Bertrand Romeu Davis JWP Tadic Redmond Gabbiadini Subs: Forster, Stephens, McQueen, Hojbjerg, Boufal, Sims, Long.
fanimal Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 Same winning team please. Boufal needs to learn to look up and pass when he has beaten two players not try and take on the whole team! Lay off FF due a draw I would say.
Wiggles31 Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 Reckon it will be the same team. Would personally drop Forster. Fancy us taking out our anger/frustration on Watford. 2-0 win for me Gabbiadini and Redmond.
Dalek2003 Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 The ideal time to bounce back. The League Cup final may well have been a bit of an 'occasion' but the Premier League is much more important in the grand scheme. We need to get a point at least.
James Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 With Gabbi in such red hot form you've got to fancy at least a point here.
Give it to Ron Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 Time to give Hassen a chance surely? I know it was only a warm up but did anyone else watch him.....went through under and around him he hardly saved a shot. Worried! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ErwinK1961 Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 I know it was only a warm up but did anyone else watch him.....went through under and around him he hardly saved a shot. Worried! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sure you weren't watching Fraser?
Saint_clark Posted 27 February, 2017 Posted 27 February, 2017 Anyone got a spare ticket for this one?
Avenue_Saint Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Freshen it up. Hassen Cedric Caceres Yoshida Bertrand Romeu Hojbjerg Boufal Tadic Redmond Gabbiadini Subs: Forster, Stephens, Clasie/Sims, Davis, Jwp, Rodriguez, Long
alehouseboys Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Tough game, we'll need a lift. Everyone should take their EFL scarf to help recreate the cup final atmosphere. We need to keep the season going now.
JRM Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Agree wouldn't change much from the final line up, try to build a bit of consistency. I don't think Caceres deserves to come in yet until he's played a couple of u23 games and shows he can handle it. With only 2 games in March there is no need to rest any players with such long breaks between matches. Will be worrying if we do lose this with Spurs away next we could find ourselves going into April still on 30 points. Watford are a funny side, hard to beat but no great players in there. 1-1 draw my prediction.
Andy Durman Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 I think it's important to play the same team. Caceres must wait his turn. I'm not happy with Forster, but I know too little about Hassen to change our keeper. Stability
Batman Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Surely, can't revert to a crappy performance after Sunday. 2-0 to saints
Shroppie Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Surely, can't revert to a crappy performance after Sunday. Hopefully not, but this is Saints. ? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
doddisalegend Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Surely, can't revert to a crappy performance after Sunday. 2-0 to saints Every chance after the way the final played out that this will be an after the lord mayors show style performance
Tom28 Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Hassen, Cedric, Stephens, Yoshida, Bertrand Romeu JWP Davis Tadic Gabba Redmond Subs: Forster, Caceres, McQueen, Hojbjerg, Boufal, Long, JRod.
SKD Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Same team other than Caceres for Stephens. As well as we played it's easy to forget we conceded 3 and the 3rd was specifically Stephens fault for leaving the bank for 4 and not tracking Zlatan quick enough. Not taking anything away from the lad though, other than that he was alright and will learn from mistake but as we currently have a keeper who doesn't save anything, we need to sure up defense. Would be tempted to drop Forster, however we have no replacement for him. JWP, Redmond and Tadic have earned place in team following performance Sunday. It'll be interesting to see how we respond and how much Sunday has taken out of us.
Dellman Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 It's taken a lot out of me, i begin to understand Wwhy players are rested frequently
Shroppie Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Stephens is injured. On crutches Since when and how? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Kingsland Red Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 I know it was only a warm up but did anyone else watch him.....went through under and around him he hardly saved a shot. Worried! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We watched that, he dropped everything or it bounced off him, and that was only a warm up.
SFCRedandWhite Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Bring the EFL cup scarfs and keep the colour going!
Saint_clark Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Bring the EFL cup scarfs and keep the colour going! Absolutely this!
5string Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Freshen it up. Hassen Cedric Caceres Yoshida Bertrand Romeu Hojbjerg Boufal Tadic Redmond Gabbiadini Subs: Forster, Stephens, Clasie/Sims, Davis, Jwp, Rodriguez, Long I like this team, but I'd start JRod instead of Redmond.
eelpie Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 (edited) Freshen it up. Hassen Cedric Caceres Yoshida Bertrand Romeu Hojbjerg Boufal Tadic Redmond Gabbiadini Subs: Forster, Stephens, Clasie/Sims, Davis, Jwp, Rodriguez, Long Hojbjerg has played terribly since January, whilst JWP and Romeu were terrific against Manure, so why change? I'd like to see Long come on at some point when Gabbi is on the pitch, as he should have done on Sunday. Puel missed a trick there. And not sure about Hassen, though Fraser does need resting. Edited 28 February, 2017 by eelpie Damned intuitive correcting changing my spelling!
Avenue_Saint Posted 28 February, 2017 Posted 28 February, 2017 Hojbjerg has played terribly since January, whilst JWP and Romeu were terrific against Manure, so why change? I'd like to see Long come on at some point when Gabbi is on the pitch, as he should have done on Sunday. Puel missed a trick there. And not sure about Hassen, though Fraser does need resting. Hojbjerg would do well alongside Romeu in new formation. Also Davis played alongside Romeu as the 2 not Jwp. On the right of the 3 Boufal van beat a man and get in to key position, nog sure Jwp can do that. Not sure about Hassen either but has to be worth a try as Forster forget playing well is costing goals due to basic goalkeeping competence.
trousers Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Why on earth freshen it up? I wouldn't advocate "freshening up" the team just for the sake doing so, but Puel should pick the player mix that he feels is best placed to beat Watford. All opponents we play have different strengths and weaknesses. To blindly pick the same team simply because they played well in a final is sentiment over logic. Yes, I think his aim should be to maintain as much of the team that played so well on Sunday, but not just for the sake of doing so. I would start Cáceres (for Stephens) and Boufal (for Tadic) vs Watford as I think that will make us an even better team than the one that started vs Man Utd.
eelpie Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Hojbjerg would do well alongside Romeu in new formation. Also Davis played alongside Romeu as the 2 not Jwp. On the right of the 3 Boufal van beat a man and get in to key position, nog sure Jwp can do that. Not sure about Hassen either but has to be worth a try as Forster forget playing well is costing goals due to basic goalkeeping competence. I think it's going to be fascinating to see how Holbjerg/Romeu and JWP/Romeu combinations work in the coming weeks now that we only have league position to play for. I thought in the EFL JWP contributed to the fluency that dominated Manure, but perhaps a revitalised Hojbjerg is better against cloggers. I'm looking forward to the next matches.
nta786 Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 I think it's going to be fascinating to see how Holbjerg/Romeu and JWP/Romeu combinations work in the coming weeks now that we only have league position to play for. I thought in the EFL JWP contributed to the fluency that dominated Manure, but perhaps a revitalised Hojbjerg is better against cloggers. I'm looking forward to the next matches. I wonder how Jordy Clasie feels amongst all this- a Koeman signing but could not make the bench at Wembley
Sour Mash Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 I think it's going to be fascinating to see how Holbjerg/Romeu and JWP/Romeu combinations work in the coming weeks now that we only have league position to play for. I thought in the EFL JWP contributed to the fluency that dominated Manure, but perhaps a revitalised Hojbjerg is better against cloggers. I'm looking forward to the next matches. But it was Davis /Romeu against Man Utd?
SKD Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 But it was Davis /Romeu against Man Utd? Agree, however i'm not convinced that Davis is defensively strong enough to play as a 2.
Hatch Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Referee: Jonathan Moss Assistants: E Smart, H Lennard Fourth official: J Linington We have had Moss twice this season, winning both , West Ham and Norwich.
qwertyell Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Agree, however i'm not convinced that Davis is defensively strong enough to play as a 2. He isn't. Romeu needs a proper partner, not a stop gap, if we're going to be moving forward with 4-2-3-1. Hojbjerg looks the obvious fit from within the squad - Clasie and Reed are too lightweight, in my opinion. I wouldn't mind if the club went after another Chelsea fringe player - as Romeu and Bertrand were - in Chalobah, in the summer to fill the role. Good all round defensive midfielder, versatile, young, English. And unlikely to get much action ahead of Kante, Matic and Fabregas.
davefoggy Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Cáceres must start.....I'd stick him between the sticks
FriendlySaint Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Caceres in for Stephens. Hassen in for Forster. Other than that the same team and shape as Wembley.
FriendlySaint Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 He isn't. Romeu needs a proper partner, not a stop gap, if we're going to be moving forward with 4-2-3-1. Hojbjerg looks the obvious fit from within the squad - Clasie and Reed are too lightweight, in my opinion. I wouldn't mind if the club went after another Chelsea fringe player - as Romeu and Bertrand were - in Chalobah, in the summer to fill the role. Good all round defensive midfielder, versatile, young, English. And unlikely to get much action ahead of Kante, Matic and Fabregas. As far as I'm concerned Davis is a better defender, and reader of the game, than Hojbjerg. He's better on the ball. Better than everything but aerials. Literally the only thing Hojbjerg has on Davis is height, and Hojbjerg has been prone to not staying with his man on set pieces. No way would I be picking Hojberg over Davis.
Wimborne_saint Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Whoever said Stephens was injured and on crutches is wrong, he's training and in the training pics put up today https://southamptonfc.com/news/2017-03-01/gallery-southampton-training-march-1 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Pass the Dutchie Posted 1 March, 2017 Author Posted 1 March, 2017 Literally the only thing Hojbjerg has on Davis is height And age. Hojbjerg had some promising games earlier on. Let's hope his confidence grows once the results reflect the efforts more.
nta786 Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 And age. Hojbjerg had some promising games earlier on. Let's hope his confidence grows once the results reflect the efforts more. hojbjerg cannot shoot for sh*t!!! his speculative efforts haha love that he attempts them though, one of these days theyll go in.
Scully Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 hojbjerg cannot shoot for sh*t!!! his speculative efforts haha love that he attempts them though, one of these days theyll go in. Agreed! Weirdly I think Hojberg has gotten worse since the start of the season
derry Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 As far as I'm concerned Davis is a better defender, and reader of the game, than Hojbjerg. He's better on the ball. Better than everything but aerials. Literally the only thing Hojbjerg has on Davis is height, and Hojbjerg has been prone to not staying with his man on set pieces. No way would I be picking Hojberg over Davis. Davis made no effort to get up to the ball in the free kick goal, bent his knees and ducked his head came up after the ball went over. For the second failed to close down Rojo then didn't track him allowing the pass to the scorer, for the third goal he stood off Herrera with his hands behind his back and made no effort to close him down. For the first if he had been braver the ball would have been blocked and for second and third he was the only one that could have stopped the moves but as usual failed to get in close and hard. Davis is a lightweight and appears scared to tackle hard and avoids hard contact. He is not a ball winner.
Avenue_Saint Posted 1 March, 2017 Posted 1 March, 2017 Davis made no effort to get up to the ball in the free kick goal, bent his knees and ducked his head came up after the ball went over. For the second failed to close down Rojo then didn't track him allowing the pass to the scorer, for the third goal he stood off Herrera with his hands behind his back and made no effort to close him down. For the first if he had been braver the ball would have been blocked and for second and third he was the only one that could have stopped the moves but as usual failed to get in close and hard. Davis is a lightweight and appears scared to tackle hard and avoids hard contact. He is not a ball winner. Unfortunately a lot of this is relevant.
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