Saint Garrett Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko Feb 5 Sunderland want Sam Gallagher. No matter what division in. Bit in paper. Solent also reporting it. Not sure why we would let him go. Would be tempted to finally let JRod go in the summer and replace him with Gallagher, and let Long go and replace with a top striker.... Whats the chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 He is into the last year of his contract this summer so unless we can convince him to sign a new contract which will require some sort of promise of first team opportunities then he will be sold. Amusingly Everton have been sniffing according to the press as well which would be a real surprise given how Koeman ignored him when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I think he'll be given a new contract, he's played well and can see JRod moving on as looks off the pace apart from the odd game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I think he'll be given a new contract, he's played well and can see JRod moving on as looks off the pace apart from the odd game. Question is will he sign it or will he decide it's time to chance his arm elsewhere? I think your right if JROD moves on he will sign but if there isn't an obvious opening for him I can see him heading for the hills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 It would be shocking if we let him go. Clearly destined to be a good quality prem striker. His loan at blackburn is doing him the world of good and he is doing a fair bit to steer them out of a serious relegation scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Would be madness to sell him. I think he'll do well as cover to Austin next year who will need to be managed well given his injury record. A front 3 of Boufal - Austin - Gabbi with Tadic - Gallagher / Long - Redmond as cover is pretty strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 It would be shocking if we let him go. Clearly destined to be a good quality prem striker. His loan at blackburn is doing him the world of good and he is doing a fair bit to steer them out of a serious relegation scrap. It won't be up to us with regards to letting him go the ball is in his court, he will be entering the last season of his contract and is coming off the back of a decent loan season so he is sure to get offers elsewhere. I hope he stays and being realistic I think he will but if I were him I'd be asking for a rise and some sort of game time promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 He's developing well at Blackburn and my understanding is that he is highly thought of, hence the loan so there's no chance he won't be given a new contract and he really does have to be blooded into the first team next year. If the others who have come through are, he definitely must be. I expect he will be but I wonder how the rotation (and I hope Puel isn't here so it's moot) will affect him. It might help, but I suspect he will need a run of games. I do now expect JRod to go but equally I do expect, once he plays regularly, that he will be a very good player again. I can even see him going back to Burnley once they stay up and I agree he will need to have the opportunity to play a fair number of games. If it were the case that Puel didn't rate him and a case of him or Puel I'd take him and not just because I have no time for the latter but because I think he has the makings of a very very good player and if he and Seager could play up front it would be great. I didn't used to rate Seager but I've started to see what it is that people like in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 He will replace Jay Rod in the squad this summer. Funds from Jay Rod sale invested elsewhere (defence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 He will replace Jay Rod in the squad this summer. Funds from Jay Rod sale invested elsewhere (defence). IMO would make total sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 He will replace Jay Rod in the squad this summer. Funds from Jay Rod sale invested elsewhere (defence). The funds from JRod may be needed to fund Gallagher's wages if he's getting a new deal. What can we get for JRod now? £10m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 "No matter what division in" - they would say that wouldn't they? This is Sunderland making contingency for the possibility of next year in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 The funds from JRod may be needed to fund Gallagher's wages if he's getting a new deal. What can we get for JRod now? £10m? Hmm... well id imagine the funds from Jrods wages getting taken off the books would do that unless that's what you were implying whereas I think Lallana's Left peg was saying the initial fee we get for him would be used on a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Even if he doesn't sign a new deal, keep him as we will get a development fee if he moved at the end of contract. Nice to see Les Reed on the ball again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Even if he doesn't sign a new deal, keep him as we will get a development fee if he moved at the end of contract. Nice to see Les Reed on the ball again though. Don't think Les has dropped the ball here, Gallagher seemed to be going backwards until this loan to Blackburn got him firing again, people would have been quick to criticise if he'd signed a new lucrative long term contract last year. Not sure we will hang out for the development fee as it is such a lottery a bad season next year could see us get peanuts in compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I think the club sttod by him in difficult times, I hope he shows loyalty but there again the club might just take the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Duncan Holley seems to be a family friend and knows what is going on with Sam, if he hopes to get a new deal and continue with Saints Duncan would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Don't think Les has dropped the ball here, Gallagher seemed to be going backwards until this loan to Blackburn got him firing again, people would have been quick to criticise if he'd signed a new lucrative long term contract last year. Not sure we will hang out for the development fee as it is such a lottery a bad season next year could see us get peanuts in compensation. Understandable perspective but I'd still have tied a deal down by Nov and there were posts urging a new deal to be offered. Maybe Les did and Sam said no? Either way, I wouldn't sell him and hope that he repays club for supporting him through the dark days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Don't think Les has dropped the ball here, Gallagher seemed to be going backwards until this loan to Blackburn got him firing again, people would have been quick to criticise if he'd signed a new lucrative long term contract last year. Not sure we will hang out for the development fee as it is such a lottery a bad season next year could see us get peanuts in compensation. Oh and happy birthday Alex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 If it was Arsenal or Man U showing interest... but Sunderland? Sam has scored a few against Championship defences granted but if like me you've been watching Channel 5 footie on Saturday's not many of his goals have been down to outstanding individual brilliance. A few of the Greaves variety in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 He could go to them on loan is they're in the Championship next season. I'd rather have him in the squad than either Long or J-Rod on this seasons showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 At least if we had him in the squad some of our floated crosses might actually hit a saints player on the head for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I think the club sttod by him in difficult times, I hope he shows loyalty but there again the club might just take the money Not really true Nick. Sam actually turned out for Saints the day his dad died but Koeman never even once spoke to him in the two years he was here. Hardly standing by him. He has worked v hard at Blackburn but Saints are showing no inclination in opening contract talks up to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Not really true Nick. Sam actually turned out for Saints the day his dad died but Koeman never even once spoke to him in the two years he was here. Hardly standing by him. He has worked v hard at Blackburn but Saints are showing no inclination in opening contract talks up to now. More mismanagement by Reed. He has earned some credits for his strategy over an excellent few years, but this year seems as though he has been hitting the crack pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Big summer striker wise. Decisions to be made on Jay, Austin and Long as well as Gallagher and possibly Seager too. IMO would try to ship out Long and Austin and go back to the drawing board - both have too big a flaw in their game to be a long term bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Big summer striker wise. Decisions to be made on Jay, Austin and Long as well as Gallagher and possibly Seager too. IMO would try to ship out Long and Austin and go back to the drawing board - both have too big a flaw in their game to be a long term bet. I don't really trust us to make good decisions on strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I don't really trust us to make good decisions on strikers. What position do we currently make good decisions on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 What position do we currently make good decisions on ? Best midfield options in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 What position do we currently make good decisions on ? Centre ba... oh wait Midfi... no Did we really have one of the strongest defences in the prem over the last couple of seasons? When we lose now we seem to lose big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Best midfield options in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Big summer striker wise. Decisions to be made on Jay, Austin and Long as well as Gallagher and possibly Seager too. IMO would try to ship out Long and Austin and go back to the drawing board - both have too big a flaw in their game to be a long term bet. Yea right Charlie's only scored 9 goals this season in 16 app we could get so much better NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Not really true Nick. Sam actually turned out for Saints the day his dad died but Koeman never even once spoke to him in the two years he was here. Hardly standing by him. He has worked v hard at Blackburn but Saints are showing no inclination in opening contract talks up to now. If we let him go then it'll just about sum up Les Reed this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Big summer striker wise. Decisions to be made on Jay, Austin and Long as well as Gallagher and possibly Seager too. IMO would try to ship out Long and Austin and go back to the drawing board - both have too big a flaw in their game to be a long term bet. Agree. Strike force needs a total overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 If we receive any kind of offer for any of our players they'll be gone. It's what we do, and we're brilliant at it. Gallagher will do well for Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 If we receive any kind of offer for any of our players they'll be gone. It's what we do, and we're brilliant at it. Gallagher will do well for Sunderland. Yep. Best of luck to Rodriguez at Sunderland as well after that bid we accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 Yep. Best of luck to Rodriguez at Sunderland as well after that bid we accepted. Great response to a daft post. J Rod to Sunderland is fine, doesn't want to be at SFC. Sam Gallagher to SAFC not fine. Would rather see a new deal offered and if not, we have a season out of him and take the development fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 Great response to a daft post. J Rod to Sunderland is fine, doesn't want to be at SFC. Sam Gallagher to SAFC not fine. Would rather see a new deal offered and if not, we have a season out of him and take the development fee. I've watched a lot of Sam this season, much improved player in a struggling team and Charlie Wayman is wrong, some of his goals are individual efforts (see the one v Wolves). I have a feeling this could end up as another big mistake if a contract is not offered sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 I know top strikers are the preserve of the well-funded elite but we do seem to be gathering a collection of forwards who are not quite there - it's all a bit quantity over quality at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 I know top strikers are the preserve of the well-funded elite but we do seem to be gathering a collection of forwards who are not quite there - it's all a bit quantity over quality at the moment. As is well documented, the bestest clubs go for quality over quantity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 I've watched a lot of Sam this season, much improved player in a struggling team and Charlie Wayman is wrong, some of his goals are individual efforts (see the one v Wolves). I have a feeling this could end up as another big mistake if a contract is not offered sooner or later. Hi FF - is he a back to goal - holds the ball and brings others in or a face to goal - playing along the line on the shoulder type of striker - from the little i've seen him play for Saints it was the back to goal type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 Hi FF - is he a back to goal - holds the ball and brings others in or a face to goal - playing along the line on the shoulder type of striker - from the little i've seen him play for Saints it was the back to goal type. 'Back to goal' centre forwards are history nowadays which is why Pelle had so many poor games. Easy to mark and generally too slow to catch up with play and arrive in the box when the ball comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 'Back to goal' centre forwards are history nowadays which is why Pelle had so many poor games. Easy to mark and generally too slow to catch up with play and arrive in the box when the ball comes in. For his size Gallagher has some pace about him. To me, he looks like a natural goal scorer and has played on the wing for U23's a couple of years ago. I actually think he'd suit our style and would fit into a diamond. I'd say from that comment above you have seen very very little of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 'Back to goal' centre forwards are history nowadays which is why Pelle had so many poor games. Easy to mark and generally too slow to catch up with play and arrive in the box when the ball comes in. So which is he? Cos if your right and, he is a back to goal type then perhaps the club will not offer him a contract as he is a dinosaur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 Lets be honest, as at the start of this season he wasn't worth a new contract. He had 2 years to go on this current one and had endured a very disappointing season last year, failing to get into a L1 team. He has done really well this season which is great and Im sure Saints will be trying at the right time to offer him a new deal - to protect a value increasing asset if nothing else. Can hardly blame them in this case for the action they have taken. If Gallagher accept or rejects that offer when it comes is up to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 He's got good feet for a big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 In all seriousness, Gabbiadini already looks a better all-round player than any of our other strikers. Given that, I would be happy enough with Rodriguez leaving and Gallagher coming into the squad. Not sure what Long's contract situation is. If that's winding down then I wouldn't be that fussed if he left and was replaced by a promising youngster as well. I think the area that needs most attention in the summer (CB aside) is midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 In all seriousness, Gabbiadini already looks a better all-round player than any of our other strikers. Given that, I would be happy enough with Rodriguez leaving and Gallagher coming into the squad. Not sure what Long's contract situation is. If that's winding down then I wouldn't be that fussed if he left and was replaced by a promising youngster as well. I think the area that needs most attention in the summer (CB aside) is midfield. Signed a new one this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 Long has a contract to do f**k all until June 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 Long has a contract to do f**k all until June 2020 Dont understand what you mean, a contract to do **** all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 8 February, 2017 Share Posted 8 February, 2017 I've watched a lot of Sam this season, much improved player in a struggling team and Charlie Wayman is wrong, some of his goals are individual efforts (see the one v Wolves). I have a feeling this could end up as another big mistake if a contract is not offered sooner or later. It's Saints, the contract will be last minute and he'll have already decided to f**k off by then, with the words "but we offered him a contract" ringing around the helmetforums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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