Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 No 10pm announcement...Will be announced tommorow then I'd imagine. We've had some 11pm announcements before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylambert Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 We've had some 11pm announcements before... Sadio Mane was a highlight for me. Toby as well. They were deadline day mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 The last out of contract player we signed after deadline day was a key factor in us staying up, Arthur Boruc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 There speaks a man of experience [emoji6] Each agonising pelvic thrust subjugating the club further towards the relegation zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADutchSaint Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Excellent. Sounds like we might get lucky and have signed a gem' date=' if we can get him match fit quickly.[/quote'] The guy hasn't played a match on high level in over a year and has been struggling with injuries last few season's. He is not going to be match fit anytime soon. It's a big name and he brings experience but a gem? Im not holding my breath and it all looks like a signing out of desperation to me. Hope I'm wrong tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Can't see them being any higher than Fonte's wages. I don't know how big signing on fees are these days but for a man with fitness issues who's been out of contract for a while, I can't see it being extortionate. Normally that'd be true. But we're as desperate as Desperate Dan in Desperateville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 (edited) The guy hasn't played a match on high level in over a year and has been struggling with injuries last few season's. He is not going to be match fit anytime soon. It's a big name and he brings experience but a gem? Im not holding my breath and it all looks like a signing out of desperation to me. Hope I'm wrong tho. I agree, it's not the ideal way to sign someone in what is a key position for us right now. I guess, for me though, I see someone who comes with real pedigree & who will have passed two thorough medicals, one with Milan & now one with us, to give some reassurance his injury problems are behind him. As a centre back, I'd imagine it could take less time to reach the requisite match fitness than say a central midfielder, so I'm hopeful it won't be too long. Time will tell, I guess... Edited 6 February, 2017 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 If he signs, he'll be the second Caceres to be on Saints books, I think? Anyone remember Adrian Caceres coming through the ranks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlb79 Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 If he signs' date=' he'll be the second Caceres to be on Saints books, I think? Anyone remember Adrian Caceres coming through the ranks?[/quote'] Aussie nipper wasn't he? Hope Martin is more of a success........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Let's get one thing straight, this is a desperate move by a desperate club at a desperate time. This isn't our type of signing at all, this is a club going into total panic that they are being sucked into a relegation battle and that they may embarrass themselves in a cup final, this lad was most probably near the bottom of the pile on the black box. His injury record, current level of fitness and huge wages tell you everything you need to know. That being said he is an experienced international with pedigree and we need someone desperately, although the more I think about it the more I suspect it will be a disaster, hope I am 100% wrong. If Les gets away with this one he is one jammy bar steward. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Let's get one thing straight, this is a desperate move by a desperate club at a desperate time. This isn't our type of signing at all, this is a club going into total panic that they are being sucked into a relegation battle and that they may embarrass themselves in a cup final, this lad was most probably near the bottom of the pile on the black box. His injury record, current level of fitness and huge wages tell you everything you need to know. That being said he is an experienced international with pedigree and we need someone desperately, although the more I think about it the more I suspect it will be a disaster, hope I am 100% wrong. If Les gets away with this one he is one jammy bar steward. COYR Good post. Palace turned him down but we can't sign him quick enough, what does that tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Good post. Palace turned him down but we can't sign him quick enough, what does that tell you? It tells you that Crystal Palace had more foresight in keeping their options open in case they didn't get Sakho. Or to see which one of them would get on better with the manager. But other than that it tells you as much as Palace losing 4-0 to Sunderland tells you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Good post. Palace turned him down but we can't sign him quick enough, what does that tell you? That Palace have a full squad of 25 and we don't? Milan tried to sign him, so he can't be that bad. Do you want us to address the CB issue, or do you want to carry on complaining that we didn't? That is aimed at a what seems to be a majority on here, by the way. The situation is not ideal, admittedly, but this is the best opportunity to make the best of a ****ty situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 That Palace have a full squad of 25 and we don't? Milan tried to sign him, so he can't be that bad. Do you want us to address the CB issue, or do you want to carry on complaining that we didn't? That is aimed at a what seems to be a majority on here, by the way. The situation is not ideal, admittedly, but this is the best opportunity to make the best of a ****ty situation. Palace turned him down because they got Sakho. Caceres was their back up option in case their deadline day attempts to get Sakho failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 That Palace have a full squad of 25 and we don't? Milan tried to sign him, so he can't be that bad. Do you want us to address the CB issue, or do you want to carry on complaining that we didn't? That is aimed at a what seems to be a majority on here, by the way. The situation is not ideal, admittedly, but this is the best opportunity to make the best of a ****ty situation. Correct. Best of a bad situation. An extra body and his experience tells me once fit will be our number one choice (whilst VVD out). Hope so anyway. Hope it also lifts Stephens' game too just by being an extra body in the squad in his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Let's get one thing straight, this is a desperate move by a desperate club at a desperate time. This isn't our type of signing at all, this is a club going into total panic that they are being sucked into a relegation battle and that they may embarrass themselves in a cup final, this lad was most probably near the bottom of the pile on the black box. His injury record, current level of fitness and huge wages tell you everything you need to know. That being said he is an experienced international with pedigree and we need someone desperately, although the more I think about it the more I suspect it will be a disaster, hope I am 100% wrong. If Les gets away with this one he is one jammy bar steward. COYR Unfortunately you are right. If he's a great success it'll be more luck than due to our self lauded great planning. The whole things has been a farce, the club knew for months Fonte wanted to leave, i read somewhere that once he did our top targets price went up by £5m. Well whose fault it that? Other clubs knew we were desperate and were trying to get a bit more cash out of us and who could blame them. They had us over a barrel particularly as only a few days later we lost our only decent centre half to a long term injury. Then because we try to do things on the cheap we're left scrambling around after the window shuts trying to sign players who haven't played for a year. The whole thing has been an absolute shambles and not a business in control. I have a lot of respect for les Reed for what he's done for the club since he's been here but the last year or so it's seems like he's lost his way, two poor transfer Windows, a poor choice of manager and now clearly not in control or so great at planning as he tells everyone he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Doing things on the cheap always costs you more in the long run Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 At least due to our light schedule in Feb he has a month to get fit and probably play some U23 games. Watford on March 4th his likely first appearance for the first team, if he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 At least due to our light schedule in Feb he has a month to get fit and probably play some U23 games. Watford on March 4th his likely first appearance for the first team, if he signs. You don't think he'd play the Cup Final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 You don't think he'd play the Cup Final? No. He hasnt played for a year, has been injured and possibly not doing much training. Doubt he would make a first start in a cup final. He will need a mini pre season to get anywhere near fit enough. Watford is much more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 You don't think he'd play the Cup Final? Depends how fit he is...big ask and tough on Stephens if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Depends how fit he is...big ask Definitely. and tough on Stephens if he does. Not sure how much we should care about this if it means we can win something for the first time in ages. If he's better, he should start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Definitely. Not sure how much we should care about this if it means we can win something for the first time in ages. If he's better, he should start. Oh definitely, I'm not saying he shouldnt start if hes fit. Was just stating that it would be tough on Stephens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Has he signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Doing things on the cheap always costs you more in the long run Hmmmm Maybe just maybe this was planned in a way by the club Tasci lets put it out there we tried to get him .....but lets not meet his demands , Sakho ...do we believe they really refused us a Loan option but gave one to Palace .....why would they do that Perhaps the club were quite happy to go with no new CB and pocket the 8M from the Fonte sell and the wage reduction . If you look at the options that were available it seems incredible that one of them could not be done , Maguire 10m no that means spending money , Jagialka maybe . There were options that could have been closed. The debacle on saturday against spam and the abuse the directors box got may have pushed there hand and here is where we now are. If he gets fit he may be a viable replacement for Fonte , he has the experience and ability certainly , but lets not lose sight of what has been achieved here .....net income 8M and huge reduction in wage bill against a free agent ...job done Les well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Doing things on the cheap always costs you more in the long run Hmmmm Maybe just maybe this was planned in a way by the club Tasci lets put it out there we tried to get him .....but lets not meet his demands , Sakho ...do we believe they really refused us a Loan option but gave one to Palace .....why would they do that Perhaps the club were quite happy to go with no new CB and pocket the 8M from the Fonte sell and the wage reduction . If you look at the options that were available it seems incredible that one of them could not be done , Maguire 10m no that means spending money , Jagialka maybe . There were options that could have been closed. The debacle on saturday against spam and the abuse the directors box got may have pushed there hand and here is where we now are. If he gets fit he may be a viable replacement for Fonte , he has the experience and ability certainly , but lets not lose sight of what has been achieved here .....net income 8M and huge reduction in wage bill against a free agent ...job done Les well done This is a load of crap. Doubt it's a reduction in the wage bill either, and he's probably got a large signing on fee to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 This is a load of crap. Doubt it's a reduction in the wage bill either, and he's probably got a large signing on fee to boot. Just balancing out the defence situation .....Gabbadini cost us money but I am just comparing Fonte (our highest wage earner ) + 8M ....a six month contratc with option for a further year will not cost us the same money no way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 (edited) Doing things on the cheap always costs you more in the long run Hmmmm Maybe just maybe this was planned in a way by the club Tasci lets put it out there we tried to get him .....but lets not meet his demands , Sakho ...do we believe they really refused us a Loan option but gave one to Palace .....why would they do that Perhaps the club were quite happy to go with no new CB and pocket the 8M from the Fonte sell and the wage reduction . If you look at the options that were available it seems incredible that one of them could not be done , Maguire 10m no that means spending money , Jagialka maybe . There were options that could have been closed. The debacle on saturday against spam and the abuse the directors box got may have pushed there hand and here is where we now are. If he gets fit he may be a viable replacement for Fonte , he has the experience and ability certainly , but lets not lose sight of what has been achieved here .....net income 8M and huge reduction in wage bill against a free agent ...job done Les well done Jesus. Do most people just believe the comments sections on facebook? They never refused us a loan deal. They preferred a sale but when no one wanted to buy him they accepted the Palace loan deal. WE backed out because of his wage demands and Liverpools loan fee. Edited 7 February, 2017 by Shance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Oh definitely, I'm not saying he shouldnt start if hes fit. Was just stating that it would be tough on Stephens... Don't let the fact Stephens isnt good enough get in the way. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I hope the club are not panicking as much as most seem to be on here. We are struggling but we are not relegation material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I hope the club are not panicking as much as most seem to be on here. We are struggling but we are not relegation material. Aren't we? That's what they probably said about Leicester as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Not really sure what to make of the potential Caceres signing. I know Fonte leaving was pretty much inevitable over the last few months, and financially we seem to have done fantastically well out of a bloke who will be turning 34 this year, but I'd still rather have kept him until the end of the season (unless his presence truly was having a negative effect on the squad). Age wise, Caceres is a bit "out there" compared to our usual type of signing, but as a short-term deal he SHOULD be just about perfect for our situation. A lot will depend on his attitude and whether he settles in quickly, I'm not really bothered about his lack of games and injury record to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I hope the club are not panicking as much as most seem to be on here. We are struggling but we are not relegation material. 6 league defeats in the last 7 games including 3 Home defeats plus a Cup Spanking by Arsenal would suggest we are making a pretty good attempt at getting there :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Has he signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 His biography is one injury after the other. Never managed more than a few months in a row. Hopefully this time those months can be february to june. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Has he signed yet? So many ITKs have told us it's done, he's definitely here etc etc. Look out for his unveiling at Saints (or Sunderland) by lunchtime I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 All a bit quiet on this. Is he signed? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Has he signed yet? Should be within the next couple of hours if manji's source is accurate... Announcement later. Cheers for info Manji. By "later" do you mean "later tonight" or "later this week"? Tonight or tomorrow morning. Doesn't matter we have got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Couple of points raised.... Let's get one thing straight, this is a desperate move by a desperate club at a desperate time. This isn't our type of signing at all, this is a club going into total panic that they are being sucked into a relegation battle and that they may embarrass themselves in a cup final, this lad was most probably near the bottom of the pile on the black box. His injury record, current level of fitness and huge wages tell you everything you need to know. That being said he is an experienced international with pedigree and we need someone desperately, although the more I think about it the more I suspect it will be a disaster, hope I am 100% wrong. If Les gets away with this one he is one jammy bar steward. COYR I'm not one for panicking, but recent form, home and away puts us in the bottom three. Most of the sides below are in really poor form too at the moment (could be that's why they are below us), but it would only take another two or three defeats for us and we could be struggling down there too It tells you that Crystal Palace had more foresight in keeping their options open in case they didn't get Sakho. Or to see which one of them would get on better with the manager. But other than that it tells you as much as Palace losing 4-0 to Sunderland tells you. I didn't see that CP had Yosh, Stevens or Gardos on their radar in case the Sakho deal fell through. I don't think any of those three would be a first choice CB for (m)any team in the prem at the moment. And that's why it's worth bringing in, even an old crock, to give more options at the back. And to be fair after the WHU game we need them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 His biography is one injury after the other. Never managed more than a few months in a row. Hopefully this time those months can be february to june. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/verletzungen/spieler/54935 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Goes to Sunderland? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Who have no money. If we can't afford the wages, I doubt they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Who have no money. If we can't afford the wages, I doubt they can And has been repeated many times. They have a full 25 man squad. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/verletzungen/spieler/54935 Not great reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 I hope the club are not panicking as much as most seem to be on here. We are struggling but we are not relegation material. 6 losses out of 7. Poor play. Defence leaking goals, heading fast towards the bottom three. At what point do you think it valid to get a bit worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Chris Samba available on a free. Caceres available on a free. Both better than our current options. Time to take a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 No. He hasnt played for a year, has been injured and possibly not doing much training. Doubt he would make a first start in a cup final. He will need a mini pre season to get anywhere near fit enough. Watford is much more realistic. I disagree. Assuming he signs today and then trains tomorrow he'll have 2 and half weeks to embed himself in the team and can squeeze in an U23 game against Everton on 20th (6 days before the final). Whilst he hasn't been at a club I'd be very surprised if he hasn't been keeping himself fit. If he hasn't, then he doesn't strike me as very professional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/verletzungen/spieler/54935 Take the gamble to get him ready for the final and then manage him after that! Not great reading though - would also be tempted to get Mexes in as well. After all, we needed a CB to replace Fonte (Caceres) and arguably 1 to cover for VVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Chris Samba available on a free. Caceres available on a free. Both better than our current options. Time to take a punt. Cant think of anyone worse than Chris Samba. Would take Callum Davenport over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 Cant think of anyone worse than Chris Samba. Would take Callum Davenport over him When school finishes look him up. You'll be pleasantly surprised. Both these players provide a solidity and presence that our current options do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 February, 2017 Share Posted 7 February, 2017 When school finishes look him up. You'll be pleasantly surprised. Both these players provide a solidity and presence that our current options do not. Chris Samba... Shut up mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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