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Shance

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No one think it was a well run window and the cb thing has been a monumental c*ck up which could seriously impact our season. Having said that, there is nothing we can do about it at all other than to sign this bloke and hope it works out. I am annoyed that the club allowed this to happen but won't be moaning at the club for going with the one option now available to them. This makes the most sense given the options available.

 

You've basically just agreed with my first post.

Dusic

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Good time to bring him in as can have 3/4 weeks to get fit as only one league game still to come in Feb. Give him a good fitness programme and some U23 games and bring him in from March.

 

No brainer signing even on decent money as no transfer or loan fee. Option for next year too incase he is worth keeping.

Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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He was a very good player but he has been crippled by injuries, is semi-retired and would fail a medical at most clubs ( but not Southampton). However, in the event we can get him fit enough to play a few games before he needs treatment again, and he still has full mobility, he should improve our defence. The fact that he crashed his Ferrari into a bus stop whilst drunk at the wheel suggests he hasn't been taking very good care of himself though.

 

It will be surprising if he is anywhere near fit enough as the last time he was able to play was more than a year ago. This is what happened to his career before he stopped playing:

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2015

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2014

Saint_Ash

Saint_Ash

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He was a very good player but he has been crippled by injuries, is semi-retired and would fail a medical at most clubs ( but not Southampton). However, in the event we can get him fit enough to play a few games before he needs treatment again, and he still has full mobility, he should improve our defence. The fact that he crashed his Ferrari into a bus stop whilst drunk at the wheel suggests he hasn't been taking very good care of himself though.

 

It will be surprising if he is anywhere near fit enough as the last time he was able to play was more than a year ago. This is what happened to his career before he stopped playing:

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2015

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2014

 

Apart from he has just passed a rigorous medical at Milan. Are you just going to whinge whatever the club do?

saintwbu

saintwbu

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He was a very good player but he has been crippled by injuries, is semi-retired and would fail a medical at most clubs ( but not Southampton). However, in the event we can get him fit enough to play a few games before he needs treatment again, and he still has full mobility, he should improve our defence. The fact that he crashed his Ferrari into a bus stop whilst drunk at the wheel suggests he hasn't been taking very good care of himself though.

 

It will be surprising if he is anywhere near fit enough as the last time he was able to play was more than a year ago. This is what happened to his career before he stopped playing:

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2015

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2014

 

Wikipedia tells me the drink driving incident was late 2015, he's played since then. It could be the only time he's ever ingested alcohol in his life for all we know.

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

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Apart from he has just passed a rigorous medical at Milan. Are you just going to whinge whatever the club do?

 

You answered the question for him

 

Why are players written off so soon on here...?

There when Franny scored

There when Franny scored

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Apparently, he did also pass the medical at Milan who were once famed for their sports science department (credited for allowing Maldini to play until 40+):

 

Talking to Mediaset Premium ahead of AC Milan’s home clash against Sampdoria, Galliani has confirmed that Caceres won’t be joining AC Milan.

 

“I can confirm that he will not be joining us. Our offer was not in line with his requests and could not manage to reach an economic agreement. He had successful medical but that was not enough. I can only wish him good luck for the future.”

 

http://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/breaking-free-agent-defender-snubs-ac-milan-transfer-considers-m-39844

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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I'm not grumbling. I'm stating a fact you helmet.

Why is there no use grumbling?

 

 

 

What an utter tool you are! You've literally just contradicted yourself. Asking why there is no use in grumbling and then saying you aren't doing it! Only on saintsweb can someone essentially agree with you and end up insulting you because they can't actually grasp what was posted...

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Careful Shance, he will try to get you banned... and the fact you described him to a tee is why i have him on ignore ;)

No one tried to get you banned, you did a great job of getting a temporary suspension yourself. Here's hoping that another one isn't too long in coming.

Toomer

Toomer

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Signs, gets fit, gets MOTM keeping Ibrahimovic quiet in the cup final.

 

Tis the dream.

 

The 2017 Bobby Stokes as he pop's up with the winner as well.

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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No one tried to get you banned, you did a great job of getting a temporary suspension yourself. Here's hoping that another one isn't too long in coming.

 

You posted several times suggesting that Always should be banned permantly. And you call me a liar!!

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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You posted several times suggesting that Always should be banned permantly. And you call me a liar!!

I wasn't "trying to get him banned" soggy I was giving an opinion. Attempting to get someone banned would involve lobbying the mods, not that I would be that lame or that I could be bothered to try. I know you have difficulty with understanding.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Put him on ignore mate, i have and he can talk to himself

I know mate, you've mentioned it in about 4 posts today, even going to the trouble of starting a new thread that mentions me. Seems slightly pointless to stick me on ignore if you're just going to keep talking about me.

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Saint Albert

Saint Albert

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can they de-register players??

 

My understanding from what I read yesterday is a team can only change one of the 25 in exceptional circumstances. The example provided of an exceptional circumstance was a goalkeeping crisis.

labibs

labibs

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The player is in a very strong position to demand big wages. Wonder how that will go...

Les, you need to pull this one off, big time

 

Is he though? The Express report that Milan offered him £4k basic and £21k per appearance, so roughly £25kpw. Which he turned down, presumably on the chance of earning more over here. If we offer him £40k final offer and he turns it down, what does he do? Sit on his a*se for the rest of the season and have even more time out of the game when he tries to negotiate a deal in the summer?

DT

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Is he though? The Express report that Milan offered him £4k basic and £21k per appearance, so roughly £25kpw. Which he turned down, presumably on the chance of earning more over here. If we offer him £40k final offer and he turns it down, what does he do? Sit on his a*se for the rest of the season and have even more time out of the game when he tries to negotiate a deal in the summer?

 

Goes to Sunderland?

 

 

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adrian lord

adrian lord

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Wikipedia tells me the drink driving incident was late 2015, he's played since then. It could be the only time he's ever ingested alcohol in his life for all we know.

 

Unlikely. And on the other hand, collecting two drink driving convictions is virtually pathognomonic of alcoholism. So is he a teetotaller who got unlucky or a hopeless old soak? Probably neither, but it is hardly a glowing reference.

saintmonkey1979

saintmonkey1979

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Unlikely. And on the other hand, collecting two drink driving convictions is virtually pathognomonic of alcoholism. So is he a teetotaller who got unlucky or a hopeless old soak? Probably neither, but it is hardly a glowing reference.

Yet we all carried on cheering Beattie, Fernandes and Guly (there may be more, but those 3 spring to mind more readily). But hey, beat him down before he has even kicked a ball for us. Makes sense

adrian lord

adrian lord

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Yet we all carried on cheering Beattie, Fernandes and Guly (there may be more, but those 3 spring to mind more readily). But hey, beat him down before he has even kicked a ball for us. Makes sense

 

All 3 were rightly censured on here.

 

I repeat, it's hardly a glowing reference, a drink-driving conviction after crashing into a bus stop, is it? People, families and children congregate and wait around at bus stops.

saintwbu

saintwbu

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Unlikely. And on the other hand, collecting two drink driving convictions is virtually pathognomonic of alcoholism. So is he a teetotaller who got unlucky or a hopeless old soak? Probably neither, but it is hardly a glowing reference.

 

I can't seen any reference to another drink driving conviction, but yes I wasn't genuinely suggesting it to be the only time he'd ever had a drink before. As someone below me points out, plenty of them have done it, if we ruled out new signings on the basis of their moral compass I think we'd find it very difficult.

SKD

SKD

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Signed, was shown round the training ground this afternoon

 

Looking at your recent posts I very much doubt you know anything about this so won't get excited just yet.

adrian lord

adrian lord

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I can't seen any reference to another drink driving conviction, but yes I wasn't genuinely suggesting it to be the only time he'd ever had a drink before. As someone below me points out, plenty of them have done it, if we ruled out new signings on the basis of their moral compass I think we'd find it very difficult.

 

I agree, but it is all part of the due diligence when weighing up a signing - character and application and conscientiousness play a part as well as footballing talent. We are usually quite good at it, the odd slip aside (Osvaldo!). But we may need to make allowances and take risks on this guy that we wouldn't ordinarily do, given the hole we are in at the back.

 

Indeed, he has all the hallmarks of a typical January panic signing!

DT

DT

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If Milan couldn't reach his wage demands, it's possible he might only sign for us within our budget if offered a 6 month deal to put him in the shop window.

 

Worth it

 

 

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Worth it

 

 

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He has to play well to be in the shop window, that'll do me for the rest of the season.

 

Yeah, I agree. Would be an interesting opportunity for all involved.

del boy

del boy

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Signs, gets fit, gets MOTM keeping Ibrahimovic quiet in the cup final.

 

Tis the dream.

Signs, gets crocked first game because he's not fit. takes wages to end of season, leaves, joins "x" becomes one of the players of the 2017/18 PL season - tis the nightmare

ohgulydoprado

ohgulydoprado

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If Milan couldn't reach his wage demands, it's possible he might only sign for us within our budget if offered a 6 month deal to put him in the shop window.

 

You do realise Milan have no where near our financial clout? They aren't what they once were at all, as mentioned above

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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You do realise Milan have no where near our financial clout? They aren't what they once were at all, as mentioned above

 

They may not, but we have a self enforced budget that we won't be going over. His last club was Juve and he's getting towards the end of his career so more than possible he's demanding upwards of £100k a week on a long deal.

a1ex2001

a1ex2001

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If Milan couldn't reach his wage demands, it's possible he might only sign for us within our budget if offered a 6 month deal to put him in the shop window.

 

Fine with me, we can all re-evaluate in the summer then.

Leo_ARG

Leo_ARG

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@gonzaloronchi1 Martín Cáceres en minutos comenzará la revisión médica con @SouthamptonFC. Ayer se llegó a un principio de acurdo en lo económico.

 

 

Uruguayan journalist tweeted half an our ago:

 

"Martin Caceres will have his medical with @SouthamptonFC in a couple of minutes. He reached an economic agreement with the club yesterday".

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