Badger Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 So, South American recently playing in Serie A, work permits, recovering from an injury, probably not match fit... Seems it has the hallmarks of a classic Saints signing. Nice one Les, it was all so avoidable
DT Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 So, South American recently playing in Serie A, work permits, recovering from an injury, probably not match fit... Seems it has the hallmarks of a classic Saints signing. Nice one Les, it was all so avoidable We basically shop in TK Maxx Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
VectisSaint Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 So, South American recently playing in Serie A, work permits, recovering from an injury, probably not match fit... Seems it has the hallmarks of a classic Saints signing. Nice one Les, it was all so avoidable Hasn't played since February 2016 having just come back from injury in January. Even if we get him, hardly likely to be ready for Sunderland or Man U is he (though he may be more fit that Florin Gardos looks). Still may help with the run-in/relegation fight from March to May.
SW5 SAINT Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Get him in with the promise of a place in the cup final and a million bonus if we win it. and another million if we stay up!
Badger Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Hasn't played since February 2016 having just come back from injury in January. Even if we get him, hardly likely to be ready for Sunderland or Man U is he (though he may be more fit that Florin Gardos looks). Still may help with the run-in/relegation fight from March to May. After yesterday this is probably the more critical consideration
Dusic Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 He was on trial at Palace so they must be in a decent position to sign him. We also know from Sakho that overpaying isn't as much of a factor for them as it seem to be for us. Also the work permit mustn't be seen as a challenge. He wouldnt turn down AC Milan for the PL only to find he cannot sign for anyone in England. Biggest concern with Cacares is his last game was Feb 2016 (he only played 6 or 7 times for Juve last season) and he has been a free agent for 7 months. Is it really worth the money? I guess due to our awful CB position it probably is, but would certainly take him time to get match fit. We have to look at it, but the fact the competition is Palace and Sunderland says it all. He isn't suddenly going to be a saviour but if fit would add experience and options.
Colinjb Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Would provide vital experience. If he can prove his fitness, then why not?
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 He was on trial at Palace so they must be in a decent position to sign him. We also know from Sakho that overpaying isn't as much of a factor for them as it seem to be for us. Also the work permit mustn't be seen as a challenge. He wouldnt turn down AC Milan for the PL only to find he cannot sign for anyone in England. Biggest concern with Cacares is his last game was Feb 2016 (he only played 6 or 7 times for Juve last season) and he has been a free agent for 7 months. Is it really worth the money? I guess due to our awful CB position it probably is, but would certainly take him time to get match fit. We have to look at it, but the fact the competition is Palace and Sunderland says it all. He isn't suddenly going to be a saviour but if fit would add experience and options. Apparently AC Milan only offered him a basic of about 4K a week plus 25K per match started. Can probably get more from TV punditry or China than that so it was a no go.
buctootim Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Hasn't played for over a year, out of contract for 9 months. Smacks of desperation to me, not the much trumpeted uber slick and planned Southampton way.
St Chalet Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Hasn't played for over a year, out of contract for 9 months. Smacks of desperation to me, not the much trumpeted uber slick and planned Southampton way. I'd suggest that we are desperate.
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I'd suggest that we are desperate. And yet we have Gardos and Stephens both of whom, as I am assured by my coforumees, are good players and perfectly up to the task of stepping up whilst VvD is out and José figures out that he should be back here.
SuperSAINT Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I'd suggest that we are desperate. Yeah, we didn't plan this 2 years in advance.
Dark Munster Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 The deal will probably depend if we have enough space in the treatment room for him.
harvey Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Shades of Olivier Bernard. Exactly!, this season has got c*********k written all over it including the manager and playing personel......very reminicent of the season we went down.
supersonic Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 so let me get this straight, people would rather have Gardos than someone who's played for both Barcelona and Juventus?
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 so let me get this straight, people would rather have Gardos than someone who's played for both Barcelona and Juventus? Well no but any assertion that Gardos has been and probably always will be a total waste of time and money seems always to be met with WTF comments from some here.
Marching Halos Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 29 year old defender that also plays as a good full back on both sides, has played 66 times for Juventus and 13 times at Barcelona, has a 1st and 2nd place Champions League medal. also has a la liga and 5 Serie A medals plus 6 other cups medals. played for Uruguay 66 times played at 2 world cups and won copa america with them... gardos, yoshida and jack 3rd 4th and 5th back up defenders i'l say lets stick with yoshida and jack
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Hasn't played for over a year, out of contract for 9 months. Smacks of desperation to me, not the much trumpeted uber slick and planned Southampton way. Anyone who saw game yesterday will be much better in favour of this. Can't do any worse that is for certain Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 The sort of no nonsense defender I find endearing, even if he can be overly aggressive at times. He'd be an upgrade on what we have so it makes sense. I wouldn't be against him signing.
Saint Albert Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I picked this up from one of the Palace forums: in order to sign a free agent a PL team has to have a spare slot available on the roster of 25 squad players submitted by Feb 3. Palace submitted a full squad of 25, so cannot sign Caceres. I wonder if any of our residents rules experts agree with this?
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I picked this up from one of the Palace forums: in order to sign a free agent a PL team has to have a spare slot available on the roster of 25 squad players submitted by Feb 3. Palace submitted a full squad of 25, so cannot sign Caceres. I wonder if any of our residents rules experts agree with this? Well yes, no point in signing a player if you already have 25 senior pros named on your roster because you can't change it until summer now.
Saint Martini Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 He hasn't played enough percentage of Uruguay games to qualify for permit He's played in Spain for several seasons, I assume he got himself a Spanish passport during that time.
Ken Tone Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 29 year old defender that also plays as a good full back on both sides, has played 66 times for Juventus and 13 times at Barcelona, has a 1st and 2nd place Champions League medal. also has a la liga and 5 Serie A medals plus 6 other cups medals. played for Uruguay 66 times played at 2 world cups and won copa america with them... gardos, yoshida and jack 3rd 4th and 5th back up defenders i'l say lets stick with yoshida and jack i don't know anything about us bloke apart from having heard his name a few times. Genuine question ..... How does he come to be a free agent then?
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 i don't know anything about us bloke apart from having heard his name a few times. Genuine question ..... How does he come to be a free agent then? Lot of injuries at Juve I think, probably asking for a great deal of money as well, could even be a bit choosy I suspect..
Saint Albert Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Saints named a 23 man squad, so there may be an opening for a free agent player.
Harry_SFC Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 He is a very good defender, the obvious issue is the fact he hasn't played for god knows how long. You'd imagine he wouldn't be up to speed until March, thankfully we only have 1 league game until then.
saintwbu Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I just always remember thinking how ridiculous his shorts always looked because he wore them so low down! Other than that, I know nothing about him, but let's just sign him
St Chalet Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Saints named a 23 man squad, so there may be an opening for a free agent player. I hope you are right, however this is from the official site. https://www.premierleague.com/news/322804
Nolan Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I hope you are right, however this is from the official site. https://www.premierleague.com/news/322804 I can only count 23 players of ours in the 25 man squad on there. What's the issue?
St Chalet Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I hope you are right, however this is from the official site. https://www.premierleague.com/news/322804 Although when you count them there is only 23!
St Chalet Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Worth noting Sunderland have the full 25 man allocation.
Saint Albert Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I hope you are right, however this is from the official site. https://www.premierleague.com/news/322804 I took mine from a way better source (the Daily Mirror!) Anyway I count 23 players on the PL's list.
St Chalet Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 I can only count 23 players of ours in the 25 man squad on there. What's the issue? The summary at the top says 25 players.
hypochondriac Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 So other than this article, is there any other sign that we would actually sign him other than desperation?
VectisSaint Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 The summary at the top says 25 players. As it does for every team. It's just a heading.
Saint Albert Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 There's only three PL teams with full 25 man senior squads: Palace, Swansea and Sunderland.
hypochondriac Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 There's only three PL teams with full 25 man senior squads: Palace, Swansea and Sunderland. As two of them have been linked with this player, that's a positive for us surely?
DuncanRG Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 As desperate grabs go, this guy's not a bad one but it's all a bit Sunderland, isn't it?
hypochondriac Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 As desperate grabs go, this guy's not a bad one but it's all a bit Sunderland, isn't it? It's not like we have much of a choice.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 From Jorge Baravalle, apparently a journo on Fox Sports, on Twitter: "Attention. The Uruguayan Martín Cáceres, who did not fix his contract with Milan, will play in Southampton."
Heisenberg Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 If hes fit and ready to go then why not Read somewhere hes played less than 100 games in the last 7 years? Take it hes injury prone and his reputation has dropped and dropped as a result of injuries rather than form? We are desperate so.....
DuncanRG Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 It's not like we have much of a choice. Indeed, which is why we can be pretty pleased if we get him in.
BotleySaint Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 He seems worth a gamble. But if nowhere near match fit - won't help much at first and then VVD will be back?
Badger Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 If hes fit and ready to go then why not Read somewhere hes played less than 100 games in the last 7 years? Take it hes injury prone and his reputation has dropped and dropped as a result of injuries rather than form? We are desperate so..... Three and a half year contract on £100,000 a week it is then.
St Chalet Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 Not sure why folk are worried about overpaying. a) it is not your money b) we are tighter than a ducks arse.
Guan 2.0 Posted 5 February, 2017 Posted 5 February, 2017 He seems worth a gamble. But if nowhere near match fit - won't help much at first and then VVD will be back? If he passed a medical and the staff estimated a wait time of 1-2 weeks before match fitness would you take him?
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