Saintsteve7 Posted 30 April, 2017 Share Posted 30 April, 2017 Just goes to show how much top level football is in the mind and decision making. Eden Hazard being the classic example, has all the same technical attributes that Boufal has but his decision making is 10x better. If I was on the saints coaching staff I'd seriously sit him down and show him a load of clips of Hazard and tell him that's the player he should model himself on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 May, 2017 Share Posted 1 May, 2017 Wouldnt be so quick to blame Puel. Boufal has a massive attitude problem which was displayed after the game, where he let a lot of people down. Young and talented but this guy obviously avoided the black box 'down to earth' setting. Hopefully he'll learn quickly, otherwise he'll be shown the door. We still had the "Osvaldo" filters saved whilst searching for him. TBF, a google search told me he was talented but had attitude last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 1 May, 2017 Share Posted 1 May, 2017 We still had the "Osvaldo" filters saved whilst searching for him. TBF, a google search told me he was talented but had attitude last summer. I posted about his reputation before he signed. Got the normal "negative post" reaction from the happies https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57004-Sofiane-Boufal-DONE-DEAL&p=2389515#post2389515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 Last night, what the hell was going on in his head, at times he was just stood there motionless like a shop dummy! He really does himself no favours and almost encourages us to critisise him, frankly he's embarrassing especially when compared to the effort show by JWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 He came on late so should have been fresh as a daisy, either lost the ball or someone else did, and as you say, stood around looking disinterested. He's got wonderful feet but....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 We have a wonderfully skilful player on our books with Boufal. Supporters need to give this young player some time. We can never know the impact for someone of his age moving abroad - money does not make any difference sometimes - and the general consensus from pundits and ex players is about 6 months to settle but some will take longer and given his injury he deserves a full pre season and to be judged through next season. Like Redmond we have 2 very talented attacking players.If we could add Sigurdsen to those two behind Gabbiadini/Austin/New striker it could be very exciting!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I thought he came on and did what you'd want him to, he impacted the game and opened the space up. Seemed to pick the right passes when in the number 10 position to get us wide, and it almost worked. Don't think he did anything to warrant criticism last night, he's had plenty of worse cameos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I don't see why people are always so quick to criticise any players close to 'flair' players that we seem to have! Did fine last night, seemed to look for the pass quicker than he usually does. One thing he does need to cut out of his game however is the petulance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 Reece, I can tell you why I did it, but cannot speak for others. Don't get me wrong, I like him as a player, and I like the quick feet. Sure he loses the ball quite a lot, but in past games he tries hard to win it back, quite often succeeding. But last night when the ball was lost, he didn't try to get it back. Just stood there doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 Harsh to criticize him for yesterday. Did some good moves and passes. Shame that people jump on his back already.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I thought he came on and did what you'd want him to, he impacted the game and opened the space up. Seemed to pick the right passes when in the number 10 position to get us wide, and it almost worked. Don't think he did anything to warrant criticism last night, he's had plenty of worse cameos. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 There is no doubt he has ability, I think he knows he had the ability. Obviously the down time he had following surgery at the end of last season has not helped, and I think the petulance is more as a result of frustration with himself not doing what he knows he can do, sensed more recently that maybe he is trying a little too hard. The time to really start judging him will be after a full pre season and a few games next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I thought he did very well when he came on - I remember 4 separate occasions he got the ball in the centre circle and ran right at the centre of the Man U defence before realising the only pass on was to the right wing, where we proceeded to do the usual, overplay it and Man U cleared. Anyone criticising that performance just wasn't watching. He's also cut down on the biggest problem he had previously as well, which was overenthusiasm to get involved and almost chase the ball sometimes when we had players already in those positions - to that end the standing still in space was a good thing. He ran when he was meant to. I will accept that his one shot was pants, though that hardly makes him stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 Harsh to criticize him for yesterday. Did some good moves and passes. Shame that people jump on his back already.. Not having a go at you, but I note you posted at 8.47pm last night so presume you weren't at the game. Maybe the cameras didn't show him off the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I thought he did very well when he came on - I remember 4 separate occasions he got the ball in the centre circle and ran right at the centre of the Man U defence before realising the only pass on was to the right wing, where we proceeded to do the usual, overplay it and Man U cleared. Anyone criticising that performance just wasn't watching. He's also cut down on the biggest problem he had previously as well, which was overenthusiasm to get involved and almost chase the ball sometimes when we had players already in those positions - to that end the standing still in space was a good thing. He ran when he was meant to. I will accept that his one shot was pants, though that hardly makes him stand out. That's patent bull's hit. I think it justifiable to criticise his off ball laziness. He just stood there on more than one occasion watching the game go by. Anyone who says otherwise "just wasn't watching". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 Much better last night and created lots out of nothing but he still doesn't seem to be an integral part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I think he looked a lot more dangerous than Tadic or Redmond when he came on last night. Give him a full pre season and hopefully he'll become an integral part of the team. To do that we should sell Tadic IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 Has the ability to beat two or three players with absolute ease, which he did once or twice last night. Does have a tendency however to want to do it too deep. He will however, not be given time to adapt and improve, he is exactly the sort of player that fans love to hate unfortunately. We could have a brilliant player on our hands who is capable of turning games on their head, something we have been crying out for all season to make something out of the nice football we play up until the final third. But there's a good chance he won't be given the chance to be that player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I thought Redmpond was more wasteful last night tbf. The odd thing is the amount of talented players we have all misfiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I thought he did very well when he came on - I remember 4 separate occasions he got the ball in the centre circle and ran right at the centre of the Man U defence before realising the only pass on was to the right wing, where we proceeded to do the usual, overplay it and Man U cleared. Anyone criticising that performance just wasn't watching. He's also cut down on the biggest problem he had previously as well, which was overenthusiasm to get involved and almost chase the ball sometimes when we had players already in those positions - to that end the standing still in space was a good thing. He ran when he was meant to. I will accept that his one shot was pants, though that hardly makes him stand out. Agree with this and post on not judging a young player so soon into his career in a foreign country Players like Boufal will ALWAYS give the ball away more than players like Romeu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I'm not his biggest fan but it's absolutely bonkers to criticise him last night. He gave us something different when he came on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 I always get the feeling that he tries too hard, but right now is ultimately falling short. Like in a school report, you have your grade and you have a commitment. If 1 was someone really committed and trying and in school always put their hands up etc, and 4 was the lazy one then... I'd give him a B1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 He clearly had talent, remember that Sunderland game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 18 May, 2017 Share Posted 18 May, 2017 Actually to be fair initially he seemed pretty lazy at closing down and not chasing back, but later in the game he was actually doing it quite a lot, at one point he started an attack doing it. At a guess he might have been annoyed at the booing when he came on. He definitely looks comfortable playing that no.10 role and it means we get some closer to the lone striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 Still a bit angry from last night, however just like Clasie it has to be pretty obvious that he does not fit in with the English game (I was sat by the dugout and really had to bite my tongue at the final whistle). I wish him no ill, however if a French team made an offer for him I'd cut our loses and let him leave, I really don't think his awareness and defending will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 Still a bit angry from last night, however just like Clasie it has to be pretty obvious that he does not fit in with the English game (I was sat by the dugout and really had to bite my tongue at the final whistle). I wish him no ill, however if a French team made an offer for him I'd cut our loses and let him leave, I really don't think his awareness and defending will improve. Surely, he should be played as the man just off the striker (gabbi) Him being stuck out wide is ridiculous. However, 2 managers (so far) have seen it best to put him there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 We don't seem to have much luck with these number 10 types. But personally, with Lemina and Romeu in the central area, I'd be tempted to give him a free role - just go and do the business. I think his game is limited if he's stuck to a specific position or asked to track back. That's not saying he shouldn't do that, but those sort of players need a more fluid role in the side imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 Must be just me then. Whilst I admit he was responsible for some "lazy" passing last night (then again who wasn't?) I also saw some very good close control and some excellent passes threaded through the Wolves defence. In fact when looking at this forum at half time last night one or two people had him down as one of our best players in the first half. I am not saying that he is the finished article but in my opinion he needs to be used properly and have a good run in the team. He is certainly not the liability that a lot make out. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 I'd rather he start every week and play himself into good form, and just drop Tadic. Tadic has played more bad games in the last year than Boufal has made appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 ... I also saw some very good close control and some excellent passes threaded through the Wolves defence... The best description is that he 'flatters to deceive', there were moments but nothing more than that, watching him box himself into a corner again and again was so painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 I'd rather he start every week and play himself into good form, and just drop Tadic. Tadic has played more bad games in the last year than Boufal has made appearances. I don't think Tadic has played well since Koeman left - and the insufferable prima donna hated playing for him. Probably because Ronald wouldn't put up with his crap. He was supposedly happy to "finally" be playing in his "best position" at 10, under Puel, but he was predictably disappointing and soon started complaining about being substituted all the time for being predictably disappointing. Frankly, for the one or two good games he might give you per season, he's just not worth it. In my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 August, 2017 Share Posted 24 August, 2017 We don't seem to have much luck with these number 10 types. But personally, with Lemina and Romeu in the central area, I'd be tempted to give him a free role - just go and do the business. I think his game is limited if he's stuck to a specific position or asked to track back. That's not saying he shouldn't do that, but those sort of players need a more fluid role in the side imo. For once I agree with you. He also needs games, it's so hard to get a rhythm going when you make occasional forays from the bench. He has skill and has a better attitude to Tadic so I would give him 10 games on the bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Boufal could be off to Spain (the transfer window is still open there) http://lionsdelatlas.ma/20965-sofiane-boufal-veut-quitter-southampton-pour-l-espagne To sum up - Doesn't have confidence in Pellegrino. He promised him playing time but hasn't had it. He's asked his agent to find him another team in another country. Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla are interested. Saints don't want to sell him. Boufal wants a loan move. Some Ligue 1 clubs were interested but Boufal is refusing to go back to France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Can't blame him. Needs to be starting games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Boufal could be off to Spain (the transfer window is still open there) http://lionsdelatlas.ma/20965-sofiane-boufal-veut-quitter-southampton-pour-l-espagne To sum up - Doesn't have confidence in Pellegrino. He promised him playing time but hasn't had it. He's asked his agent to find him another team in another country. Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla are interested. Saints don't want to sell him. Boufal wants a loan move. Some Ligue 1 clubs were interested but Boufal is refusing to go back to France. Would be crazy to loan him out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Would be crazy to loan him out now. And it won't happen this window anyway. As I noted yesterday, he's been dropped by Morocco and that won't have pleased him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Boufal could be off to Spain (the transfer window is still open there) http://lionsdelatlas.ma/20965-sofiane-boufal-veut-quitter-southampton-pour-l-espagne To sum up - Doesn't have confidence in Pellegrino. He promised him playing time but hasn't had it. He's asked his agent to find him another team in another country. Villarreal, Valencia and Sevilla are interested. Saints don't want to sell him. Boufal wants a loan move. Some Ligue 1 clubs were interested but Boufal is refusing to go back to France. OMG. im like...WTF!! I would revise my 8/10 to a 6/10 if we let him go (which I highly doubt we will before anyone spazzes out at me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I don't blame him for being annoyed tbh. Hope he starts against Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 He just needs games, which I really hope he gets. Must be frustrating for him to see the likes of Redmond and Tadic getting constantly picked ahead of him, and constantly underperforming. Give him a run of games MoPe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I don't blame him for being annoyed tbh. Hope he starts against Watford. He needs a run of games and I would be a little sad if he left without getting a decent opportunity. When he has the ball he also needs to stop running into walls of defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Would be surprised if he leaves for Spain, was just in the Tesco Express in Kings' Worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I'm in the King Charles. Was he heading this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC-TID! Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I know he runs into defenders and he's a bit frustrating but he is the only one to actually try to run at defenders and try to be creative and try to make things happen. Tadic and Redmond play sideways, sideways, backwards crap. He must get a run in the team. He's ball mastery is amazing. I'm certain he could excel with a run in the team. He played most of the preseasons which won't help his mood now. Must be frustrating watching Tadic and Redmond flounce about and not get picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Would be surprised if he leaves for Spain, was just in the Tesco Express in Kings' Worthy. Colin's ITK moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 OMG. im like...WTF!! I would revise my 8/10 to a 6/10 if we let him go (which I highly doubt we will before anyone spazzes out at me) Spazzes? Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Boufal should be starting games IMO. We payed a club record (at the time) for a creative player and we're crying out for creativity. Yes, he can be frustrating but that's possibly due to a lack of consistent game time. Chicken and egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Boufal should be starting games IMO. We payed a club record (at the time) for a creative player and we're crying out for creativity. Yes, he can be frustrating but that's possibly due to a lack of consistent game time. Chicken and egg. Don't start all that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I'm in the King Charles. Was he heading this way? Say hi if he was, they've done a great job with the refit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 Last season in 32 games Redmond scored 7 times and did 1 assist, in 30 games tadic scored 3 goals and 5 assists. On those stats Tadic has to drop out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 September, 2017 Share Posted 1 September, 2017 I don't recall Tadic doing anything of note against Huddersfield. Redmond may have missed a few opportunities but at least he was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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