Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 If he's unsackable then we're relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He answers to no one. He should be sacked for singing Redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Can't stop letting in goals? Answer is to sell one of the best defenders in the world. Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Does the black box have a number of replacements identified and rated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Does the black box have a number of replacements identified and rated ? Our 'black box' was Paul Mitchell. Maybe if we could get rid of Old Les we could get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 All I know Reed has done is get the last 2 managerial appointments wrong. If he gets a third wrong, we're relegated. All I know he's done is the only two things he's got wrong. I am conveniently ignoring all the good work that has gone into the club from the time he arrived till appointing Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I’ll reserve judgement until after January. Despite others claiming we have ‘great players’ this squad is poor and Reed is responsible. We have a January transfer window where we must be active. Three players minimum. And a new manager. If we sit on our hands and do nothing than he will be to blame for whatever happens come the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Can't stop letting in goals? Answer is to sell one of the best defenders in the world. Genius! This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Just go now and take Black and Watson with you.Then we can get Mitchell and possibly Korean as well to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydenhamssocks Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He’s had his fun at no cost to himself. Get him out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Just go now and take Black and Watson with you.Then we can get Mitchell and possibly Korean as well to come back. That should read 'Koeman' of course. We also need to get rid of Ross Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugalsaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Les Reed is now entitled to take SRP and should retire with good grace. We need young blood, forward thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Isn't there a poll for Pellegrino, stay or go? Maybe I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 (edited) I’ll reserve judgement until after January. Despite others claiming we have ‘great players’ this squad is poor and Reed is responsible. We have a January transfer window where we must be active. Three players minimum. And a new manager. If we sit on our hands and do nothing than he will be to blame for whatever happens come the end of the season. Hodet, Cedric, Bertrand, Lemina, Romeu, PEH (on recent form), Boufal (when he finds consistency), Tadic, Gabbi & Austin (you can’t knock his scoring record) are good enough for top 10 of the PL at least. We are in desperate need of a few players (a big no9, some pace out wide and some more creativity in the middle) make no mistake, but we also need a manager whos first priority is to win. Under Puel and MP we’ve been more concerned about defeat and that seems to have taken all confidence we had under the koeman season out of us. When we play on the front foot we have looked 100x better than trying to defend the edge of our box. Edited 26 December, 2017 by SKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Hodet, Cedric, Bertrand, Lemina, Romeu, PEH (on recent form), Boufal (when he finds consistency), Tadic, Gabbi & Austin (you can’t knock his scoring record) are good enough for top 10 of the PL at least. We are in desperate need of a few players (a big no9, some pace out wide and some more creativity in the middle) make no mistake, but we also need a manager whos first priority is to win. Under Puel and MP we’ve been more concerned about defeat and that seems to have taken all confidence we had under the koeman season out of us. When we play on the front foot we have looked 100x better than trying to defend the edge of our box. 10 players though isn’t good enough. Need a better squad. We do need to play on the front foot. Rodgers would significantly improve us I feel. Sadly I’m not sure he’ll come until the end of the season, and it might be too late by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Think Les is in last chance saloon. He’s earned the right to sort the mess out, all clubs make a dodgy managerial decision every now and again. His career rests on the next appointment - get it wrong and were down, get it right and invest the VVD well and we will be in decent shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 10 players though isn’t good enough. Need a better squad. We do need to play on the front foot. Rodgers would significantly improve us I feel. Sadly I’m not sure he’ll come until the end of the season, and it might be too late by then. Agree. Recuirtment in terms of managers and squad players hasn’t been good enough. There was a time we would only sign players to improve our starting 11, for some reason (probably EL) that changed last summer. Interesting that we also seem to have appointed 2 managers insistent on rotation, the season after we lost our fitness coach and replaced them with sport science people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 26 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 26 December, 2017 F. Ing useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Why is it we have had a few manager out polls but every time we ask for a Reed out poll it gets swerved ? We paid our cash give us our poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He has presided over a continuous decline in respect to every aspect of our club. There is no point changing manager whilst he is still calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Why is it we have had a few manager out polls but every time we ask for a Reed out poll it gets swerved ? We paid our cash give us our poll Absolutely, let’s have a poll up on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He has presided over a continuous decline in respect to every aspect of our club. There is no point changing manager whilst he is still calling the shots. He’s presided over a huge rise and then a decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I’d be interested to see the results of a poll like this. Les Reed does seem to fall out with a few people doesn’t he? Koeman’s probably a non starter as manager for that reason. Les has also fallen out with VVD and Morgan. There’s probably other examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 i have friends from Charlton who warned me years ago that this would happen, strange thing is i can almost forgive him for first team issues BUT his big selling point was the Southampton Way with production line from academy that has ground to a halt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I’d be interested to see the results of a poll like this. Les Reed does seem to fall out with a few people doesn’t he? Koeman’s probably a non starter as manager for that reason. Les has also fallen out with VVD and Morgan. There’s probably other examples. He didn't even respond to Lallana's phone calls FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Yep, must be sacked imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Its easy to say 'get him out, get him out' but who is there to come in? and what do the Chinese know about who's who in football? And who and what does the Canadian ice hockey fellow know? Maybe Les is a better bet after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Sack. He got lucky with Koeman. Last two managers have seen the good work started by Cortese eroded. He was never the man to fulfil the ‘Southampton way’ philosophy. Get Cortese back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Sack. He got lucky with Koeman. Last two managers have seen the good work started by Cortese eroded. He was never the man to fulfil the ‘Southampton way’ philosophy. Get Cortese back!! Koeman was arguably a Paul Mitchell appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 26 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He was assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South when appointed to look after our youth academy and clearly snaked into his current role. Hes killed all the momentum, positives and feel good that Cortese delivered. Reed can F.Off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Who slots into Reed's place then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Who slots into Reed's place then? Personally, I’d get rid off Les and Ross Wilson and bring back Mitchell in a more senior role, overseeing both roles. You’d probably save on salary as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He was assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South when appointed to look after our youth academy and clearly snaked into his current role. Hes killed all the momentum, positives and feel good that Cortese delivered. Reed can F.Off You need a les reed and barry gale xmas special to cheer you up, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 i have friends from Charlton who warned me years ago that this would happen' date=' strange thing is i can almost forgive him for first team issues BUT his big selling point was the Southampton Way with production line from academy that has ground to a halt[/quote'] On Saturday we had Targett, Ward-Prowse and Stephens in the starting line-up and brought McQueen on as sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 On Saturday we had Targett, Ward-Prowse and Stephens in the starting line-up and brought McQueen on as sub.All except jwp are being played because we have injuries and there is no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Can you we have a poll please. He’s been protected far too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 He was assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South when appointed to look after our youth academy and clearly snaked into his current role. Hes killed all the momentum, positives and feel good that Cortese delivered. Reed can F.OffYou forgot to mention Charlton Athletic sweetheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 I’ll reserve judgement until after January. Despite others claiming we have ‘great players’ this squad is poor and Reed is responsible. We have a January transfer window where we must be active. Three players minimum. And a new manager. If we sit on our hands and do nothing than he will be to blame for whatever happens come the end of the season. It is not the squad ! It is the coaching staff and most of all Manager. Not forgetting the most culpable of all- those at the top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 26 December, 2017 Share Posted 26 December, 2017 All except jwp are being played because we have injuries and there is no choice. And your point is??? We have barely had an injury all season so please don’t come the injury crisis line oh no that will not wash....!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Think Les is in last chance saloon. He’s earned the right to sort the mess out, all clubs make a dodgy managerial decision every now and again. His career rests on the next appointment - get it wrong and were down, get it right and invest the VVD well and we will be in decent shape. Inclined to agree that if you review his time at the club he has earned the right to try sorting it but it isn't just the managerial decisions that underline the doubts over his position. In addition to this: - transfer windows, - the CB fiasco last January - failure to sign a striker when goals were obviously going to be scarce - the VD issue; staggering that with the back four already weakened by losing both FB's we elect to let VD sit it out. Not sure Reed sees this as a "career" at his age so much as a continuing salary until retirement. Never mind he's probably groomed Ross Wilson to take over the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Where's the poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Where's the poll? Les's cronies won't let us have one as i said they always swerve it every time we ask ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Sack. He got lucky with Koeman. Last two managers have seen the good work started by Cortese eroded. He was never the man to fulfil the ‘Southampton way’ philosophy. Get Cortese back!! Have to say this is very true. Cortese had some down sides but he was an out and out winner... We are now happy with mediocrity as a club and in some cases it appears to be a few fans too. This attitude is a fast track to failure which Cortese would not have stood for.. There is far too much old pals act going on in the club too which breeds a comfort zone mentality... I would rather have winners running my team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Any MODS care to explain why this thread is being ignored? It's a reasonable request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 The longer he persists with the failure that is Pellegrino, the more unreasonable it seems. I am genuinely surprised that Reed is still sticking with this manager. Having Pellegrino still here can’t help when it comes to attracting transfer targets. Reed is really making a bad situation worse right now with what seems to be blind (possibly motivated by covering his own arse) loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 December, 2017 Author Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Poll mods? Can we get a Reed out poll? Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Bump Yawn.... So obsessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 27 December, 2017 Share Posted 27 December, 2017 Is there anyone at Southampton football club we shouldn't get rid of? Anyone at all doing a half decent job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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