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Les Reed - In or Out?  

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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All I know Reed has done is get the last 2 managerial appointments wrong.

 

If he gets a third wrong, we're relegated.

 

All I know he's done is the only two things he's got wrong. I am conveniently ignoring all the good work that has gone into the club from the time he arrived till appointing Puel.

Pamplemousse

Pamplemousse

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I’ll reserve judgement until after January.

 

Despite others claiming we have ‘great players’ this squad is poor and Reed is responsible. We have a January transfer window where we must be active. Three players minimum. And a new manager.

 

If we sit on our hands and do nothing than he will be to blame for whatever happens come the end of the season.

Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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Just go now and take Black and Watson with you.Then we can get Mitchell and possibly Korean as well to come back.

That should read 'Koeman' of course. We also need to get rid of Ross Wilson.

SKD

SKD

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I’ll reserve judgement until after January.

 

Despite others claiming we have ‘great players’ this squad is poor and Reed is responsible. We have a January transfer window where we must be active. Three players minimum. And a new manager.

 

If we sit on our hands and do nothing than he will be to blame for whatever happens come the end of the season.

 

Hodet, Cedric, Bertrand, Lemina, Romeu, PEH (on recent form), Boufal (when he finds consistency), Tadic, Gabbi & Austin (you can’t knock his scoring record) are good enough for top 10 of the PL at least.

 

We are in desperate need of a few players (a big no9, some pace out wide and some more creativity in the middle) make no mistake, but we also need a manager whos first priority is to win. Under Puel and MP we’ve been more concerned about defeat and that seems to have taken all confidence we had under the koeman season out of us.

 

When we play on the front foot we have looked 100x better than trying to defend the edge of our box.

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Pamplemousse

Pamplemousse

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Hodet, Cedric, Bertrand, Lemina, Romeu, PEH (on recent form), Boufal (when he finds consistency), Tadic, Gabbi & Austin (you can’t knock his scoring record) are good enough for top 10 of the PL at least.

 

We are in desperate need of a few players (a big no9, some pace out wide and some more creativity in the middle) make no mistake, but we also need a manager whos first priority is to win. Under Puel and MP we’ve been more concerned about defeat and that seems to have taken all confidence we had under the koeman season out of us.

 

When we play on the front foot we have looked 100x better than trying to defend the edge of our box.

 

10 players though isn’t good enough. Need a better squad.

 

We do need to play on the front foot. Rodgers would significantly improve us I feel. Sadly I’m not sure he’ll come until the end of the season, and it might be too late by then.

aintforever

aintforever

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Think Les is in last chance saloon. He’s earned the right to sort the mess out, all clubs make a dodgy managerial decision every now and again. His career rests on the next appointment - get it wrong and were down, get it right and invest the VVD well and we will be in decent shape.

SKD

SKD

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10 players though isn’t good enough. Need a better squad.

 

We do need to play on the front foot. Rodgers would significantly improve us I feel. Sadly I’m not sure he’ll come until the end of the season, and it might be too late by then.

 

Agree.

 

Recuirtment in terms of managers and squad players hasn’t been good enough.

 

There was a time we would only sign players to improve our starting 11, for some reason (probably EL) that changed last summer.

 

Interesting that we also seem to have appointed 2 managers insistent on rotation, the season after we lost our fitness coach and replaced them with sport science people.

simo

simo

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Why is it we have had a few manager out polls but every time we ask for a Reed out poll it gets swerved ? We paid our cash give us our poll :hunt:

saint1977

saint1977

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Why is it we have had a few manager out polls but every time we ask for a Reed out poll it gets swerved ? We paid our cash give us our poll :hunt:

 

Absolutely, let’s have a poll up on this

DuncanRG

DuncanRG

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He has presided over a continuous decline in respect to every aspect of our club. There is no point changing manager whilst he is still calling the shots.

 

He’s presided over a huge rise and then a decline.

Saint Albert

Saint Albert

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I’d be interested to see the results of a poll like this. Les Reed does seem to fall out with a few people doesn’t he? Koeman’s probably a non starter as manager for that reason. Les has also fallen out with VVD and Morgan. There’s probably other examples.

70's Mike

70's Mike

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i have friends from Charlton who warned me years ago that this would happen, strange thing is i can almost forgive him for first team issues BUT his big selling point was the Southampton Way with production line from academy that has ground to a halt

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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I’d be interested to see the results of a poll like this. Les Reed does seem to fall out with a few people doesn’t he? Koeman’s probably a non starter as manager for that reason. Les has also fallen out with VVD and Morgan. There’s probably other examples.

 

He didn't even respond to Lallana's phone calls FFS. ;)

Dellman

Dellman

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Its easy to say 'get him out, get him out' but who is there to come in? and what do the Chinese know about who's who in football? And who and what does the Canadian ice hockey fellow know? Maybe Les is a better bet after all

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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Sack. He got lucky with Koeman. Last two managers have seen the good work started by Cortese eroded. He was never the man to fulfil the ‘Southampton way’ philosophy. Get Cortese back!!

 

Koeman was arguably a Paul Mitchell appointment.

Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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He was assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South when appointed to look after our youth academy and clearly snaked into his current role.

 

Hes killed all the momentum, positives and feel good that Cortese delivered.

 

Reed can F.Off

SKD

SKD

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Who slots into Reed's place then?

 

Personally, I’d get rid off Les and Ross Wilson and bring back Mitchell in a more senior role, overseeing both roles.

 

You’d probably save on salary as well.

shurlock

shurlock

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He was assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South when appointed to look after our youth academy and clearly snaked into his current role.

 

Hes killed all the momentum, positives and feel good that Cortese delivered.

 

Reed can F.Off

 

You need a les reed and barry gale xmas special to cheer you up, pal.

itchen

itchen

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i have friends from Charlton who warned me years ago that this would happen' date=' strange thing is i can almost forgive him for first team issues BUT his big selling point was the Southampton Way with production line from academy that has ground to a halt[/quote']

 

On Saturday we had Targett, Ward-Prowse and Stephens in the starting line-up and brought McQueen on as sub.

CB Fry

CB Fry

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He was assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South when appointed to look after our youth academy and clearly snaked into his current role.

 

Hes killed all the momentum, positives and feel good that Cortese delivered.

 

Reed can F.Off

You forgot to mention Charlton Athletic sweetheart.
captainchris

captainchris

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I’ll reserve judgement until after January.

 

Despite others claiming we have ‘great players’ this squad is poor and Reed is responsible. We have a January transfer window where we must be active. Three players minimum. And a new manager.

 

If we sit on our hands and do nothing than he will be to blame for whatever happens come the end of the season.

 

It is not the squad ! It is the coaching staff and most of all Manager. Not forgetting the most culpable of all- those at the top...

captainchris

captainchris

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All except jwp are being played because we have injuries and there is no choice.

 

And your point is???

We have barely had an injury all season so please don’t come the injury crisis line oh no that will not wash....!!!!

Badger

Badger

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Think Les is in last chance saloon. He’s earned the right to sort the mess out, all clubs make a dodgy managerial decision every now and again. His career rests on the next appointment - get it wrong and were down, get it right and invest the VVD well and we will be in decent shape.

 

Inclined to agree that if you review his time at the club he has earned the right to try sorting it but it isn't just the managerial decisions that underline the doubts over his position. In addition to this:

 

- transfer windows,

- the CB fiasco last January

- failure to sign a striker when goals were obviously going to be scarce

- the VD issue; staggering that with the back four already weakened by losing both FB's we elect to let VD sit it out.

 

Not sure Reed sees this as a "career" at his age so much as a continuing salary until retirement. Never mind he's probably groomed Ross Wilson to take over the role.

captainchris

captainchris

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Sack. He got lucky with Koeman. Last two managers have seen the good work started by Cortese eroded. He was never the man to fulfil the ‘Southampton way’ philosophy. Get Cortese back!!

 

Have to say this is very true.

Cortese had some down sides but he was an out and out winner...

We are now happy with mediocrity as a club and in some cases it appears to be a few fans too. This attitude is a fast track to failure which Cortese would not have stood for..

There is far too much old pals act going on in the club too which breeds a comfort zone mentality...

I would rather have winners running my team...

Saint Albert

Saint Albert

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The longer he persists with the failure that is Pellegrino, the more unreasonable it seems. I am genuinely surprised that Reed is still sticking with this manager. Having Pellegrino still here can’t help when it comes to attracting transfer targets. Reed is really making a bad situation worse right now with what seems to be blind (possibly motivated by covering his own arse) loyalty.

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