John B Posted 16 September, 2017 Share Posted 16 September, 2017 Les seems to have come up with the goods with Lemina Hoedt and VVD Lets hope Redmond Boufal Hjobjorg finally come good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 16 September, 2017 Share Posted 16 September, 2017 I think 2 of those will come good, 1 never will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Can't stand how our fans instantly turn on the manager for the team's lack of goals. If the team, Puel and now MP are not good enough... its time to blame the actual cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 You can't say a bad word about Uncle Les on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Can't stand how our fans instantly turn on the manager for the team's lack of goals. If the team, Puel and now MP are not good enough... its time to blame the actual cause. This. Les Reed is the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 You can't say a bad word about Uncle Les on here.You do realise you've posted this nonsense on a thread called Led Reed OUT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 You do realise you've posted this nonsense on a thread called Led Reed OUT? But I think all who previously posted on it have been purged by the mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Can't stand how our fans instantly turn on the manager for the team's lack of goals. ... MP [is] not good enough Perish the thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Perish the thought! Please don't misquote me Duncan. I support MP at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Please don't misquote me Duncan. I support MP at present. Okay. So Reed and the board are responsible for appointing a manager...you support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 (edited) Okay. So Reed and the board are responsible for appointing a manager...you support? They are responsible for the shockingly bad attacking options we have yes. MoPe is a decent manager (he isn't going to set the world alight for sure), but if the fans just turn on players / managers all the time then the same things will keep happening. I think the entire fanbase can see the issues lie with Tadic and Redmond as out two creative players. This is the fault of the board, and the board and these attacking midfield options are the common denominator between MoPe and Puel. In summary, the board have got us into this mess with a **** poor recruitment strategy. Again. It is the same crap every year of late and it needs to change. There is zero point attacking the manager when he doesn't have the tools to do better. And if you want to go down that line, its the boards fault for attacking a manager the fans don;t think is up to it. Again. Buck starts and stops at the top i'm afraid. Edited 30 September, 2017 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Obviously don't want to get rid of Reed, but our recent transfer activity has been poor. I'd love to know what money was available and what decisions were made last few windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 Obviously don't want to get rid of Reed, but our recent transfer activity has been poor. I'd love to know what money was available and what decisions were made last few windows. I started a thread about this a couple months ago. We made a bunch of young signings, bloated the squad with "depth" and gave them all super long contracts with a view to stop selling and build stability. Only problem is we decided to do this when our squads the weakest its been since promotion rather than 2/3 years ago when we were full of stars that got poached to bigger clubs. We have so much money sitting on the bench in Gabbi, Boufal, Hojbjerg, Hoedt. So many young players that get barely any game time. The board massively screwed up. We desperately need quality over quantity. Puel was a good manager. A champions league semi finalist and managed some good teams. I used to watch that Lyon side play some exciting counter attacking football. It didn't matter if we replaced him with Pellegrino or Guardiola or Zidane, any manager would have an impossible time meeting the fans expectations with our midfield and attack. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 30 September, 2017 Share Posted 30 September, 2017 a **** poor recruitment strategy. Again. It is the same crap every year of late and it needs to change. If you think our recruitment is **** poor you should really try supporting, er, almost any other team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 1 October, 2017 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2017 Momentum curve made Reed look the "bestest" for a short while, but he's been on his own for a while now and showing exactly why he's been in football 50+ years and won absolutely nothing. His level.... assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South. Keep Reed and the decline will continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 1 October, 2017 Share Posted 1 October, 2017 Reed is 65 this year. His decision making in the last year has been disastrous for the club. Time for him to go. We need our head of recruitment, Paul Mitchell back and someone who is 100% honest and trustworthy, who doesn't have personality clashes and power struggles with all of our top players and managers, possibly Le Tissier? In football, as in all walks of life, employes peak and then they pass their best and usually retire at the age of 65. Although a few on here think he is a god, Les Reed is just an ordinary mortal. His decison malking continues to deteriorate and and he has reached retirement age. It's time for someone with a future, like Paul Mitchell, to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 October, 2017 Share Posted 1 October, 2017 (edited) In football, as in all walks of life, employes peak and then they pass their best and usually retire at the age of 65. Although a few on here think he is a god, Les Reed is just an ordinary mortal. His decison malking continues to deteriorate and and he has reached retirement age. It's time for someone with a future, like Paul Mitchell, to take over. Isn't this what we brought Ross Wilson in for though ? Although I'm not aware of any track record at Huddersfield to set him out as an outstanding candidate. Mitchell does at least have something on the CV. As a further thought though, who brought Mitchell to the club ? Reed perhaps? Credit where it is due. Edited 1 October, 2017 by Badger Remembered Wilson's name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 1 October, 2017 Share Posted 1 October, 2017 Momentum curve made Reed look the "bestest" for a short while, but he's been on his own for a while now and showing exactly why he's been in football 50+ years and won absolutely nothing. His level.... assistant manager on a voluntary basis at Bishop's Stortford FC in the Conference South. Keep Reed and the decline will continue If we keep him until he's 70, there is a danger that we will turn into the next Bolton. From 2003 to 2007, under the direction of Phil Gartside, Bolton finished in the top 8 of the Premier League in 4 consecutive seasons, qualified for Europe and finished runners-up in a League Cup Final. All the while, Gartside became more powerful and stubborn, making nearly all decisions at the club. They then slid into the bottom half of the table, where they struggled for a few seasons before eventually getting relegated. For Phil Gartside read Les Reed. "It is certainly starting to seem like a trick of the mind that Gartside was once regarded as one of the sport’s more impressive administrators, thought of so highly he was given a place on the Wembley board and put in charge of the FA’s selection process." https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/11/phil-gartside-bolton-wanderers-abyss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 1 October, 2017 Share Posted 1 October, 2017 I wish Reed would come and score our goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 October, 2017 Share Posted 1 October, 2017 In football, as in all walks of life, employes peak and then they pass their best and usually retire at the age of 65. Although a few on here think he is a god, Les Reed is just an ordinary mortal. His decison malking continues to deteriorate and and he has reached retirement age. It's time for someone with a future, like Paul Mitchell, to take over. How old are you? Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 Like Cortese. Another employee and looks like he has run his course... Think he should disappear into the sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 Les is 100% unsackable so no point saying he should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 And Ross Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 He needs to realise that possession based football doesn’t win matches. 2 mangerial appointments with the same philosophy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 What I really fail to understand is why we seem to have gone into this mode of only replacing like-for-like, and very slowly. Lemina a year after Wanyama, Fonte and Van Dijk with Bednarek (god knows) and Hoedt at the 11th hour and six months late, Pelle with Gabbiadini again after half a season (plus injury) and all while keeping the same offensive options (nothing more than a gang of 4) for going on 3 seasons in a row. This means we are not and cannot improve as a team. We have had an easy start and our current position is probably flattering, considering what we have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 October, 2017 Author Share Posted 15 October, 2017 Think and hope he will leave in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 He needs to realise that possession based football doesn’t win matches. 2 mangerial appointments with the same philosophy...... You would have thought that the discussion might have come up during the interview process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 He needs to realise that possession based football doesn’t win matches. 2 mangerial appointments with the same philosophy...... Someone ought to tell Pep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 Someone ought to tell Pep. The fundamental difference is that Man City actually pass it forwards, with accuracy, to their more clinical forwards. All we do is pass it backwards or sideways in front of the opposition which just creates slow, predictable and ultimately defendable build up. We keep possession for the sake of it, Man City actually make use of theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 15 October, 2017 Share Posted 15 October, 2017 Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 October, 2017 Author Share Posted 16 October, 2017 Les is 100% unsackable so no point saying he should go. rubbish. new owner new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 16 October, 2017 Share Posted 16 October, 2017 rubbish. new owner new rules. But, our ownership structure are not football people (Kat, Gao, Ralph). They are all from overseas with no experience of English football. Les appears to have convinced them he is 'the man' and they appear to leave football matters in his hands and have shown complete trust in him. Can't really see the joint owners sacking Les and they probably don't have an idea for a replacement anyway. Wonder if MLT would like a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 23 October, 2017 Share Posted 23 October, 2017 Whilst we are far from perfect, something has to be said for having a clear structure at a club, a shared philosophy and a thought out recruitment process. When you look at the mess clubs like Everton, West Ham, Stoke, Leicester, Crystal Palace (hell even Liverpool and Arsenal to an extent) etc. are in at the moment with their scatter gun recruitment policy, glaring holes in their squads, no clear identity, changing managers etc. then some credit must be given to Les Reed et al. I mean sure we could get worse from here, and those clubs could improve but on current evidence I doubt it. We at least vaguely look like we know what we are doing and look like we have a plan, even if it's not being executed properly (though there are signs that maybe the manager is starting to get his message across). I'm sure envious eyes were glanced towards Everton and their summer spending by many of our fans, but they are all over the place, I am pretty certain had Les Reed overseen that they'd be in a better position than they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 23 October, 2017 Share Posted 23 October, 2017 But, our ownership structure are not football people (Kat, Gao, Ralph). They are all from overseas with no experience of English football. Les appears to have convinced them he is 'the man' and they appear to leave football matters in his hands and have shown complete trust in him. Can't really see the joint owners sacking Les and they probably don't have an idea for a replacement anyway. Wonder if MLT would like a job? Name me 5 better run professional football clubs in the top 4 divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 23 October, 2017 Share Posted 23 October, 2017 Name me 5 better run professional football clubs in the top 4 divisions. What do you consider 'better run'? Bit of an ambiguous question, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 October, 2017 Share Posted 23 October, 2017 What do you consider 'better run'? Bit of an ambiguous question, to be honest. Why don't you interpret the question any way you like and then answer it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 23 October, 2017 Share Posted 23 October, 2017 A league table of best run clubs would be different every season. This season, so far, I'd say these 5 would be above us: Wolves, Man City, Tottenham, Watford, Burnley... If we manage a 5th consecutive top 8 finish, youd have to say over that period we'd be one of the best; if we end up getting relegated, we wouldn't be. I'm not sure the club has been as well run this season and last as it was in the previous 3. We'll see. Football is a results driven game. The Boufal goal has certainly made us all feel more optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 23 October, 2017 Share Posted 23 October, 2017 Someone says 'wonder if MLT would like the job? Thanks for the memories Matt but thhis would spoil it, genius on the field, bit of mug off it. We need more than the heart in the right place and present leadership has served us amazingly well over last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 October, 2017 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2017 Someone says 'wonder if MLT would like the job? Thanks for the memories Matt but thhis would spoil it, genius on the field, bit of mug off it. We need more than the heart in the right place and present leadership has served us amazingly well over last few years. Absolutely not. However did notice MLT was at the game, seen him chewing the fat with Big Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 4 November, 2017 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2017 F**K this current crop of spineless players **** Eric Black **** Puel **** Pellegrino **** Wilson and his recruitment **** Dave Watson and his GK coaching This club is on a decline. WE NEED TO cut off the head of the snake - LES REED needs to go!!! :hunt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 That would leave Wreck-it Ralph to appoint the next manager. From the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 Everything about the club at present looks like it is built in Les Reed's image. Les has been left in total charge of football matters and this is how we have ended up. But who will sack him and re-energise the club? This is on the edge of crisis now and we can only hope the Chinese will step in and take the sort of action that their 80% allows them to. Surely things can't keep drifting along as they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 4 November, 2017 Author Share Posted 4 November, 2017 That would leave Wreck-it Ralph to appoint the next manager. From the NHL. Cortese wasn't a football man. Id have more faith in Ralph picking a manager over Reed. Reed has ****ed us twice now and is driving this bus down a hill to nothing. Reed needs to go. 55 years in the game and has won NOTHING. Reed is one of lifes losers.... This club needs winners. #WeMarchOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 The club was in its strongest ever position at the end of the 15/16 season and Les Reed allowed our manager, target man and best player to leave. Him and his transfer recruitment team then went and replaced them with cheap options, or in Pelle's case - not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 Reed out, Koeman in. Oh we can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 You have to hope that somebody is at least asking Les what the hell is going on, and what it being done about it immediately. Players don’t look like they care, they don’t appear to be fit enough, we have signed a number of average players, the academy is not in great shape and so on. Les bangs on about his due dillience when it comes to signing players and managers but at the moment, all that looks like the absolute BS it is. The club has got complacent, believes its own hype and I doubt anyone ever can challenge Les. Maybe Chairman Gao might be asking some tough questions of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 Wonder if we could tempt Hoddle to come in and replace Les? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 Definitely past his sell by date. Spouting on about the so called Southampton Way has now made him look very foolish - unless the Southampton Way is ****ing awful football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndy1970 Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 Rather and jump on bandwagon, facts are adding up. 5 points off of a relegation spot. If anyone says this is bed wetting, then they need to wake up. No goals means a struggle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 4 November, 2017 Share Posted 4 November, 2017 The club was in its strongest ever position at the end of the 15/16 season and Les Reed allowed our manager, target man and best player to leave. Him and his transfer recruitment team then went and replaced them with cheap options, or in Pelle's case - not at all. This time to go les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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