whelk Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 OK, financially....................that should be the only benefit worth quantifying. So 15 years of season tickets previously mean **** all then. Seriously................ I do sympathise but no club has ever taken sort of thing into account - they're soulless corporations like any other business. I'd liked them to have recognised the L1 loyalty or any token of goodwill i.e. Free cup game and suck up the costs but come to expect f all just bs videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 ST should always get 1st dibs but to suddenly use home attendance only over away attendance or a mix of both for everyone else is just plain wrong in my book. agree but when has anything about buying tickets for big games been fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 I do sympathise but no club has ever taken sort of thing into account - they're soulless corporations like any other business. I'd liked them to have recognised the L1 loyalty or any token of goodwill i.e. Free cup game and suck up the costs but come to expect f all just bs videos. That's not strictly true. Man City (at least they used to) have a points system that goes back years. The draw back with this is that it's more difficult for new/younger fans to 'get on the ladder'. It's swings and roundabouts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 (edited) That's not strictly true. Man City (at least they used to) have a points system that goes back years. The draw back with this is that it's more difficult for new/younger fans to 'get on the ladder'. It's swings and roundabouts... Interesting. I don't see why they just can't give every game home and away individual loyalty points and just use a rolling 3 seasons. Obviously need to factor in ST and could do on a diminishing basis i.e. Points accumulated from last season gets reduced by say 40% going into the following season. Straightforward to have a cumulative total against each membership. A bloody spreadsheet could do it! In addition could also let 'uber fans' brag about their score. Edited 4 February, 2017 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Interesting. I don't see why they just can't give every game home and away individual loyalty points and just use a rolling 3 seasons. Obviously need to factor in ST and could do on a diminishing basis i.e. Points accumulated from last season gets reduced by say 40% going into the following season. Straightforward to have a cumulative total against each membership. A bloody spreadsheet could do it! In addition could also let 'uber fans' brag about their score. Sounds a sensible and fair suggestion to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 I posted this on the Inter thread last year and do feel there must be a fairer way of doing things (although I'm ok as a ST with one EFL cup game I now have mine) ... I think we should have some sort of loyalty scheme based on purchase history over, say, the last five years. Something like 100 pts for each season as a season ticket holder, 15 pts for each away, 5 pts for each home purchase. Not saying the weighting here is right just the principal of loyalty points. It would be relatively easy to set up as each member & ST holder already has a history and maybe fairer when it comes to these big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 The system if fine, whatever they do some people will moan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Gave up my ST when moved north. I accept I can't get a ticket through normal channels. Fortunately I can afford one from a ticket site but therein lies my quandary. I don't like lining their pockets, football is just becoming all about money with no thought for the fans and l think we'll just play in a negative way with the hope of springing a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Gave up my ST when moved north. I accept I can't get a ticket through normal channels. Fortunately I can afford one from a ticket site but therein lies my quandary. I don't like lining their pockets, football is just becoming all about money with no thought for the fans and l think we'll just play in a negative way with the hope of springing a surprise. Just had a look on a couple of sites. about £250 a ticket. then some throw on £80 booking fee sod that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Whatever happened to the points system Saints introduced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Whatever happened to the points system Saints introduced? Good question. All they refer to now is making sure when you order tickets you do it in the ticket holders name so it shows on their purchase history. i understood there would be points given for attending away matches, early cup games, friendlies and so on that would credit you with more points the less attractive the game was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1576 Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 At some point it becomes difficult to manage again. If you give more points to an away game someone will complain that a Midlands based fan attending midlands games is not deserving of as many poits as someone coming from Southampton? I think as people have said there is no easy solution and someone will always be unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 The system if fine, whatever they do some people will moan. That's about right. I've got 4 on my membership, and it's my own fault for not getting an Arsenal ticket, or putting Liverpool on my card. F*ckwit that I am. Something will turn up for me though, it always does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Should be a points based system like England away is. Rewards loyalty. That is all it should come down to. Typical of saints to think with their bank balance, and that's coming from a Southampton based ST holder who does aways who got a ticket on Thursday. Joke how they allocated them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 From someone who is not likely to get a ticket, I think the club have been as fair as possible. People who put money in the coffers now should get priority. Away fans are die hard fans, I agree, but they in the main are not spending money with the club when going to those games. I suspect 99% of those will have a S/T or attendence to get a ticket. There will always be genuine fans who miss out, and sadly for me Iam going to be on of them as i gave up my S/T after many many years due to business commitments. I was there in the dark days but Im not there now and so I have to accept my lot. I could of course make up a 'X-Factor' stroy to try and get somebody give me a ticket like I have read on social media but I cant stoop ot that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 It just doesn't really make any sense to me that every away game ticket is distributed on the grounds of how many away games you've been to. But when that away game is Wembley, they don't count anymore? Should just be 'members that have purchased 8 games this season', rather than home or away. Personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 OK, financially....................that should be the only benefit worth quantifying. So 15 years of season tickets previously mean **** all then. Seriously................ So if the club start giving fans who used to have a S/T that means fans who are currently going week in week out may miss out. You like me gave up our tickets and have to accept it, painful as we all feel justification to get one, but the club have to look after its paying customers now, not years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Does anyone know how many season tickets and members the club has? Club won't tell me but like to know to work out if member +6 games is in with any chance. I'm not a season ticket holder after 20 years as far to expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Get on the site 15 minutes early. I'd imagine there's a hidden queue, as this is what I did and it let me go straight on at 9. Refresh the site a couple of seconds before it hits 9, this way, depending on your internet speed, when it goes 9 o'clock you should be one of the first in the queue. . That makes no sense; surely doing what you suggest in paragraph 2 would take you out of the 'secret queue', which you are supposing exists in paragraph 1? [emoji848] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylambert Posted 4 February, 2017 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2017 That makes no sense; surely doing what you suggest in paragraph 2 would take you out of the 'secret queue', which you are supposing exists in paragraph 1? [emoji848] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It doesn't refresh automatically. I'm no tech whizz, but this is what I did and I was checked out in 10 minutes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djg Posted 4 February, 2017 Share Posted 4 February, 2017 Does anyone know how many season tickets and members the club has? Club won't tell me but like to know to work out if member +6 games is in with any chance. I'm not a season ticket holder after 20 years as far to expensive. I'd also like to know as my son and I have only been to 5 games so far this season, we haven't been able to get to the Sunday games this year... Hoping we can still manage to get a couple of the last few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Only single seats left in the lower tier ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Got mine lower tier all sold out figured if I have to sit up the back I might as well pay less. At least I paid less than I budgeted for so more money for beer I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Have been waiting for a freaking age and I logged in at 8am this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 went online at 9.50, all done by 10.35. Had £90 ones in the basket, but couldn't really justify that in the end. Went for £56 behind the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 (edited) Got on at 10 with no queue at all to sort my mate with a ticket in the lower tier. Easy if you know how. Edited 5 February, 2017 by LGTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 I logged on at 10 on the dot, it wouldn't let me do it before then as the ticket site was allegedly closed, and got to straight into a 20 minute queue. all done by 10.25 no drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchrissy Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 I had quite a different experience, logged in at 10.00 on the dot then had to wait 45 minutes, selected seats quickly just went to pay and it logged me out so back in the query GRRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 About to book - anyone offer a quick summary as to where the noise will be?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 About to book - anyone offer a quick summary as to where the noise will be?? Lower tier but that's sold out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 About to book - anyone offer a quick summary as to where the noise will be?? lower tier but that was all but sold out before today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Any other blocks etc that are a good second choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Had to do it via the phone as disabled son, took hour and 15 mins and kept getting cut off every ten minutes, had 3 phones on the go. In the end I got 3 tickets imn block 548 row 7. Happy with that. Also got the hotel booked for a night in London Afterwards. Let's put All our efforts into winning this cup instead of moaning about the club. Off to Wembley!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Don't hang about once you get on. Waited about 30 minutes then it kicked me out saying due to inactivity which is bull. Then had to wait another 45 mins. Went through it as quick as possible second time, and this time success. Can't wait to tell my boys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Had a fraught time myself. Got on to the website fairly easily, chose tickets, 'purchased' ,then at the final stage it said there was a problem with my transaction, my basket was empty but I may have been charged, and to contact the club. £230 maybe down the drain and no tickets apparently. 35 minutes of loud phone muzak later, finally got a human being who said the error message was wrong and we had got tickets. So, ok in the end, I *think*, but I'll be a bit nervous till the tickets actually arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Had a fraught time myself. Got on to the website fairly easily, chose tickets, 'purchased' ,then at the final stage it said there was a problem with my transaction, my basket was empty but I may have been charged, and to contact the club. £230 maybe down the drain and no tickets apparently. 35 minutes of loud phone muzak later, finally got a human being who said the error message was wrong and we had got tickets. So, ok in the end, I *think*, but I'll be a bit nervous till the tickets actually arrive. When the website has calmed down, log back on and check your purchase history. If it's in there then you got the tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 It seems to me the ticket site stays open for the current criteria until 30 minutes before the next criteria opens up. Then 30minutes before it opens, a list of those that log on to sfc on a first come first serve basis in the 30 minutes is set up behind the notice page displayed. At the time of opening those that are high up on the list automatically see the log in home page the rest get the two time boxes, estimated and elapsed and at the appropriate time they enter. Anybody that logs in after that gets the page with the time estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Okey dokey, got my solitary one on the seasons ticket but would appreciate any help obtaining a second if anyone can oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Okey dokey, got my solitary one on the seasons ticket but would appreciate any help obtaining a second if anyone can oblige.if you haven't got a membership for the second one then you wont get one unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Okey dokey, got my solitary one on the seasons ticket but would appreciate any help obtaining a second if anyone can oblige. Ticket master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 if you haven't got a membership for the second one then you wont get one unfortunately Yeah I get that, I meant on the 'open market' if you will... Cheers Simo, hadn't considered them for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 It seems to me the ticket site stays open for the current criteria until 30 minutes before the next criteria opens up. Then 30minutes before it opens, a list of those that log on to sfc on a first come first serve basis in the 30 minutes is set up behind the notice page displayed. At the time of opening those that are high up on the list automatically see the log in home page the rest get the two time boxes, estimated and elapsed and at the appropriate time they enter. Anybody that logs in after that gets the page with the time estimate. Will try both on Tuesday in different browsers....a member who has done 14 home games, unfortunately the guys I normally go with including my dad are all bottom tier! Sure they'll be quite a few lone rangers in Wembley where the people they go with are of different criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Yeah I get that, I meant on the 'open market' if you will... Cheers Simo, hadn't considered them for some reason. This was my first hit in google http://www.livefootballtickets.com/fixtures/efl-cup-final-tickets-efl-cup.html those prices though and I have idea how legit these sort of sites are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 When the website has calmed down, log back on and check your purchase history. If it's in there then you got the tickets. good idea. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Should be a points based system like England away is. Rewards loyalty. That is all it should come down to. Typical of saints to think with their bank balance, and that's coming from a Southampton based ST holder who does aways who got a ticket on Thursday. Joke how they allocated them. Totally agree, amazing how there isn't a clear points scheme in place at the beginning of the season so everyone is aware of what they may need to do to get tickets for all important games. This may also encourage people to go to more games. Also the membership scheme is an absolute joke and purely a money making thing. I got mine at the beginning of the season thinking it would help in such occasions as I was not confident of being able to get to a huge amount of games however, you can still buy one today to support your chances of tickets! I have been to 5 home and a couple away including Arsenal in the cup, but it doesn't look like many will be left for that final round of criteria. Fingers crossed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Totally agree, amazing how there isn't a clear points scheme in place at the beginning of the season so everyone is aware of what they may need to do to get tickets for all important games. This may also encourage people to go to more games. Also the membership scheme is an absolute joke and purely a money making thing. I got mine at the beginning of the season thinking it would help in such occasions as I was not confident of being able to get to a huge amount of games however, you can still buy one today to support your chances of tickets! I have been to 5 home and a couple away including Arsenal in the cup, but it doesn't look like many will be left for that final round of criteria. Fingers crossed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think everyone knows that the fairest way is a points system, you'd have to be utterly mental to think that people who've only done homes games deserve priority to those that have done aways too. Likewise i'd probably "weight" games too, so first round cup games worth more than a home game against a big club (who should be the lowest), likewise midweek away at Swansea or Stoke should be worth more than a cup game at Arsenal where we get 15% of capacity. Also by the same logic the away game to Israel should count for significantly more than any other game we'd have played all season. I know a fair few other clubs run this kind of system - Spurs for example - and it seems by far the fairest. Especially since season ticket holders start with a significant number of points each season, but members can catch them and over take if they do more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Cider Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 If anyone is struggling for a ticket, please feel free to message me as I may be able to sort something out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 If anyone is struggling for a ticket, please feel free to message me as I may be able to sort something out Hi I don't think I can message you but feel free to email me ref tickets aathlh25@sky.com. As a lot of others been to 6 aways this year but only 2 home games which means I don't make the clubs cut. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 I think everyone knows that the fairest way is a points system, you'd have to be utterly mental to think that people who've only done homes games deserve priority to those that have done aways too. Likewise i'd probably "weight" games too, so first round cup games worth more than a home game against a big club (who should be the lowest), likewise midweek away at Swansea or Stoke should be worth more than a cup game at Arsenal where we get 15% of capacity. Also by the same logic the away game to Israel should count for significantly more than any other game we'd have played all season. I know a fair few other clubs run this kind of system - Spurs for example - and it seems by far the fairest. Especially since season ticket holders start with a significant number of points each season, but members can catch them and over take if they do more games. I was discussing this with a couple of Wolves ST holders when out on the bike on Friday. They are allocated, say 300 points for their STs and then each away is worth say 30 and each home 20 on a match by match basis. Those with the most points get 1st shot at the rarer tickets. To cut away attendance out completely as the club has done is utterly farcical and a mere exercise in money making by saying both the Arsenal and WHU games counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 5 February, 2017 Share Posted 5 February, 2017 Availability left now that ST holders have had their opportunity. Bottom tier completely sold out. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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