Mallagroth Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Right come on then we keep hearing about these FM stats someone post them up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 (edited) Im a simple chap, therefore I prefer the Fifa ratings http://www.futhead.com/17/players/23088/manolo-gabbiadini/ Edited 27 January, 2017 by Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 You misunderstand me, my point was Sky use idiots as football experts like Merson, yet everyone jumps at them when they use a resource actual clubs use for scouting. Merson may be an idiot, but he was a pro for a good number of years, and is better placed to judge a player than some lard arse with a laptop who was always the last to get picked for football in the school playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Making yourself sound a little bit stupid here mate. If you're not interested then why are you watching SSN? Not every football fans wants to invest money and time playing a computer game, but most (obviously not you) football fans will be interested in the ability of a potential new signing. As said previously, assuming the researcher is any good, the stats will be a lot more accurate than you'd expect. I'm not interested in football manager stats so that means I shouldn't be watching sky sports news just because they do a 20 second bit on it every now and then? Ok My point is, they don't need to link signings to football manager stats and fifa ratings. There are other less embarrassing ways of putting across a players stats, I.E what they've actually achieved when actually playing in actual real life. I couldn't give a toss what a players bravery rating is on a video game ffs. Oh Jay bottled it from that 50/50 then. If only we had Gabiadini, he has a 15 bravery rating on fifa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Sunderland willing to match our offer apparently now they have the Van Aanholt money. Sounds like this saga will continue to roll on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Because we don't want to be inundated with football manager stats whilst watching the tv. If I wanted FM stats i'd buy the game. It's embarrassing. Don't watch then. Sky obviously think it's useful and so do others, which is pretty obvious because humans like things ranked and in numbers, it's easier to understand. Plus with the 100s of signings going on all over the place they are not exactly going to get much better expert opinion, the FM researchers are dedicated fans of their club who watch those players over and over. No less valid than asking some random journalist from that country, yet people quite happily seem to accept those opinions, but because it's a from a computer game it's somehow less valid? Makes no sense, like MLG says it's a pretty extensive and pretty accurate database, not using a resource like that seems silly to me. You don't take the stats as literal you take them as a guide to what people think the player's strengths and weaknesses are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Sunderland willing to match our offer apparently now they have the Van Aanholt money. Sounds like this saga will continue to roll on... He'd be a bit of a prat to go there instead of joining us considering each clubs current situation. Saying that, if Sunderland offer a bigger wage then it's possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Sunderland willing to match our offer apparently now they have the Van Aanholt money. Sounds like this saga will continue to roll on... Don't think it's realistic he'll go there given their current situation. If we want it done, we'll get it done - just trying to get the best deal possible i'd imagine. Would be nice to have him on board for the Swansea game, especially if Jay is also out of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 I mean surely with our successes in transfer scouting surely all the other clubs need to do is ascertain who our real targets are and when they do jump in on it and offer more money. Everton and West Ham seem to have the sort of attitudes in their backroom that would deem this a morally decent move for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Sunderland willing to match our offer apparently now they have the Van Aanholt money. Sounds like this saga will continue to roll on... Classic. Clubs cant agree fee, so random new club enters the fray 'willing' to meet asking price. I'm sure if we really want him, we'll agree the fee. Plus as others have said, why on earth would you want to go to Sunderland right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 He will not join sunderland, I am sure its the Napoli president putting it out there after seeing them get the cash for Van Arnholt and trying to put pressure on us. "The other deal in the foreground is the one for Gabbiadini: yesterday his agent Silvio Pagliari, was in Milan to talk to Southampton but also with the leaders of Naples. The Saints are thinking to reformulate the offer, which does not move from the fixed bases (about 16 million) but that may vary over bonuses: 2 + 2, linked to appearances, goals (10-15) and ranking of the team, plus 10% to Napoli on future possible sale of Manolo. De Laurentiis has mandated not to accept offers of less than 20 million, having declined 23 Everton in the summer. Difficult for the Southampton increases the supply on the base station, you work with a vengeance with great confidence by the British, not quite reciprocated by Napoli." http://sport.ilmattino.it/sscnapoli/napoli_gabbiadini_southampton_l_offerta_puo_essere_quella_giusta-2221419.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 (edited) We've apparently upped our offer to 18 + 2m (Euros) or 20 + 3 depending what news source you go to. http://www.ilroma.net/news/sport/gabbiadini-il-southampton-non-molla-giaccherini-non-ha-offerte-concrete Edited 27 January, 2017 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 We've apparently upped our offer to 18 + 2m (Euros) http://www.ilroma.net/news/sport/gabbiadini-il-southampton-non-molla-giaccherini-non-ha-offerte-concrete I hope the club have told Napoli that it's take it or leave it now. If it's not enough for them, move on to alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 http://www.calciomercato.com/news/napoli-southampton-attesa-gabbiadini-i-club-trattano-e-lui-si-al-47161 Didn't train apparently. Could be getting close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 A new player having a medical this afternoon. Soz thats the best I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 A new player having a medical this afternoon. Soz thats the best I can do. BOOOOOOOMMMMM I'll take that thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 A new player having a medical this afternoon. Soz thats the best I can do. would love it if this is someone that hasn't even been mentioned so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 A new player having a medical this afternoon. Soz thats the best I can do. Hopefully its Gabbiadini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson may be an idiot, but he was a pro for a good number of years, and is better placed to judge a player than some lard arse with a laptop who was always the last to get picked for football in the school playground. Feel this absolutely bonkers post went unnoticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 would love it if this is someone that hasn't even been mentioned so far. Especially if it's a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Im a simple chap, therefore I prefer the Fifa ratings http://www.futhead.com/17/players/23088/manolo-gabbiadini/ What the hell is a 'Beast Rating'? Sounds impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Feel this absolutely bonkers post went unnoticed. So you would trust the judgement of some spotty kid with a laptop who has never played the game over a drunk who at least played top flight football for nearly fifteen years, played for his country, and has a job watching football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 What the hell is a 'Beast Rating'? Sounds impressive! I take it you don't have youngish boys. My 10 year old knows all about "beast ratings". Otherwise, I am with you and have no idea about these things. TBH I don't really take on board peoples opinions they are opinions. Ex-pros have more gravitas and I listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 LOL Southampton and a cup final or Sunderland and a relegation battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivasadio Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Good article on him here - http://readsouthampton.com/2017/01/17/scouting-report-manolo-gabbiadini/ 16 year old trying to sound clever imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Feel this absolutely bonkers post went unnoticed. I think that Absolutely Bonkers is a bit over the top. It is a valid viewpoint that you can agree or disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 So you would trust the judgement of some spotty kid with a laptop who has never played the game over a drunk who at least played top flight football for nearly fifteen years, played for his country, and has a job watching football? Merson has a job tying his shoelaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson may be an idiot, but he was a pro for a good number of years, and is better placed to judge a player than some lard arse with a laptop who was always the last to get picked for football in the school playground. Feel this absolutely bonkers post went unnoticed. So you would trust the judgement of some spotty kid with a laptop who has never played the game over a drunk who at least played top flight football for nearly fifteen years, played for his country, and has a job watching football? Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. not for your knowledge of spelling 'general' then? seriously then, who are you and what afternoon sports result programme uses you. are you Garth Crooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. What form does this Saints knowledge you speak of take? What is the qualification you possess as proof of learning this "knowledge"? Im curious as it sounds like there may well be an oppprtunity for others who have a great level of "Saints knowledge" to potentially seek employment in this realm. Or us it as I suspect that your "knowledge" is statistical interpretation and opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Liverpool employ MLG as chief scout i am srs fkn judas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 http://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/napoli-per-gabbiadini-si-continua-a-trattare-con-il-southampton-la-situazione. Anyone translate? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. You're such a d1ckhead and a lot of the time, you don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 http://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/napoli-per-gabbiadini-si-continua-a-trattare-con-il-southampton-la-situazione. Anyone translate? http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/napoli-southampton-continues-to-negotiate-for-gabbiadini-the-situation Hope this works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 http://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/napoli-per-gabbiadini-si-continua-a-trattare-con-il-southampton-la-situazione. Anyone translate? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk From Google: Gabbiadini -Southampton , it continues to treat. Agreement with Napoli on standby, waiting for the British raise their offer, stops when 16 million plus 4 bonus and a 10% discount on future sales. De Laurentiis would like to prevent Gabbiadini to explode just after the transfer by the club blue. Between Southampton and the tip of the Naples agreement already exists: contract until 2,021,000,000 to 2.5000000 per season. T ra assumptions made by the president blue is that of renewal (the contract expires in 2018) and the loan for a year and a half. However the solution is unwelcome to the tip of Bergamo, who does not want to go out on loan and does not intend to renew. Developments are expected. Pick the bones out of that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 (edited) Beaten to it ^ Edited 27 January, 2017 by simo Too slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Basically, they want to include a sell on fee just in case he excels in the Prem.... Pretty sure he'll join, just playing tough balls at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 To be fair to MLG, what he says is 100% correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 From Google: Gabbiadini -Southampton , it continues to treat. Agreement with Napoli on standby, waiting for the British raise their offer, stops when 16 million plus 4 bonus and a 10% discount on future sales. De Laurentiis would like to prevent Gabbiadini to explode just after the transfer by the club blue. Between Southampton and the tip of the Naples agreement already exists: contract until 2,021,000,000 to 2.5000000 per season. T ra assumptions made by the president blue is that of renewal (the contract expires in 2018) and the loan for a year and a half. However the solution is unwelcome to the tip of Bergamo, who does not want to go out on loan and does not intend to renew. Developments are expected. Pick the bones out of that ! That looks a bit worrying now. There is no longer a mention about squaring circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 From Google: Gabbiadini -Southampton , it continues to treat. Agreement with Napoli on standby, waiting for the British raise their offer, stops when 16 million plus 4 bonus and a 10% discount on future sales. De Laurentiis would like to prevent Gabbiadini to explode just after the transfer by the club blue. Between Southampton and the tip of the Naples agreement already exists: contract until 2,021,000,000 to 2.5000000 per season. T ra assumptions made by the president blue is that of renewal (the contract expires in 2018) and the loan for a year and a half. However the solution is unwelcome to the tip of Bergamo, who does not want to go out on loan and does not intend to renew. Developments are expected. Pick the bones out of that ! I hope he doesn't explode after the transfer, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. Haven't you told them about your nickname on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. Tell me, what level did you play at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. Seriously, two large companies using the Comical Ali of football message boards for an insight into football. I've heard it all now. Even funnier than Rod Stewart doing the Scottish Cup draw on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Tell me, what level did you play at? Do great footballers make great managers, or does management require a different set of skills? Being a reasonable-to-good quality player doesn't in any way indicate an ability to judge the potential of other players. Also thanks to Manji for info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Has anyone mentioned Marco Gabbiadini yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Has anyone mentioned Marco Gabbiadini yet? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Has anyone mentioned Marco Gabbiadini yet? No,but try a Sunderland forum. Good player but didn't fulfill his potential once he made the old First Division as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Has anyone asked whether some EE left back has signed from a Scottish club yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Merson isn't employed by Sky Sports for his football knowledge. He is there as a jester and figure of fun. Two large companies use me for my knowledge of Saints & football in genral. They don't use me as a figure of fun on an afternoon sports results programme, I'm paid for Saints knowledge by one of them and they both wouldn't bother if they didn't think I knew what I was talking about. I know some on this forum disagree with lots of the things I say, but many don't. You must be conning them well - you didn't even know that football players where included in valuations of clubs!!!! I say this not as someone with a dislike of you, I think you are truly one of the best posters here. if you end up writing something over 200 characters stop - you're getting emotional and it's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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