SaintSeb Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Suicide not to replace Fonte this window but since we didn't replace anyone who left in the summer it would not surprise me. Any half decent centre backs available for loan till end of season? Arsenal, Chelsea and United all have loads of CB's. Cheeky loan for one of them? Getting more desperate some one like Micah Richards?! Better than Gardos/Stephens and just as calamitous as Yoshida? We did replace everyone who left, just those replacements have yet to live up to them. Micah Richards was a f*cking disaster at Villa as a centre back and a right back. Would rather Stephens than him. Maybe not Gardos as he hasn't played first team football for 2 years, but still would steer clear of Richards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Seriously, Micah Richards? That just screams of someone wanting anyone, just anyone, please just sign someone, i don't care who...! Seriously though. I'd be seriously annoyed if we try to get by without replacing Fonte, no matter how it's spun by the club that will be seen as a lowering the quality of the squad. If there aren't any good enough replacements out there or are affordable to us then don't let fonte go. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 I´m sure saints have been working on a replacement while this Fonte drama has been ongoing...Or is that you wishful thinking and we are stuck with Yoshi now as replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 I agree fully mate.... but does Reed? Pages and pages and pages of posts during the summer saying we need a new striker, we need an attacking midfielder, we need a decent backup GK - we could all see it clearly, but does Les? Clearly not My expectations for the season are being reviewed (lowered) every fortnight - you need to adjust or you’ll be constantly disappointed with SFC. May - Top 6 again, good cup(s) run and Europe semi final + exciting football and goals, goals, goals June - Top 8, good cup run and Europe semi final + exciting football and goals, goals, goals July - Top 10, good cup(s) run and Europe quarter final + exciting football Aug – Top 11, decent EFL cup run, Europe last 32 + defend well Sept - Top 12, decent EFL cup run, Europe last 32 Oct - Top 13, decent EFL cup run, Europe last 32 Nov - Top 14, decent EFL cup run, Europe last 32 Dec - Top 15, decent EFL cup run, Europe last 32 Jan - Top 16, decent EFL cup run Mine is now a hope: not be relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Still no activity, Puel still at the helm with his dreary football. Sleepwalking to the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Bank the cash. Wait until the Summer. £8m for Fonte is insane. Limp on to June. Rebuild then. So we will rebuild in the championship then? Total suicide if we don't replace Donte. The board seem to be sleepwalking to relegation if a cb and striker aren't brought in this window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 So we will rebuild in the championship then? Total suicide if we don't replace Donte. The board seem to be sleepwalking to relegation if a cb and striker aren't brought in this window We've had a horrendous league run including an unfair xmas schedule & we're still 8 points and a better goal difference clear of the relegation places. Complete hyperbole to act as if we are in a relegation fight. It's not complete suicide not to replace Fonte immediately & we're likely only selling because he's more of a problem for the club than an asset as this stand. If we can't get the right player Yoshida has shown himself perfectly capable this season whilst Stephens is highly rated by the club. I would like us to bring in a quality defender and a quality striker. However those sort of players aren't exactly commonly available in January. The sort of defender who may be available(like Richards) earns derision from posters. I certainly don't want us panic buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 I think we were linked with Simon Kjaer before but nothing came of it. On the subject of whether to replace Fonte or not, I too think it would be foolish to rely on VVD/Yoshida, and only the untried Stephens, and unsure of Gardos as back up. Really feel like Fabian Schar would be a great fit Of the names mentioned Schar stood out for me. He was highly regarded as an up and coming prospect at Basle, and linked with Chelsea, Arsenal etc. Now he's had a year or so in a stronger league he may be ready for a step up to the Premiership.Not sure if we'd prise him away in January though. Hoffenheim seem to be a bit of a German equivalent of Saints bringing young players through, and giving 'imports' such as Schar their chance in a stronger lead. Perhaps we should look to them to replace Celtic as our main 'feeder club'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 My short term options: - Chambers in on loan - Move bertrand to centre back (he played for a period there for us previously) - Michael Keane (Burnley) - Pontus-Jannson (Leeds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 My short term options: - Chambers in on loan - Move bertrand to centre back (he played for a period there for us previously) - Michael Keane (Burnley) - Pontus-Jannson (Leeds) Isn't Chambers at Middlesbrough still?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 You might be right, I didnt even realised he was there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Seriously though. I'd be seriously annoyed if we try to get by without replacing Fonte, no matter how it's spun by the club that will be seen as a lowering the quality of the squad. If there aren't any good enough replacements out there or are affordable to us then don't let fonte go. Simple. This x 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 am i a lunatic to think we might sell Fonte tonight and announce his replacement immediately, having lined him (I presume male) up? yep, thought so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 am i a lunatic to think we might sell Fonte tonight and announce his replacement immediately, having lined him (I presume male) up? yep, thought so NO not a lunatic, but point is we should of have somebody lined up to come in straight away, as we should of had someone to come in at the beginning of jan to replace charlie the club is a shambles at the moment from top to bottom just like when your trying to sell your house life becomes a bit of a shambles until you get that buyer in the door, hope I'm wrong and the club make a couple of decent signings soon to prove me wrong but won't hold my breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Seriously, Micah Richards? That just screams of someone wanting anyone, just anyone, please just sign someone, i don't care who...! Seriously though. I'd be seriously annoyed if we try to get by without replacing Fonte, no matter how it's spun by the club that will be seen as a lowering the quality of the squad. If there aren't any good enough replacements out there or are affordable to us then don't let fonte go. Simple. Get ready to be seriously annoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Get ready to be seriously annoyed. Yep. I don't think we will bring anyone (striker or defender) in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Seriously, Micah Richards? That just screams of someone wanting anyone, just anyone, please just sign someone, i don't care who...! Seriously though. I'd be seriously annoyed if we try to get by without replacing Fonte, no matter how it's spun by the club that will be seen as a lowering the quality of the squad. If there aren't any good enough replacements out there or are affordable to us then don't let fonte go. Simple. Will be interested to see how Les spins it. We are being warmed up to the fact that we won't get a replacement I think. CP saying we can rely on Stephens and Gardos, Maya being made captain on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Yep. I don't think we will bring anyone (striker or defender) in. And when we don't it'll be another thing to add to the list of items Les Reed has said that turned out to be BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 I don't mind not bringing anyone in. This season has 1 game left, maybe 2 if we beat Liverpool. Other than that, we have to scrape 12 to 16 points together. What would be annoying is being told that Fonte would only go if there was a replacement. If there was no intention of keeping to that, much better to not say it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Get ready to be seriously annoyed. The fact that we have tried to get Sakho would suggest that the club is keen to bring someone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 My short term options: - Chambers in on loan - Move bertrand to centre back (he played for a period there for us previously) - Michael Keane (Burnley) - Pontus-Jannson (Leeds) Bertrand is an interesting option. Keane - no chance. Leeds bloke - would they even consider selling whilst in contention for the play offs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Bertrand is an interesting option. Keane - no chance. Leeds bloke - would they even consider selling whilst in contention for the play offs ? I think that Pontus is a loan with an option/clause to buy once he has reached a few games - my Leeds workmate raves about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Suicide not to replace Fonte this window but since we didn't replace anyone who left in the summer it would not surprise me. Any half decent centre backs available for loan till end of season? Arsenal, Chelsea and United all have loads of CB's. Cheeky loan for one of them? Getting more desperate some one like Micah Richards?! Better than Gardos/Stephens and just as calamitous as Yoshida? Having watched Richards at Villa, I'd rather have Ralph Krueger at CB thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bstokesaint Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Having watched Richards at Villa, I'd rather have Ralph Krueger at CB thanks. Problem is the thought of Yoshida for the rest of the season is just as scary! I admit he's improved but he still switches off way too much and you're sat waiting for him to make a clanger. If VVD gets injured or suspended then we are in serious trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 I think Yoshida is a decent premier league defender and can certainly do a job there until the end of the season. The problem is if Van Dijk gets injured or suspended then we are in serious trouble. Stephens is pretty much untested and Gardos is almost a write off. If we lose Fonte and do not replace him then Les Reed should have serious questions to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 We all know Les ment Stephens and Gardos when he mentioned replacements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 My short term options: - Move bertrand to centre back (he played for a period there for us previously) ) I think this/see how Yoshida goes is probably a good option with the emergence of McQueen and Targett due to come back. A back four of McQueen, Bertrand, Van Dijk, Cedric seems pretty good to me. He's hardly the shortest left back around and has the experience I think to change position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 We all know Les ment Stephens and Gardos when he mentioned replacements! Incredible if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 We all know Les ment Stephens and Gardos when he mentioned replacements! No he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 No he didn't. So we should be making a signing tomorrow then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 So we should be making a signing tomorrow then ? Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 We need to replace, we are 9 points from bottom and we're on an awful run of form in the league, we also need to replace Pelle. How we haven't been active in this window is beyond me. I'm sure we have been but it's worrying that there seems to be no news apart from Fonte leaving and possibly VVD. If we keep the squad as is then I will be very worried. Only takes another injury or 2 and we're goosed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Sign Sakho FFS. Will know it's gone to rat-sh1t if we don't replace Fonte AND sign a decent striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 FFS some of you morons (thanks VFTT) will believe any old sheeite is fact if it's posted on any form of social media. No-one apart from the club and Fonte really knows what has happened and what will result. Wait and see! Sorry it's only football, some people need to get a sense of perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 FFS some of you morons (thanks VFTT) will believe any old sheeite is fact if it's posted on any form of social media. No-one apart from the club and Fonte really knows what has happened and what will result. Wait and see! Sorry it's only football, some people need to get a sense of perspective How have you decided that we've just read stuff on social media and taken it as gospel? Is it because you've looked at the available evidence and reached that conclusion on your own? Because that's exactly what we've done. Looked at the evidence, the facts available and reached our own conclusion about events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifter Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I hope we sign Emanuel Mammana just so we can sing Mammana do do do dodo Mammana do do dodo Mammana dodo do dodo do dodo dodo dodo dodo dodo do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 To be fair to Gardos, in 11 games where he played over an hour we only lost once And only conceded 7 In those 11 games. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bstokesaint Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Understand yesterday we played many youngsters and looked like we didn't want another cup run but anyone still thinking we don't need to replace Fonte and injured VVD this window?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 To be fair to Gardos, in 11 games where he played over an hour we only lost once And only conceded 7 In those 11 games. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk I think that stat just took a nose dive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Dan Ayala @ Boro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Dan Ayala @ Boro A suggestion or we are looking at? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Problem is the thought of Yoshida for the rest of the season is just as scary! I admit he's improved but he still switches off way too much and you're sat waiting for him to make a clanger. If VVD gets injured or suspended then we are in serious trouble You haven't watched many games in the last 2-3 months if you think that Yoshida is either "switching off" or about to "make a clanger". He has largely been faultless and at least as good as Fonte before his exit. We certainly need a CB replacement though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Just mentioned on another thread, if West ham have Fonte and now lining up Maguire how about a cheeky 15m for Winston reid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Mental if we end this transfer window with not signing a CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlySaint Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Difficult one. The way the market is who is a realistic target that's a definite improvement on Yoshida? I don't know. It's probably going to be a player that's transfer listed and we can't see the transfer list can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlySaint Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 You haven't watched many games in the last 2-3 months if you think that Yoshida is either "switching off" or about to "make a clanger". He has largely been faultless and at least as good as Fonte before his exit. We certainly need a CB replacement though. Yoshida never switches off. Concentration is his strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Just mentioned on another thread, if West ham have Fonte and now lining up Maguire how about a cheeky 15m for Winston reid IIRC Reid is on crazy wages at West Ham. Way out of Saints' budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Mental if we end this transfer window with not signing a CB Totally, and if VVD is out for a long time then get two, doesnt matter if they are loan players or a signing and a loan. The truth of the matter is we have Yoshida then after that we are literally hanging on a wing and a prayer. You only need compare Stephens v Liverpool then Stephens v Arsenal to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Mental if we end this transfer window with not signing a CB I cannot agree with you more. The thought of Gardos (out for 2 years and hardly top drawer before then) and a young Jack Stephens being lumped together if Yoshida is unavailable, fills me with dread. Jack Stephens did Ok against a non firing Liverpool attack when we were set up to defend. However in games where we adopt a more offensive strategy or we go a goal down he will be more exposed. He doesn't have great pace but at least he is quicker than Gardos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 29 January, 2017 Share Posted 29 January, 2017 Papers on Merseyside suggesting that negotiations are ongoing between Saints and Liverpool for Sakho with a loan / option to buy deal looking increasingly likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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