Shance Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 The wages will definitely be a sticking point. He's on around 100k at Liverpool. We won't want to be giving him anywhere near that. I think he's holding out to see if a bigger club comes in for him, if they don't we might be in luck. If they do and they do it last minute, we could be in trouble as far as a replacement goes. Only my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 You would not accept the Fonte deal if you have not got this one over the line or close too. I expect the only sticking point was the fee rather than the wages as these are discussed upfront with the agent. Maybe the sticking point is Weds game. Would Klopp want to take the chance on him scoring or helping us keep a clean sheet at Anfield Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 The wages will definitely be a sticking point. He's on around 100k at Liverpool. We won't want to be giving him anywhere near that. I think he's holding out to see if a bigger club comes in for him, if they don't we might be in luck. If they do and they do it last minute, we could be in trouble as far as a replacement goes. Only my opinion though. You will find the agent knows what we are willing to offer and they negotiate around it once a fee is settled. If we say £55k and they want £120k then it would of been dead in the water ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Ridiculously expensive and is exactly the sort of panic signing I hope we avoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Fifa might have helped us if we are after this bloke since they are allowing Matip to play again and push Sahko even further down the pecking order ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Ridiculously expensive and is exactly the sort of panic signing I hope we avoid i hope to be proved wrong but i agree he is bang average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Fifa might have helped us if we are after this bloke since they are allowing Matip to play again and push Sahko even further down the pecking order ? He cant go any further as Klopp said he will never play again. What does worry me is he is 2 months away from match fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 That's true Pilchards - about the same time Gardos is matchfit - but with a very busted knee : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Ridiculously expensive and is exactly the sort of panic signing I hope we avoid We just sold a 33 year old Portuguese international for 8 million so I'm not really sure 20 million is to much for a 26 year old French international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 He cant go any further as Klopp said he will never play again. What does worry me is he is 2 months away from match fitness. With all that higenamine (why the **** would a player need this if they did the right fitness work?) you'd think he would be in great shape. Banned substance or not, I wonder why we are considering going near a player that has had problems at Liverpool? If we sign him you have to ask questions about our due diligence process. This would be a huge investment for a club our size. We took a risk on JRod and Austin fitness and it has not worked. Are we going to now start taking risks on players with potential personal issues too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Steer clear IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Chris Smalling when fit is better option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 January, 2017 Share Posted 23 January, 2017 - Would be making a step down to join Saints, we usually target players on the up but admittedly would have no chance of signing him he if was regularly playing for Liverpool Bertrand, Romeu and Davis don't fit that description, that's over a quarter of the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 I would go to Porto & offer £10m for Bruno Martins Indi. He's on loan to Stoke & now is the time to gazump them. He's had an excellent season & is only 24/25. Sakho has a history I would rather not Saints get involved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 Sakho has a history I would rather not Saints get involved in.But why, we all so love a bit of controversy e.g. Osvaldo. How bad can it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 I would go to Porto & offer £10m for Bruno Martins Indi. He's on loan to Stoke & now is the time to gazump them. He's had an excellent season & is only 24/25. Sakho has a history I would rather not Saints get involved in. He also knows VVD already, from the Dutch national team. I don't think they've played together yet though. Martins Indi said he misses the warm sun and living by the ocean, but if nobody in Spain or Portugal wants him, I think he'd be a great catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 Martins Indi said he misses the warm sun and living by the ocean get him a place by the solent :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 I'm not sure we'd go for Sakho if we land Gabbiadini. That could be around a £30m+ outlay. It's possible, but I'd imagine we'd be looking a cheaper defensive option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 Nothing to see here. Clearly this is someone we've scouted for ages and profiled at length as we do with all our signings. We know exactly who we are bring in to replace outgoing players well before they leave so I'm sure Sakho would have been a target even if he was in Liverpools first team, the fact he's fallen out with Klopp and been banned for doping is just a coincidence. You are obviously joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 Player choosing to join Southampton or accept other offer, has preference for England Considering Liverpool have made their stance on Mamadou Sakho clear (they want to sell him), not a lot has happened regarding the French defender. Sidelined by Jürgen Klopp following failed substance tests and late arrival for flights during the summer, the former Paris Saint-Germain captain hasn’t made an appearance this year for the Reds, and a January exit was strongly touted. However, Liverpool’s demands of £23m have put off more than one suitor, with many wanting loans rather than full transfers, most likely due to the fact the defender hasn’t played for a while. Despite this, Le10 Sport in France are reporting the player has two offers in front of him, one from the Premier League, Southampton more specifically, and one from Spartak Moscow in Russia. According to the French website, Sakho is currently trying to make up his mind between the two, even if he does have a preference for a stay in England. Spartak’s offer is said to be more financially attractive, yet, with Southampton having sold José Fonte to West Ham after the Portuguese defender handed in a transfer request, the prospect of being a first-team player in the Premier League does have its advantages. France manager Didier Deschamps has never hidden the fact that if the player started appearing regularly for a side, he would reconsider calling him up to one of his future squads, something Sakho will undoubtedly be desperate for. Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/liverpool-defender-toying-southampton-russia-offers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 Could be a deadline day deal this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/liverpool-defender-toying-southampton-russia-offers/ £23m now?! Getting larger by the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 £23m now?! Getting larger by the day! Could be a deadline day deal this one... Never believe a price in the media! I think we will get him on loan on the last day of the window with a permanent deal agreed for the seasons end if things work out and we will be paying less than 20 million with nothing like the full amount upfront. The lack of interest put's us in a strong position and i suspect Liverpool will be keen to stay on good terms with us given there need of a left back and our apparent surplus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 24 January, 2017 Share Posted 24 January, 2017 With Klopps weird obsession with not playing Sakho it gives all the power to the buyer, he's definitely going somewhere and I agree with others that he will go on loan next week, probably for a decent fee, and if impresses then a permanent in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Southampton & Spartak Moscow remain in contact for Mamadou Sakho Premier League side Southampton remain in the running for the signing of Liverpool central defender Mamadou Sakho. The Saints have initiated discussions with LFC, but are looking for a loan deal with an option to buy, whereas Liverpool would prefer to sell the player outright. There is also a considerable issue of Sakho’s wages. However, the Frenchman desperately wants to make a change this month for the sake of the survival of his career and Claude Puel’s men are well-positioned going into the final hours of the window. Russian side Spartak Moscow remain in regular contact, and would like to take the player, but he prefers to remain in England. Source: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2017/southampton-lokomotiv-moscow-remain-in-contact-for-mamadou-sakho/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Palace now bidding according to Sky..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Palace now bidding according to Sky..... Also says that fee and wages are a problem, bit like most teams that want to buy him. Reckon he will leave somewhere on loan with agreed fee in place. No-one will pay £20m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 According to a tweet from one of their reporters . High wages & a high valuation £20mil, is causing palace problems Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 TBH high wages and high valuation will cause everyone problems, not just Palace. Palace coming in at the 11th hour might suggest that we have bailed out of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 I think it's difficult to not play someone, at all, for half a season and then expect another club to cough up twenty million. Klopp has effed up his valuation through his own actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 I've always thought Sakho looks an average and clumsy player. Not comfortable on the ball either, which I thought was a prerequisite for our centrebacks these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Think we might get him on loan with option then get rid one game before clause comes in Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 I think it's difficult to not play someone, at all, for half a season and then expect another club to cough up twenty million. Klopp has effed up his valuation through his own actions. Quite so. Klopp has not only taken Sakho out of the shop window, he's locked him in the storeroom, yet still slaps a Harrod's price tag on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Palace now bidding according to Sky..... Also said on Talksh*te this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 £24mill offered by Palace according to Swedish Media - Hell yeah the Swedish media cover deadline day as much as British - true story : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Surely euros? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 yeah Correct DT €24Mill Euros it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 €24m....wow!! Palace spend in a rather haphazard manner. More doesn't mean better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 €24m....wow!! Palace spend in a rather haphazard manner. More doesn't mean better. Palace do like to splash the cash doesn't ever seem to do them much good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Too much money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 €24m....wow!! Palace spend in a rather haphazard manner. More doesn't mean better. Where have Palace got all this cash from? No wonder Big Sam wanted the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 March, 2017 Share Posted 27 March, 2017 Says Merseyside Telegraph reporter. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/03/27/southampton-eye-mamadou-sakho-chelsea-bound-virgil-van-dijks/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 27 March, 2017 Share Posted 27 March, 2017 Similar link on BBC Gossip page, suggesting we will finally offer Liverpool the £20M they were asking, now he is deemed to have proven his fitness at palace. I think that ship has sailed. We could and should have offered £10-15M on deadline day. Liverpool would probably have taken it on that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 Apparently he's been class for Palace so far. Shame we couldn't get him in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 You snooze you loose Leslie Should have got this done day before Fonte sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwoite Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 As this has come up again, it is either sloppy reporting or one of those slow burners like Gabiadini, where it took ages of rumour but still finally happened. What is happening with Caceres,though? We have yet to play him which either suggests Puel doesn't rate him, he isn't yet fit or Puel would prefer to see the current pairing get more game time. Is the Sakho rumour simply putting him back into the shop window, and his agent is trying to earn his corn, or are we really continuing to harbour a real interest? Will there be a Caceres/Sakho auction this summer where we play one club off against the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 What is happening with Caceres,though? We have yet to play him which either suggests Puel doesn't rate him, he isn't yet fit or Puel would prefer to see the current pairing get more game time. Is the Sakho rumour simply putting him back into the shop window, and his agent is trying to earn his corn, or are we really continuing to harbour a real interest? Will there be a Caceres/Sakho auction this summer where we play one club off against the other? We've only played 4 games since Caceres signed and he was still getting fit for a couple of those. We have a load of games during April so we will see rotation again and he will get game time. I guess what happens in the summer depends more on him than us as he will be a free agent after his contract with us finishes at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 If we do sell VVD we will need 2 CB's otherwise we are 1 injury away from being in this position again next year. A combination of Sakho / Ake / Carceres (granted this is based on previous reputation and I haven't actually seen him play) would do for me, suspect it may be the first 2. Realistically everyone is resigned to loosing VVD either this or next summer and Ake coming the other way would certainly soften the blow. £40/45m + Ake, would put us in a strong position to fill the required gaps (2nd CB (Sakho), CM/AM (Sigurdsson)) and that's without considering any other possible/linked sales (Tadic, Bertrand, Cedric). A massive summer ahead, Les! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 We've only played 4 games since Caceres signed and he was still getting fit for a couple of those. We have a load of games during April so we will see rotation again and he will get game time. I guess what happens in the summer depends more on him than us as he will be a free agent after his contract with us finishes at the end of the season. Maybe Caceres will play Saturday, Maya has a long trip back from Japan tonight, not much recovery time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 I'm reasonably confident that Caceres will leave at the end of the season and VVD will stay for one more year. We'll have four pretty decent centre backs in VVD, Stephens, Samuri Yoshi and Gardos. Adding Michael Keane into the mix would be an awesome move. Just don't really see Sakho being our type of player. Too inconsistent (but admit we've taken those before and they've turned out OK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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