9-3 Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Puel is out of his depth and he knows it as well if he is honest. Ralph and Les you are accountable to Southampton Football Club and its supporters. He is not the fit and you both know it as well. For the sake of the Club, change it before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Tell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Reed won't sack him. Not his style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Another thread that I will be bumping at the end of the season to laugh at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Puel is out of his depth and he knows it as well if he is honest. Ralph and Les you are accountable to Southampton Football Club and its supporters. He is not the fit and you both know it as well. For the sake of the Club, change it before it's too late. Would Puel still be out of his depth if Rodriguez, Long, Redmond and Austin took even half of the chances they wasted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Another thread that I will be bumping at the end of the season to laugh at If you're laughing at fans expecting more than lower mid table and exciting football, then you need to have look at yourself.... I'm confident that I will still want Puel out come the end of the season and probably this time next year (assuming he's not gone before hand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 If you're laughing at fans expecting more than lower mid table and exciting football, then you need to have look at yourself.... I'm confident that I will still want Puel out come the end of the season and probably this time next year (assuming he's not gone before hand). TBF if Puel wins the EFL cup, we finish 7-9th and make the semi or final of the FA cup we'd all have to acknowledge hes done very well He could possibly still do all this, so difficult to sack someone based on future potential failures. Hope for the best, expect the worst.... Puel is here all season like it or not. May as well back him while hes here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Would Puel still be out of his depth if Rodriguez, Long, Redmond and Austin took even half of the chances they wasted? Relying on those four for our goals I would suggest is something Puel was wrong to do. Rodriguez was out for the best part of 2 years and showed no signs, certainly not last summer when Puel arrived, that he was getting back to his pre-injury form. Long's goal return last year was of out character for him judging by his previous seasons, Redmond too was not a goal scorer and Austin has struggled with different injuries throughout his career and was therefore likely not to be available for periods throughout the season. So yes, Puel has some liability for our lack of attacking options. He is the manager after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 If you're laughing at fans expecting more than lower mid table and exciting football, then you need to have look at yourself.... I'm confident that I will still want Puel out come the end of the season and probably this time next year (assuming he's not gone before hand). I'm confident you'll remain disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 TBF if Puel wins the EFL cup, we finish 7-9th and make the semi or final of the FA cup we'd all have to acknowledge hes done very well He could possibly still do all this, so difficult to sack someone based on future potential failures. Hope for the best, expect the worst.... Puel is here all season like it or not. May as well back him while hes here I wholeheartedly agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 If you're laughing at fans expecting more than lower mid table and exciting football, then you need to have look at yourself.... I'm confident that I will still want Puel out come the end of the season and probably this time next year (assuming he's not gone before hand). Yes, I'm laughing at fans specifically like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 What if we get knocked out of the EFL and FA cups and finish 13th? Obviously this wouldn't be classed as a successful season also considering the way we conducted ourselves in Europe... But would people still want Puel gone? Personally I think if this is how we end up come the end of the season then he's not the man for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 I certainly don't think he's out of his depth. It may be that either other clubs find the diamond too easy to defend against, or that we don't have the right players to make a success of it. I will however be very upset (to say the least) if we don't bring a specialist striker in this window. We need a short term fix for a striker and a central defender. The long term can be dealt with in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 I certainly don't think he's out of his depth. It may be that either other clubs find the diamond too easy to defend against, or that we don't have the right players to make a success of it. I will however be very upset (to say the least) if we don't bring a specialist striker in this window. We need a short term fix for a striker and a central defender. The long term can be dealt with in the summer. Whilst we aren't playing the diamond, the point you make that I latch onto is that regardless of formation, we are too easy to play against - Too slow, too ponderous & predictable. We've seen it time & time again and it seems unless a moment of magic (Boufal) happens, we are going to run out of ideas & concede. We are almost the prototype for an "away win". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Relying on those four for our goals I would suggest is something Puel was wrong to do. Rodriguez was out for the best part of 2 years and showed no signs, certainly not last summer when Puel arrived, that he was getting back to his pre-injury form. Long's goal return last year was of out character for him judging by his previous seasons, Redmond too was not a goal scorer and Austin has struggled with different injuries throughout his career and was therefore likely not to be available for periods throughout the season. So yes, Puel has some liability for our lack of attacking options. He is the manager after all. Do you think Puel is just able to say who he wants and go and get him then? Ask any manager if he wants better than he has and they'll always say yes. Doesn't mean they get it. I'm sure Puel would have wanted another striker but Les and team didn't deliver, or weren't prepared too. Puel can rightly be held accountable for a number of things this season - the last month or so (Liverpool aside) has been pretty poor and uninspiring - but lack of a better striker than we have isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Remember when everyone slagged Mane off after 6 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 What if we get knocked out of the EFL and FA cups and finish 13th? Obviously this wouldn't be classed as a successful season also considering the way we conducted ourselves in Europe... But would people still want Puel gone? Personally I think if this is how we end up come the end of the season then he's not the man for us. Unless he changes his style of football, yes. Ultimately, results are results and you can win whilst playing poor and loose when you play well. After selling Mane and Pelle I expected us to drop out of the top 6 this year, but what I can't accept is the negative, slow and boring style of football Puel has brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Do you think Puel is just able to say who he wants and go and get him then? Ask any manager if he wants better than he has and they'll always say yes. Doesn't mean they get it. I'm sure Puel would have wanted another striker but Les and team didn't deliver, or weren't prepared too. Puel can rightly be held accountable for a number of things this season - the last month or so (Liverpool aside) has been pretty poor and uninspiring - but lack of a better striker than we have isn't one of them. Puel said at the start of the season that he was happy with the depth and quality of his squad or words to that effect. So either he was genuinely happy or he was talking corporate PR to reflect the clubs reluctance to bring anyone else in. If it's the former then he misjudged it. If it's the latter then that's understandable but leaves folk asking the questions they are asking right now. I'm still surprised we haven't further exploited Puel's extensive knowledge of the French leagues to recruit than we have to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Puel said at the start of the season that he was happy with the depth and quality of his squad or words to that effect. So either he was genuinely happy or he was talking corporate PR to reflect the clubs reluctance to bring anyone else in. If it's the former then he misjudged it. If it's the latter then that's understandable but leaves folk asking the questions they are asking right now. I'm still surprised we haven't further exploited Puel's extensive knowledge of the French leagues to recruit than we have to this point. Very naive to believe Puel is / was happy with the squad. As poor as we've been this year, not all the blame can be pointed at Puel.. Recruitment this summer was not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Would Puel still be out of his depth if Rodriguez, Long, Redmond and Austin took even half of the chances they wasted? And there in lies the crux of the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Remember when everyone slagged Mane off after 6 months! Nope because it didn't happen. There were a few people who posted on here about him after a couple of games but the majority opinion was that he was a very good player who was a bit raw. Don't try to reinvent history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Very naive to believe Puel is / was happy with the squad. As poor as we've been this year, not all the blame can be pointed at Puel.. Recruitment this summer was not good enough. I don't believe he was happy but he said he was and therefore it's being used against him. I am certainly not blaming Puel for everything, far from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Remember when everyone slagged Mane off after 6 months! One good apple doesn't unspoil the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyd Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 You have a club with no ambition, a money making machine with no backing and an attitude that we must try every youth player to see the possibilities. Half the fans are pleased with no ambition and I gave even heard people hark back to league 1 days. I am afraid this problem is much deeper routed than just a poor manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9-3 Posted 21 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 21 January, 2017 We have gone back not forward. As I said Puel is out of his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 And with Fonte departs the last of the great class of 2012. What a shame. Club is going backwards under Puel. Everywhere you look is failure, failure that has actually happened, and failures that are extremely likely to happen soon. Enough is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I'm a little unimpressed at the moment. But to conclude Puel is "out of his depth" and disaster is beckoning is surely premature. Mind you, this was the web forum on which some people were claiming Sadio Mane was only a League One quality player..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Bring in someone this window who can score goals, and a decent replacement for Fonte, then we can judge him. At the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I'm a little unimpressed at the moment. But to conclude Puel is "out of his depth" and disaster is beckoning is surely premature. Mind you, this was the web forum on which some people were claiming Sadio Mane was only a League One quality player..... Some even claimed he wasn't good enough for Eastleigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Puel said at the start of the season that he was happy with the depth and quality of his squad or words to that effect. So either he was genuinely happy or he was talking corporate PR to reflect the clubs reluctance to bring anyone else in. If it's the former then he misjudged it. If it's the latter then that's understandable but leaves folk asking the questions they are asking right now. I'm still surprised we haven't further exploited Puel's extensive knowledge of the French leagues to recruit than we have to this point. You out even answered your own question. Of course Puel is going to say he is happy with his squad, he works for SFC and a new employee and he is going to project a unified front. It no big conspiracy nor is he Reeds puppet reading off a script, more importantly he wants to project to his squad that they are good enough. Or should he be like Moyes and publically declare his side is deficient after two games. People were really gutted when it looked like Long might have been moving on at the end of last season but now he is not good enough, people have been knocking Puel saying he can't get out of Long what Koeman did, now we hear that Longs last season was a blip that everyone at the club should have seen. I know this is not necessarily the same people saying different things but it shows you what a knife edge these decisions are on? We as SFC back our current players and that is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. We gambled in the summer that Long and Jay Rod were good enough and that the £40m we spent would have an positive impact, it's not the biggest footballing crime. I would like to see a new striker but other than that I am going to just sit back and see where we are in the summer. I'm calm and enjoying the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Surely the overriding objective from our perspective as fans is to improve and kick on. This season, we haven't and have actually gone backwards. We have failed to replace key players, put blind faith in an untested strikeforce with propensity to or recovering from injury, and above all, are playing some of the most turgid, depressing, negative football I've seen from a Saints team in 30+ years. However positive we want to be, this hasn't been a progressive season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzzy Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 The football this season has been boring tactics all wrong Puell has romoved any confidence the players had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I'm inclined to agree with the original post. Looking at teams like Swansea and Hull picking up points just makes me think that we're about to get into a relegation battle. With the uninspiring, Puel in charge I honestly don't think we've got the fight in us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Surely the overriding objective from our perspective as fans is to improve and kick on. This season, we haven't and have actually gone backwards. We have failed to replace key players, put blind faith in an untested strikeforce with propensity to or recovering from injury, and above all, are playing some of the most turgid, depressing, negative football I've seen from a Saints team in 30+ years. However positive we want to be, this hasn't been a progressive season Who expects improvement every season though? does any team improve every season of course as fans we would like that but in reality football just isn't like that. Its all relative depending on your club but most clubs have good and bad seasons. As saints fans we have got used to improving for the last seven years but the more we improved the harder it gets to do the same the next season it was inevitable that we would have seasons were things aren't so great sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Nope because it didn't happen. There were a few people who posted on here about him after a couple of games but the majority opinion was that he was a very good player who was a bit raw. Don't try to reinvent history. There's only a few people on here that post about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I'm inclined to agree with the original post. Looking at teams like Swansea and Hull picking up points just makes me think that we're about to get into a relegation battle. With the uninspiring, Puel in charge I honestly don't think we've got the fight in us. That's not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Would Puel still be out of his depth if Rodriguez, Long, Redmond and Austin took even half of the chances they wasted? F..u..ck..i.n.g well put mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Leicester are 4-1 to win. Can we see anything different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 There are problems other than Puel. That doesn't mean Puel isn't a problem. We play the worst football style I've ever seen. So negative and just boring. When we concede we never look like getting back into the game. The manner we lose is terrible. Europe was a disaster. People blame the strikers finishing but who trains them? Who sends them out? The over rotation kills confidence and partnerships. JRod scores and is then dropped. Sims is man of the match and then dropped. How can players gain confidence and understanding? This is down to the manager. To me, the players don't seem to be playing for him at all. The EFL cup has been the 1 highlight. Let's hope he doesn't think defending a 1-0 lead with a line of 2 on the edge of the box at Anfield is the way to go through. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukee Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Hate when people describe Puel as ''out of his depth''. It's like he's just some random guy Les Reed pulled off the street. He hasn't been doing that well, but as people in the club have said he hasn't had the opportunity to do strategical training sessions, but instead recovery and preparation. He was a fitness coach so knows the limits of his players and delivers sessions according to our big schedule. Maybe over-rotation is due to our many years of playing in few competitions and therefore lacking fitness to maintain players. I don't know. Like others have said, if our strikers had been taking their shots, we'd be in a much better position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 That's not funny. I know it isn't. It's not meant to be funny. It's a very scary prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Puel is out of his depth and he knows it as well if he is honest. Ralph and Les you are accountable to Southampton Football Club and its supporters. He is not the fit and you both know it . Clearly out of his depth Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Shows why Claude is manager and 9-3 is not. Jeez. Armchair string-vest and undies "experts".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Shows why Claude is manager and 9-3 is not. Jeez. Armchair string-vest and undies "experts".... Stop putting pictures in my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Puel is out of his depth and he knows it as well if he is honest. Ralph and Les you are accountable to Southampton Football Club and its supporters. He is not the fit and you both know it as well. For the sake of the Club, change it before it's too late. Is it too late yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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