Edmonton Saint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Yet again the Puel safety first defensive ethos of football has seen us lose when we could and should have had the three points sewn up. We just can't seem to punish teams when we are on top, and putting the ball in the net seems a real problem with this system. I still am of the belief that there is enough talent in the squad for us to be doing better, so therefore questions need to be asked of the manager. For what ever reason, it's not working.
Katalinic Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 If we play like that for the rest of the season, we'll get more wins than defeats We have played like that for most of the season and we haven't so far. You dress it up all you like but the football we play is impotent and dull.
Wrensup Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Let's be realistic, we didn't play that badly at all. They were lucky to win that game. How bad does it get before the luck element isn't a factor? Because it's got to be not bloody long now eh!
Pamplemousse Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 I'm totally bored with Puel now and his complete inability to set this team up with any sort of chance to win/draw consistently away from home. He sets us up not to lose when he should be setting us up to try to win. It is utterly negative dross. We have had a few seasons where the coaches appreciated that you have to go all out to win every game including the away matches because getting the three points is a big deal. Puel is incapable of trying to win by going for it away from the comfort of St Marys. The man is like his football - utterly drab and boring. Missed chances and goalkeeping errors don't help but it's the negativity that does for us every time. What game were you watching? You cannot possibly say that we set up not to lose today. We had by far the lion's share of possession and chances.
S-Clarke Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 To be fair if we play like that for the rest of the seasons we'll probably get lots of 0-0's and 0-1's. Death by football.
Dalek2003 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 If we play like that for the rest of the season, we'll get more wins than defeats. Leicester game is must win though. You have to be trolling, you are so way off reality.
hypochondriac Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Interesting possibilities and important moments. etc. I'm bored out of my skin watching this team, absolutely bored to ****. Indeed that is by far the worst thing. It's getting to the point that I no longer look forward to watching the 90 minutes. It's Soooo dull!
badgerx16 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Long apparently "isn't that kind of player" so not scoring from open play all season isn't cause for concern. What sort of player is he ?
beatlesaint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 I'm sure Puel doesn't want to players to not be able to shot properly or convert chances. He needs better players before he can judged. No sure Koeman would have faired much better with these midfield and forward options. You are right, if Koeman knew he was losing Pelle and Mane and they weren't going to be properly replaced he would have left........oh......
Baird of the land Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Think the problems are for more the tactical approach of the manager than the quality of the players we have. We are completely one dimensional and a new striker unless he's a giant who can head the ball brilliantly isn't going to do much to help.
Pamplemousse Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 It's weird. I feel like I just watched a totally different game to you. How long would it have to carry on like this until you decide that this isn't working? It will work. The Liverpool game showed that. And when we beat Leicester, that will show too.
washsaint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 It's weird. I feel like I just watched a totally different game to you. How long would it have to carry on like this until you decide that this isn't working? Because you watched the game you wanted to watch. We were not dull or terrible - our finishing is the difference between being higher in the League and where we are now.
adrian lord Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Saints have never been a defensive club. Puel has been dealt a bad hand but his philosophy doesn't help either.
Morse Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 You can argue about the merits or otherwise of Puel, but what is absolutely beyond down is we need to buy a quality striker ASAP. Les Reed should be taken outside and shot for gambling on the fitness of Austin
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 I'm totally bored with Puel now and his complete inability to set this team up with any sort of chance to win/draw consistently away from home. He sets us up not to lose when he should be setting us up to try to win. It is utterly negative dross. Complete and utter pony . We weren't negative or set up not to lose. We had chance after chance to make something happen and the players final ball was woeful. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
St Marco Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Let's be honest here it's the same old story. Got some really tough games coming up. When was the last time we lost 4 in a row in the league? I'm guessing maybe Adkins 1st season in pl?
CanadaSaint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 God only knows what Puel has to do before someone at the club has the balls to pull the trigger on him. His tactical style is miserably negative - keep possession and hope to God that someone who can't hit a penetrating pass gets one through to someone who can't score but does. It wouldn't even work if he had some semblance of motivational skill, which he doesn't. I'm normally one of the optimists, but not when it comes to this guy. For Anfield, he's already going over the pitiful hold-the-lead tactical 'package' he used against Inter.
Ohio Saint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 As a confirmed happy clapper, I can confirm that I no longer have the clap.
St.Jeweller Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Joey Barton will probably be convicted of these 1,500 odd illegal bets he's had in a week or so and be banned for the rest of the season. If so Puel should appeal to the Premier league for a rematch.
badgerx16 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 You have to be trolling, you are so way off reality. He still has a fair way to go to catch you up.
Manuel Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Redmond is so one footed which doesn't help infront of goal.
saintant Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 What game were you watching? You cannot possibly say that we set up not to lose today. We had by far the lion's share of possession and chances. We lost in case you haven't realised yet.
DT Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Going down at this rate. Unless we give Pull the boot Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mr Biscuits Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 im done. I cannot watch this any more. I'm not bothering for the rest of the season.
Lighthouse Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Sh*te, dull football but we aren't in a relegation fight. It's not as if we went up there, got battered and were never in the game. In fact only the Spurs and Chelsea games have really been like that. It's all well and good blaming the clubs transfer policy but we do have attacking players. I would expect poor form from Redmond, Long, J Rod, Tadic OR Boufal but not all of them at the same time, for the whole season.
IOWSaintDaz Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Such a crappy feeling this season after all the highs of the previous 2-3 seasons under ambitious managers who set up the team to play and man manage players the right way. it's 2 steps forward and 1 massive step back......back to the championship that is if this continues i'd also like to think we'll beat Liverpool to reach Wembley but if by some miracle we achieve that we'd probably get annihilated by Utd in the final with this team the way we play. Unlikely we'll do any business in the transfer window going by Puel's Thursday pre-match press conference too which only confirms our lack of ambition to push on from last season which we should of done correctly in the summer after losing Mane,Pelle and Wanyama without Austin we are toothless and Useless, and if Alex McCarthy is fit for the love of god PLAY him instead of that oaf we currently have between the sticks
saintant Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Complete and utter pony . We weren't negative or set up not to lose. We had chance after chance to make something happen and the players final ball was woeful. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Tell me, what was the score again?
Pamplemousse Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 im done. I cannot watch this any more. I'm not bothering for the rest of the season. Good, you're obviously not a proper fan anyway. Go and support the skates.
Wes Tender Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 We outplayed Burnley for most of the match but how we miss somebody like Pelle or Mane to convert the chances we created. Hojbjerg had a decent game in midfield, as did Romeu until his stupid gift to Burnley, who will thank him and Forster for gifting them three points. J W-P was largely anonymous as was Tadic. We missed Davis. As usual, we are more effective with Bertrand and Cedric giving us the width and pace out wide, but all of that is nullified when you don't have somebody in the box to convert their crosses. We desperately need to buy or loan a striker before the January window closes.
Heisenberg Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Was around week 21 last season that our season really kicked up a gear. We are 3 points worse off just now, but 5 of our next 6 are against Leicester, Swansea, Watford, WHU and Sunderland and 3 of them games at home. Beat Liverpool end of Jan and make the most of these easier fixtures and possibly we could salvage something in the league.
hypochondriac Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Because you watched the game you wanted to watch. We were not dull or terrible - our finishing is the difference between being higher in the League and where we are now. The same charge could very much be levelled at you. Particularly because it seems that many others share my opinion.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Complete and utter pony . We weren't negative or set up not to lose. We had chance after chance to make something happen and the players final ball was woeful. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Don't know about the final ball, the finishing was woeful though. We should have scored at least 3 and that's without the great saves that Heaton made. Tadic drags it wide twice, Virgil heads straight at the keeper etc
Saints foreva Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 But, but, but Koeman's Saints lost 1-0 here as well.....
Lighthouse Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 What sort of player is he ? 'A good lad in the dressing room' 'A good option to have on the bench' 'Always gives his best' Apparently...
badgerx16 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Complete and utter pony . We weren't negative or set up not to lose. We had chance after chance to make something happen and the players final ball was woeful. And when the final ball does go into the right areas, there generally isn't anybody getting close to it. Why can't we try playing 2 up top, just for an experiment ?
dellboysaint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 I'm totally bored with Puel now and his complete inability to set this team up with any sort of chance to win/draw consistently away from home. He sets us up not to lose when he should be setting us up to try to win. It is utterly negative dross. We have had a few seasons where the coaches appreciated that you have to go all out to win every game including the away matches because getting the three points is a big deal. Puel is incapable of trying to win by going for it away from the comfort of St Marys. The man is like his football - utterly drab and boring. Missed chances and goalkeeping errors don't help but it's the negativity that does for us every time. Some players have lost confidence in Puel, notably Forster, Fonte and Long. Serious drop in standards from some superb players last year. A real management issue.
Pamplemousse Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Burnley didn't look like scoring at all before Romeu gave away a stupid free kick. I agree about the sentiments needing a striker. Hopefully the Gabbiadini deal and a couple of others will go through soon.
Toomer Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 As much as I disliked Cortese would he have let this carry on.
Sour Mash Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 How the f%#k did we lose that game? In what way, any shape or form were they better than us?
NornIronFan Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Fraser Forster.......rapidly losing faith in the guy. Can't actually remember the last time the big guy has made a half decent save. These past few months it's seems that virtually every opposition shot on target, is destined for the back of our net. Hate to say it but Fraser is becoming a liability.
Dalek2003 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 How long before Alex McCarthy is fit or at least try Stuart Taylor. Oh, and ffs get in a striker as Charlies Austin probably won't be back until April.
Badger Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 To be fair if we play like that for the rest of the seasons we'll probably get lots of 0-0's and 0-1's. Death by football. Not if we can't score goals, and habitually concede soft ones we won't. All very well people making lame statements such as "bit unlucky today", "played well today but..", "on another day we'd..." . Today follows a familiar pattern of matches at Palace, Hull, even Everton, where we do nearly enough until we get near their penalty area, or the opposition have a shot at Forster. As we all know - bar Reed it seems - we need a striker, and a goalkeeper who can use his hands more effectively wouldn't go amiss either. Shame about McCarthy not being available as I expect he'd have taken the position over the last few week.
Ohio Saint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 im done. I cannot watch this any more. I'm not bothering for the rest of the season. Goodbye, we don't need fans like you.
tobes8 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 As said in match thread after the highs of midweek (Liverpool were very poor it must be said) we have once again produced a load of garbage. it appears some people on this forum are completely comfortable with one decent performance in 4/5 games and our ever discreet board seem so as well. Football is an entertainment business and we are terrible and boring to watch. People state don't blame puel.. so why drop jrod after a decent effort on Wednesday, especially against the team where he came from. Sorry purl is 50% of the issue. The other is the messiah les read for being blind to the fact all summer that we were woefully short in an attacking sense...
LeBizzier69 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 It's hard to think how any coach can think that this style of football is the way forward. He seems pretty inflexible in his philosophy.
stevy777_x Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 There are 2 main problems in the team right now: -Lack of cutting edge not only from our strikers but from the whole team. Final ball is woeful and when we do get into scoring areas we take an age to shoot. -Our GK. He is seriously costing us a lot of points. Palace, Spurs, West Brom and now Burnley come to mind. A lot of the goals conceded are saveble. Can someone provide an update on McCarthy? Until we resolve these 2 issues, results will be more of the same.
jamesfp1 Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 But seriously, what on earth is going on. Where are our JWP and Austin replacements... Why hasn't Forster put Palace behind him... Why did I have to be born in Southampton...
Atlanta Saint Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Clueless and toothless. They have no idea where to goal is let alone the ability to score. Why do we storm forward with the ball only to stop and pass sideways or backwards, we are clueless in the final third. All our possession means nothing, I'm sure most of our possession occurs in our own half. Sad as we battered this team in October.
iansums Posted 14 January, 2017 Posted 14 January, 2017 Do you think we might be one of those teams that gets to Wembley but also gets relegated?
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