Suhari Posted 28 May, 2019 Share Posted 28 May, 2019 Eric Black is coming back As a goalkeeping coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 28 May, 2019 Share Posted 28 May, 2019 We're going Back to Black? (One for us Amy Winehouse fans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 28 May, 2019 Share Posted 28 May, 2019 I always liked Shilton , he wasn't perfect but he knew how to command the area ! (don't mention the Jag incident ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 28 May, 2019 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2019 Ian Black was one of our best goalkeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 May, 2019 Share Posted 28 May, 2019 Frederik Gößling was Ralph's GK coach at Leipzig, where he still works. Perhaps a name to look out for. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk **** me, not another umlaut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 29 May, 2019 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2019 **** me, not another umlaut? No, an Eszett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 May, 2019 Share Posted 29 May, 2019 No, an Eszett. Isn't that an umlaut over the 'o' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 June, 2019 Share Posted 8 June, 2019 I don't think the club has had a good keeping coach since David Coles He’s available. https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-part-company-former-2956174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Andrew Sparkes leaving Orlando Pirates, might be something in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Andrew Sparkes leaving Orlando Pirates, might be something in this. Is he a good option in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Is he a good option in your opinion? Very highly respected coach amongst UK based Gk coaches. I’ve magpied a lot of his ideas and methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Very highly respected coach amongst UK based Gk coaches. I’ve magpied a lot of his ideas and methods. [emoji106] let’s hope he’s on his way to us as it’s one area that needs shall we say freshening up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Very highly respected coach amongst UK based Gk coaches. I’ve magpied a lot of his ideas and methods. Better than Erick Black or worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Better than Erick Black or worse? Did he coach the goalies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harriesss Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 Very highly respected coach amongst UK based Gk coaches. I’ve magpied a lot of his ideas and methods. His most recent follow on Twitter is the Saints Player Liaison Officer, not that that means anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 June, 2019 Share Posted 12 June, 2019 His most recent follow on Twitter is the Saints Player Liaison Officer, not that that means anything. - K,Billy’s little clue... - Sparkes leaving his current club. - Now following Saints staff Pretty positive signs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Now following Saints. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Andrew Sparkes leaving Orlando Pirates, might be something in this. Spent time with both Red Bull Salzburg and New York Red Bulls so is well known by the Red Bull "family" and I guess by tenuous extension might also be known to Ralph as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Hopefully the end of zero talent Watson Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Hopefully the end of zero talent Watson Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Obviously you are having a very bad day as all you seem to want to do is slag off our players and now a coach. Who next I wonder? Let's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 Obviously you are having a very bad day as all you seem to want to do is slag off our players and now a coach. Who next I wonder? Let's What players? Huh. Dave Watson is a myth. Looking forward to a fresh approach in the GK coaching department Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 June, 2019 Share Posted 16 June, 2019 What players? Huh. Dave Watson is a myth. Looking forward to a fresh approach in the GK coaching department Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He must have something about him to have had a successful career but it's a fact that since he's been at the club every keeper we've had has regressed or stagnated, time for some new coaching techniques me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Sparkes just put on his twitter he's leaving south africa and heading home to england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Sparkes just put on his twitter he's leaving south africa and heading home to england [ATTACH=CONFIG]2818[/ATTACH] Great spot, mate. Wonder who the new club is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 Great spot, mate. Wonder who the new club is... he also follows Gunn and Southampton on twitter and Jaidi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 June, 2019 Share Posted 24 June, 2019 he also follows Gunn and Southampton on twitter and Jaidi [ATTACH=CONFIG]2819[/ATTACH] Big fan of ex-Man City keepers & the development of our U23’s last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Dave is staying but in a new role dont know what it is exactly but I guess he will work with the whole first team now. Leaving Sparkes to coach the keepers he and ralph feel we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Dave is staying but in a new role dont know what it is exactly but I guess he will work with the whole first team now. Leaving Sparkes to coach the keepers he and ralph feel we need. Interesting. Any updates on any other incomings/outgoings K Billy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Dave is staying but in a new role dont know what it is exactly but I guess he will work with the whole first team now. Leaving Sparkes to coach the keepers he and ralph feel we need.Finally ascended to the Sammy Lee role as chief cone putter outer. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Finally ascended to the Sammy Lee role as chief cone putter outer. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Or Dennis T-shirt Half-Time Entertainment Officer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Dave is staying but in a new role dont know what it is exactly but I guess he will work with the whole first team now. Leaving Sparkes to coach the keepers he and ralph feel we need.Thanks for the update, am ok with Dave in a different role he seems to have it anyway so that was maybe diluting his effectiveness as goalkeeping coach. Now thatwe have sparkes he can focus 100% on the club's keepers etc it can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 25 June, 2019 Share Posted 25 June, 2019 Dave is staying but in a new role dont know what it is exactly but I guess he will work with the whole first team now. Leaving Sparkes to coach the keepers he and ralph feel we need. Club hair stylist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Dave is staying but in a new role dont know what it is exactly but I guess he will work with the whole first team now. Leaving Sparkes to coach the keepers he and ralph feel we need. Adkins always used to praise Watson when we scored creative freekick routines saying that he was the one who came up with them, maybe he'll be specficially a set piece coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Adkins always used to praise Watson when we scored creative freekick routines saying that he was the one who came up with them, maybe he'll be specficially a set piece coach. Adkins? Thought Watson joined when Koeman was manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Adkins? Thought Watson joined when Koeman was manager? I’m pretty sure that was the case too. Joined in the summer IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Adkins always used to praise Watson when we scored creative freekick routines saying that he was the one who came up with them, maybe he'll be specficially a set piece coach. what like getting harry kane to take corners in the world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Adkins always used to praise Watson when we scored creative freekick routines saying that he was the one who came up with them, maybe he'll be specficially a set piece coach. Adins left in January 2013 Watson joined in July 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 26 June, 2019 Share Posted 26 June, 2019 Finally ascended to the Sammy Lee role as chief cone putter outer. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk That's a tad demeaning, he is also capable of telling the 4th official who the subs will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 6 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 6 October, 2019 All of the goalkeepers at the club seem to be getting worse under the coaching of Dave Watson. In his capacity as England goalkeeping coach appointed by Roy Hodgson he even seemed to have an influence in wrecking the seemingly impregnable Joe Hart's career. I'm not sure that it's ever a good idea to take any coach from the awful England FA coaching setup, even though Dave Watson did at least play fro Barnsley, in contrast with many others, like Les Reed, who had no league experience. One thing I've noticed with our goalies is that they have become much more hesitant. Watson seems to have go them thinking too much about where they are going to place the ball before they get it. He's also made them reluctant to come off the line for crosses. In his pre-match warmups he lobs the ball to them so that they never have to come more than a yard off their line. Watson has had long enough to be judged now as well as in his last job at Norwich, and he's failed. Time for him to go. He's still here, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 October, 2019 Share Posted 6 October, 2019 He's still here, isn't he? He is, but he isn't the goalkeeping coach. Seems to have turned his talents to set pieces. We used to be good at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 6 October, 2019 Share Posted 6 October, 2019 First team coaches Kelvin Davis and Dave Watson both were keepers. There is a big part of our problem Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 7 October, 2019 Share Posted 7 October, 2019 First team coaches Kelvin Davis and Dave Watson both were keepers. There is a big part of our problem Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk What's their position as players got to do with it? If they were solely focused on keepers, how come our goalkeepers have been full of mistakes the last few seasons? It's hardly as if we're bringing through loads of CBs with Jaidi as our u21s manager is it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 7 October, 2019 Share Posted 7 October, 2019 These scapegoating threads appear earlier each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 October, 2019 Share Posted 7 October, 2019 These scapegoating threads appear earlier each season. Some others though, like this one, run for three seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 October, 2019 Share Posted 8 October, 2019 I’m pretty sure that was the case too. Joined in the summer IIRC. Fair enough, not sure who Adkins was referring to then but I definitely remember him saying that. Guessing whoever it was is long gone by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin Posted 8 October, 2019 Share Posted 8 October, 2019 Fair enough, not sure who Adkins was referring to then but I definitely remember him saying that. Guessing whoever it was is long gone by now. Pretty sure that was Andy Crosby, his assistant, who came up with the free kick routines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 October, 2019 Share Posted 8 October, 2019 Pretty sure that was Andy Crosby, his assistant, who came up with the free kick routines. That sounds right. We had some cracking routines in that time, very inventive and scored some great goals - and that at a time when you'd expect every freekick within 30 yards of goal to be a shot from Lambert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 8 October, 2019 Author Share Posted 8 October, 2019 That sounds right. We had some cracking routines in that time, very inventive and scored some great goals - and that at a time when you'd expect every freekick within 30 yards of goal to be a shot from Lambert! Another factor was that in the past we had genuine 'dead-ball specialists' like Lambert and Le Tissier, who could score from a high percentage of our free-kicks around the opposition penalty area, instead of nearly always kicking them a yard high and to the right of the goal like our current so-called 'dead ball specialist' does. In the time JWP has been taking our free-kicks, we would have racked up about 20 more goals if either of them had been taking them. I'd like to see Boufal given the opportunity to take them as he has shown that he has the technical ability to curl a shot into the top corner of the net and would probably not need about 50 attempts to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 8 October, 2019 Share Posted 8 October, 2019 Another factor was that in the past we had genuine 'dead-ball specialists' like Lambert and Le Tissier, who could score from a high percentage of our free-kicks around the opposition penalty area, instead of nearly always kicking them a yard high and to the right of the goal like our current so-called 'dead ball specialist' does. In the time JWP has been taking our free-kicks, we would have racked up about 20 more goals if either of them had been taking them. I'd like to see Boufal given the opportunity to take them as he has shown that he has the technical ability to curl a shot into the top corner of the net and would probably not need about 50 attempts to do so. I’m not a huge fan of JWP and agree that his set pieces have been a myth for much of his time, BUT in fairness to him he has actually scored a couple of free kicks more recently (I’m including back end of last season) and only a great Lloris save prevented another at Spurs. As I say, I agree that his dead ball skills (and play in general) are overrated but over his entire career with us, he’s probably experiencing his best patch from edge of the box FKs. Even Le Tissier and Lambert didn’t score every time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 December, 2019 Share Posted 22 December, 2019 I have been a massive critic of Watson but if it is correct he is in charge of set pieces I think he has improved our set plays tremendously. There is starting to be a lot more creativity. We also are looking more dangerous at these. So if he is the man doing this brilliant keep up the good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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