DT Posted 18 April, 2017 Posted 18 April, 2017 Mrs JBS got to the ground ahead of me (supping an ale down the road) she made the exact same observation. also, his hair is shiite
captainchris Posted 22 April, 2017 Posted 22 April, 2017 Ah so today is the let's blame Dave Watson day is it? Errrrr that is comment is well off the mark.... People have rightly been asking questions of Dave Watson all season...
Nordic Saint Posted 22 July, 2017 Author Posted 22 July, 2017 Judging from the comments about Fraser Forster on here a lot of our fans have completely forgotten just how good Fraser Forster was before Dave Watson got to work on him. Forster used to be very good.
Crab Lungs Posted 22 July, 2017 Posted 22 July, 2017 Judging from the comments about Fraser Forster on here a lot of our fans have completely forgotten just how good Fraser Forster was before Dave Watson got to work on him. Forster used to be very good. He done nothing at Celtic to make me think he was any good. One game at Barcelona and then a load of wispy shots from League One failures hitting him in the SPL
Nordic Saint Posted 29 October, 2017 Author Posted 29 October, 2017 If we keep the same goalkeeping coach. I'm not sure that buying another goalkeeper will solve the root cause of the problem.
saints-til-i-die Posted 29 October, 2017 Posted 29 October, 2017 Who has improved under this joker? England got rid of him.
captainchris Posted 29 October, 2017 Posted 29 October, 2017 He is the best folder carrier in the PL He is obviously a complete buffoon .... worrying that senior management cannot see this. In fact very odd ....
Katalinic Posted 26 May, 2019 Posted 26 May, 2019 Hearing rumors....... You mean you read the post by KBilly on the other thread (cue you pretending you hadn't seen it before). Try harder.
DT Posted 26 May, 2019 Posted 26 May, 2019 Judging from the comments about Fraser Forster on here a lot of our fans have completely forgotten just how good Fraser Forster was before Dave Watson got to work on him. Forster used to be very good. Forster was always awful. It's just the defenders in front of him disappeared so he was exposed. He knows this.
SuperSAINT Posted 26 May, 2019 Posted 26 May, 2019 Forster was always awful. It's just the defenders in front of him disappeared so he was exposed. He knows this. Not just defenders. I remember when we had Morgan & Big Vic in midfield we statistically conceded the fewest shots against us.
Gordon Mockles Posted 26 May, 2019 Posted 26 May, 2019 I don't think the club has had a good keeping coach since David Coles I think this post is a little over sensationalised but has some interesting points but you, on Coles, have a very good point. Now that’s a blast from the past and he really was a good goalkeeping coach. We miss him.
Pilchards Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 So you get rid of Watson and replace with Davis. Hope he’s an upgrade?
Give it to Ron Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 So you get rid of Watson and replace with Davis. Hope he’s an upgrade? Can he be much worse? All the keepers regressed since here. My sons mate works at Norwich and was raving about Gunn to me he has gone backwards. When he first can he commanded the area and was confident now how many times is he stuck on line not talking to defence? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
egg Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Doesn't Watson do much more than 'coach' our keepers. I'm pretty sure that RH said recently that he did the corner routines where we have looked decent. In terms of keepers coaching, Mccarthy tailed off last season but before that he'd come on massively and Watson has to be due credit for that. Forster was half decent when he arrived, no more than that, and there are strong rumours that his down turn in fortunes are health related rather than anything else. What's this assessment that he's sh1te based on?
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Doesn't Watson do much more than 'coach' our keepers. I'm pretty sure that RH said recently that he did the corner routines where we have looked decent. In terms of keepers coaching, Mccarthy tailed off last season but before that he'd come on massively and Watson has to be due credit for that. Forster was half decent when he arrived, no more than that, and there are strong rumours that his down turn in fortunes are health related rather than anything else. What's this assessment that he's sh1te based on? The volume of goalkeeping mistakes and the deterioration of these goalkeepers the longer they have been here.
Turkish Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Doesn't Watson do much more than 'coach' our keepers. I'm pretty sure that RH said recently that he did the corner routines where we have looked decent. In terms of keepers coaching, Mccarthy tailed off last season but before that he'd come on massively and Watson has to be due credit for that. Forster was half decent when he arrived, no more than that, and there are strong rumours that his down turn in fortunes are health related rather than anything else. What's this assessment that he's sh1te based on? The same basis that it was all Eric Blacks vault. Mongboard mythology
MarkSFC Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 I'm not so sure that the keepers have deteriorated that much (Forster aside perhaps, but get the impression theres something else going on there) more that the quality of defenders and DCM in front of them has worsened. This exposes them to more work and the more often a keeper is faced with shots and other work to do, the more likely it is to see their true ability level. It's pretty clear though that Ralph prefers Gunn to McCarthy and it would seem likely that he will move on, and hopefully Forster too. Moving Watson on too would fit in with the revolution Ralph seems like creating this summer.
stevy777_x Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 So you get rid of Watson and replace with Davis. Hope he’s an upgrade? Who said Kelvin was going to replace Dave?
egg Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 The volume of goalkeeping mistakes and the deterioration of these goalkeepers the longer they have been here. So what/who was the reason for Mccarthy huge improvement? Osmosis? Or Watson?
qwertyell Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Frederik Gößling was Ralph's GK coach at Leipzig, where he still works. Perhaps a name to look out for. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk
paulwantsapint Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Who was the last truly good goalkeeper without great defensive unit in front? Is it going back to early 90s with Tim Flowers?
Nordic Saint Posted 27 May, 2019 Author Posted 27 May, 2019 The same basis that it was all Eric Blacks vault. Mongboard mythology And he's never come out of his vault since. I wonder if he claims sickness benefit now with his bad back? Perhaps Watson can join him there.
K,Billy's supersound Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 New man will spark some life into the coaching setup.
shurlock Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 New man will spark some life into the coaching setup. Are there any other changes in the coaching and behind-the-scenes setup?
SuperSAINT Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 New man will spark some life into the coaching setup. Mark Hughes returning?!
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 So what/who was the reason for Mccarthy huge improvement? Osmosis? Or Watson? If he takes the credit then conversely who takes the blame for Forster being so poor ? Watson ? I think if you look at the goalkeeping position since 2014 none of our youth team have developed into this role, arguably our keepers have been one of our worst positions so it doesn't reflect well. I don't know enough about the skill set of keeping (sure monk has a view) but we just haven't been great since he joined.
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 New man will spark some life into the coaching setup. Not a goalkeeping coach but Moritz Volz was rumoured to join RB - volz - spark
nta786 Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 If he takes the credit then conversely who takes the blame for Forster being so poor ? Watson ? I think if you look at the goalkeeping position since 2014 none of our youth team have developed into this role, arguably our keepers have been one of our worst positions so it doesn't reflect well. I don't know enough about the skill set of keeping (sure monk has a view) but we just haven't been great since he joined. yep, let's not forget other supposed young talents we brought in Jack Rose and Harry Lewis- one of them was touted as being the next Joe Hart (albeit only due to the Shrewsbury link), but still, they are both behind Forster- one of them could have been the 3rd choice surely. Although, in some respect I'm probably being slightly harsh because I presume they're still very young.
VectisSaint Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 So what/who was the reason for Mccarthy huge improvement? Osmosis? Or Watson? No one. McCarthy was a decent keeper before he joined us. He just replaced the hopeless Forster, didn't actually have to improve to achieve that. Unlike Forster Mccarthy is a much more natural keeper, coaching isn't such an issue. Gunn is similar, Watson manages to try to coach them to his ways, and after a while they regress under his influence.
EBS1980 Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Not a goalkeeping coach but Moritz Volz was rumoured to join RB - volz - spark German scout for Arsenal currently I believe
northam soul Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Not a goalkeeping coach but Moritz Volz was rumoured to join RB - volz - spark Phil Parks
egg Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 No one. McCarthy was a decent keeper before he joined us. He just replaced the hopeless Forster, didn't actually have to improve to achieve that. Unlike Forster Mccarthy is a much more natural keeper, coaching isn't such an issue. Gunn is similar, Watson manages to try to coach them to his ways, and after a while they regress under his influence. To suggest Mccarthy's performances after long absences has nothing to do with coaching is just silly. It's only in here where negative performance is down to coaching but that positive performances isn't. Pathetic.
Faz Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 There's a reason The FA was very happy he left. Presumably they were also happy when he joined
VectisSaint Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 To suggest Mccarthy's performances after long absences has nothing to do with coaching is just silly. It's only in here where negative performance is down to coaching but that positive performances isn't. Pathetic. What are you on about? Where did I say anything like what you made up there? English comprehension not your strong suit.
East Kent Saint Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 What's the actual story here ? has Watson left the club ???
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 What's the actual story here ? has Watson left the club ??? Not as yet but K Billy is suggesting he is on his way out with a replacement that will be electric (or something like that)
EBS1980 Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Not as yet but K Billy is suggesting he is on his way out with a replacement that will be electric (or something like that) And will be judged by those on here by their playing career rather than coaching ability
qwertyell Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 New man will spark some life into the coaching setup.http://www.andrewsparkesgoalkeeping.com/ Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 http://www.andrewsparkesgoalkeeping.com/ Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Good shout. RBL link as well
SuperSAINT Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 http://www.andrewsparkesgoalkeeping.com/ Top sleuthing if this is true. Top clue dropping by KBSS as well.
Nolan Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Judging from his twitter https://twitter.com/andrewsparkes1 sounds like he's got a similar passion and work ethic for the game as Hasenhuttl.
karlb79 Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Who was the last truly good goalkeeper without great defensive unit in front? Is it going back to early 90s with Tim Flowers? Niemi surely?
Badger Posted 27 May, 2019 Posted 27 May, 2019 Niemi surely? My initial thought also, although he had a pretty good defence in front of him at one time.
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