sydneysaint17 Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 According to Paul Merson... http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10718827/diego-costa-olivier-giroud-antonio-conte-paul-mersons-top-premier-league-performers-so-far Would be surprised if many/any Saints fans agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Nice for Merson to be nice about us...... But he is utterly wrong!!! Looked reasonable when he came in but has faded. Maybe a reflection of the squad losing faith in how we are set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 If that's the case its great to see Saints ahead of the curve where the future standard of premier league players are going. Merson must have fallen off the wagon surely!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 always liked Merse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Saw video of Merson saying on sky "West Ham need to sell Payet for £30m and buy Martial for £20m" He knows nothing about football at all [video=youtube;-6VrnJy3lVI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6VrnJy3lVI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 He needs to sober up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Well perhaps people from the outside looking in have not such a negative view of him. I think we are a better side with him in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 I like him. He's good. But he does seem to often get to the corner of the penalty box and then lose direction, faff around without giving a killer ball. Sort that part of his game out and he will be very good. He's not frightened at running at people, much in the same way as Tadic, but he is quicker. As I say, I like him. He is of course not the finished article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 I like him. He's good. But he does seem to often get to the corner of the penalty box and then lose direction, faff around without giving a killer ball. Sort that part of his game out and he will be very good. He's not frightened at running at people, much in the same way as Tadic, but he is quicker. As I say, I like him. He is of course not the finished article. I was talking to a friend last night about how decent Wanyama is in the Spurs team, and perhaps as he is now around better players who do something when he passes to them it helps and the same will go for Redmond once weve got our big profit on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 I was talking to a friend last night about how decent Wanyama is in the Spurs team, and perhaps as he is now around better players who do something when he passes to them it helps and the same will go for Redmond once weve got our big profit on him Yep players are always better when they`ve gone... course they are.. Redmond is s h ite so we wont get anything for him but that`s what you want isnt it, crap players no one wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneysaint17 Posted 6 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2017 He clearly has potential, but his form has been poor at best and he still needs to add final product to his game to be a top 10 PL player. When he signed Merson also referred to him as the "signing of the summer" so obviously has some sort of weird fascination with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Yep players are always better when they`ve gone... course they are.. Redmond is s h ite so we wont get anything for him but that`s what you want isnt it, crap players no one wants well as we keep selling our best players eventually thats what we will get. The players are not better when they are gone but have better around them, funnily enough a lot of the good players belonged to us in the first place. You go on defending the club selling the jewels with no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 well as we keep selling our best players eventually thats what we will get. The players are not better when they are gone but have better around them, funnily enough a lot of the good players belonged to us in the first place. You go on defending the club selling the jewels with no questions asked. I`m not, i just understand how it is unlike you it seems.. I don`t like to see good players leave at all but understand good players often want to move on to bigger things but as i said before, lets get poor players in and then no one will want them, that will do the trick wont it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 shhhhhhhh dont say anything - Liverpool might not have actually watched him play either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 lets get poor players in and then no one will want them, that will do the trick wont it? its worked with the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Well perhaps people from the outside looking in have not such a negative view of him. I think we are a better side with him in the team Exactly Since the start of the season MOTD have done 2 pieces on him, where their pundits have highlighted what a good player he is. Hector Bellerin has named him as one of his most difficult opponents , putting him in his side alongside Sterling, Courtino & Costa . Yet the experts on here claim he's not even premiership standard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Exactly Since the start of the season MOTD have done 2 pieces on him, where their pundits have highlighted what a good player he is. Hector Bellerin has named him as one of his most difficult opponents , putting him in his side alongside Sterling, Courtino & Costa . Yet the experts on here claim he's not even premiership standard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We have experts on here? please enlighten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 I knew Merson liked a drink, but it's sad to hear he is is addicted to LSD these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 its worked with the manager Players mate, players ! do keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Redmond is decent. The reason people complain about him is that he's still raw, and he gets on the ball a hell of a lot, and can make more mistakes. But he is also very direct, good at running at players, takes multiple players away etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 There are many criticisms to be had of Redmond but his work rate is incredibly high and he never gives up on the field. If he works that hard on the training ground on improving his ability then he'll be a top player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Posted this on the Redmond and saints thread yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteCampbell Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Redmond has been nowhere near as bad as some make out on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 If Juanmi had half a season like Redmond has , there wouldn't have been any criticism of him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 He needs to sober up. :lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 We have lots of players with potential at the moment. Results will improve if some of them start to fulfil it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Redmond has been nowhere near as bad as some make out on here. He's been poor, not endearing himself to the fans either by constantly having a go at others during games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 We have lots of players with potential at the moment. Results will improve if some of them start to fulfil it. Very true mate, this can be said for most teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 I like him. He's good. But he does seem to often get to the corner of the penalty box and then lose direction, faff around without giving a killer ball. Sort that part of his game out and he will be very good. He's not frightened at running at people, much in the same way as Tadic, but he is quicker. As I say, I like him. He is of course not the finished article. I see what you're saying, but unfortunately the part of his game you're highlighting is also the most important & difficult to improve. If hard work was enough to to turn you into a creative, incisive passer then presumably there'd be a lot more of them around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 He's been poor, not endearing himself to the fans either by constantly having a go at others during games.we complain that players don't have passion and then when they show it ,that is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 6 January, 2017 Share Posted 6 January, 2017 Yep players are always better when they`ve gone... course they are.. Redmond is s h ite so we wont get anything for him but that`s what you want isnt it, crap players no one wants This shows what stonking hypocrites fans are when they whine about about players choosing to leave the club. They can slag off players all they want if they don't think they're any good but they'll scream like a big girly if a players they rate chooses to leave. Loyalty should be a 2 way street. A player having a hard time should expect support unless they clearly have no interest. That cannot be said about Redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 Does he rate Steve De Ridder too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 Redmond will score the winning goal(s) today against Norwich; then you will all love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 Nowhere near the finished article, but why should he be at 21/22? Redmond or Andros ****ing Townsend. I know which one I'd rather have. People have enormous expectations of our young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 Redmond is decent. The reason people complain about him is that he's still raw, and he gets on the ball a hell of a lot, and can make more mistakes. But he is also very direct, good at running at players, takes multiple players away etc. There are many criticisms to be had of Redmond but his work rate is incredibly high and he never gives up on the field. If he works that hard on the training ground on improving his ability then he'll be a top player for us. Redmond has been nowhere near as bad as some make out on here. we complain that players don't have passion and then when they show it ,that is bad. Nowhere near the finished article, but why should he be at 21/22? Redmond or Andros ****ing Townsend. I know which one I'd rather have. People have enormous expectations of our young players. Glad I'm not the only one that see this for what it is. Too many knee jerks on here with no patience or understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 we complain that players don't have passion and then when they show it ,that is bad. It's not passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 Fancy him to have a strong end to the season myself. Look forward to reminding you all of that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 It's not passion.what is it then? It is a burning will to win IMO. Not everybody is a hold it back and say nothing individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 January, 2017 Share Posted 7 January, 2017 Lots of talent and can make things happen, but at the moment he is struggling. One issues is that he has no left foot at all, so when played left wing he constantly stops and comes inside when he reaches the byeline. Opponents have spotted this and his unwillingness to use his swinger ever to keep fullbacks honest means they are there before he is when he does come inside. He seems to be the whipping boy. Things are not going well, but it's not all his fault. It's not as though Tadic or Long have pulled any trees up either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteCampbell Posted 8 January, 2017 Share Posted 8 January, 2017 Lots of talent and can make things happen, but at the moment he is struggling. One issues is that he has no left foot at all, so when played left wing he constantly stops and comes inside when he reaches the byeline. Opponents have spotted this and his unwillingness to use his swinger ever to keep fullbacks honest means they are there before he is when he does come inside. He seems to be the whipping boy. Things are not going well, but it's not all his fault. It's not as though Tadic or Long have pulled any trees up either. Yeh great measured post. I didn't see the game (first one I've missed this season) but I heard he looked good when he came on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneysaint17 Posted 8 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2017 The fact that many Saints fans still believe him to be Mane's replacement hasn't helped. In reality, he's replaced Juanmi as our "young attacking midfielder with potential" so in comparison, he's a huge upgrade. Shame that the real Mane replacement has gone off to the AFCON, just started to look like he was getting the pace of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 January, 2017 Share Posted 8 January, 2017 The fact that many Saints fans still believe him to be Mane's replacement hasn't helped. In reality, he's replaced Juanmi as our "young attacking midfielder with potential" so in comparison, he's a huge upgrade. Shame that the real Mane replacement has gone off to the AFCON, just started to look like he was getting the pace of the league. While you are correct, the comparison is inevitable. On one level he is Mane's replacement as he has become our main source of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 8 January, 2017 Share Posted 8 January, 2017 The fact that many Saints fans still believe him to be Mane's replacement hasn't helped. In reality, he's replaced Juanmi as our "young attacking midfielder with potential" so in comparison, he's a huge upgrade. Shame that the real Mane replacement has gone off to the AFCON, just started to look like he was getting the pace of the league. Except that Redmond has become a regular starter with a pivotal attacking role and a striker tag flung round his neck - Juanmi rarely saw the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneysaint17 Posted 8 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2017 Except that Redmond has become a regular starter with a pivotal attacking role and a striker tag flung round his neck - Juanmi rarely saw the light of day. Think you've missed my point slightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 8 January, 2017 Share Posted 8 January, 2017 Redmond is the best young player because he played more premier league games than any other young player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 January, 2017 Share Posted 8 January, 2017 Is Redmond even a young player anymore? Hes 23 in a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 9 January, 2017 Share Posted 9 January, 2017 Is Redmond even a young player anymore? Hes 23 in a few weeks Yep, ancient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 January, 2017 Share Posted 9 January, 2017 Is he better than the 22yo Raheem Sterling? Or the 20yo Dele Alli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 9 January, 2017 Share Posted 9 January, 2017 Is he better than the 22yo Raheem Sterling? Or the 20yo Dele Alli? I think he is talking about the best summer signing for a young player because clearly you are right in what you are saying Best youngster: Nathan Redmond (Southampton) He's another great signing. He's done great at Southampton and when he's not in the team they're a different side, which we saw when he was suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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