Heisenberg Posted 1 April, 2017 Share Posted 1 April, 2017 Have West Ham won a game already since Fonte joined? They beat us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 1 April, 2017 Share Posted 1 April, 2017 Right. I prefer to forget that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 1 April, 2017 Share Posted 1 April, 2017 WHU have same points as us. We had Europe and a cup final. That is a shocking comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 1 April, 2017 Share Posted 1 April, 2017 We had Europe and a cup final. That is a shocking comparison. WHU had Europe too. We played 2 more European games than WHU. They got to the quarter final of FA cup. So we're talking about 5 games more over 8 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 1 April, 2017 Share Posted 1 April, 2017 They beat us Didn't realise they'd played Portsmouth this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugalsaint Posted 4 April, 2017 Share Posted 4 April, 2017 He made a huge mistake, I am positive he must know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 April, 2017 Share Posted 4 April, 2017 He made a huge mistake, I am positive he must know that. No clean sheets since he joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 4 April, 2017 Share Posted 4 April, 2017 All he had to do was retire here and he would have gone down as one of the club greats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 4 April, 2017 Share Posted 4 April, 2017 He went for the bigger money and he's got it, so he's probably happy. It's hard to live on only £60.000 a week, poor fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 5 April, 2017 Share Posted 5 April, 2017 "With the way that West Ham is going we can only look to be challenging in the top eight. I told the manager we want to win and we want to win trophies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 5 April, 2017 Share Posted 5 April, 2017 He went for the bigger money and he's got it, so he's probably happy. It's hard to live on only £60.000 a week, poor fellow. You're being a bit harsh there. He has at least twenty years he needs to make the pittance that footballers earn last. Blokes practically destitute. I know that he's moved on but after the fantastic service he has given Saints the least we can do is donate the gate income for the rest season. Poor soul. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 April, 2017 Share Posted 5 April, 2017 You're being a bit harsh there. He has at least twenty years he needs to make the pittance that footballers earn last. Blokes practically destitute. I know that he's moved on but after the fantastic service he has given Saints the least we can do is donate the gate income for the rest season. Poor soul. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk Exactly Fonte has to spend 50 years being retired not like us lucky bastards who get to keep earning in to our late sixties and people think PL footballers have it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-ham-facing-string-summer-10228154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 Exactly Fonte has to spend 50 years being retired not like us lucky bastards who get to keep earning in to our late sixties and people think PL footballers have it easy. I realise that these posts are tongue in cheek (or at least I hope so) but... Let's say he earns an average of $40,000 a week for 10 years. It would take over 400 years for someone earning £50,000 a year to earn that much money. Obviously doesn't take tax into account but still! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 I realise that these posts are tongue in cheek (or at least I hope so) but... Let's say he earns an average of $40' date='000 a week for 10 years. It would take over 400 years for someone earning £50,000 a year to earn that much money. Obviously doesn't take tax into account but still![/quote'] Sickening when it's put like that. Makes it all the more disgusting when they act like brats to get more. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 Exactly Fonte has to spend 50 years being retired not like us lucky bastards who get to keep earning in to our late sixties and people think PL footballers have it easy. You should have been a professional footballer. Somebody gave you some very bad advice when you were a kid. Had you not studied hard to do "something worthwhile" with your life you too could have had an aimless existence kicking a ball around in the park as soon as school was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandy_Top_89 Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 Has anyone else noticed that all the talk of dressing room unrest against Puel died the second Fonte left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 I recently read an article that a very significant % of premier league players go bankrupt within a few years of retiring. This article is a couple of years old, but suggests the same thing - upto 40%: http://www.mindthemoney.co.uk/how-do-premier-league-footballers-go-bankrupt/ If I can be bothered I'll search for the one I read this week (which could have been a rehash of the older article). I find it astonishing that so many of them can get through so much cash in such a short time. Presumably their financial advisors have done well out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 Has anyone else noticed that all the talk of dressing room unrest against Puel died the second Fonte left... Don't worry next time we lose a game someone will come out with it on here. The players body language will be sited "They don't look happy, Puel has clearly lost the dressing room, blah blah blah" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 The report that Pulis has paid the £3.77m to Crystal Palace that the High Court decided he wasn't entitled to, plus something like £2m in legal cost, suggests that the fans handing over their money to the football clubs probably don't appreciate just how far the people involved in football have become from those of us who follow the game. The players are continuing to pull up the ladder behind them, clearly unconcerned that the money they stuff in their bank accounts comes from hardworking ordinary people. I've never paid a Sky or BT subscription but I do pay the overpriced cost for admission to matches which is out of all proportion to what was charged 20 or 30 years ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 Don't worry next time we lose a game someone will come out with it on here. The players body language will be sited "They don't look happy, Puel has clearly lost the dressing room, blah blah blah" Bertrand had Puel by the throat at the training ground you know. It was on a completely made up football rumours website but it confirms my existing prejudices so I will be swearing blind that it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 I recently read an article that a very significant % of premier league players go bankrupt within a few years of retiring. This article is a couple of years old, but suggests the same thing - upto 40%: http://www.mindthemoney.co.uk/how-do-premier-league-footballers-go-bankrupt/ If I can be bothered I'll search for the one I read this week (which could have been a rehash of the older article). I find it astonishing that so many of them can get through so much cash in such a short time. Presumably their financial advisors have done well out of them. Because they're f*cking stupid in what they spend it on. Should be investing in property and then whatever happens with your football earnings, you have places to live and rent from the others coming in to live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 I think the bottom line is, with a little bit of hindsight (and pushing fans emotions aside), the club (big bad Les) were actually spot on in their decision to let Fonte go. Given the form he's shown at his new club, I'm not so sure that he is a big miss for us. Don't get me wrong, he was a great player for us, but the fact remains (and always will) no player is bigger than the club. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 I think the bottom line is, with a little bit of hindsight (and pushing fans emotions aside), the club (big bad Les) were actually spot on in their decision to let Fonte go. Given the form he's shown at his new club, I'm not so sure that he is a big miss for us. Don't get me wrong, he was a great player for us, but the fact remains (and always will) no player is bigger than the club. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk We said the same about Lovren and lallana when they didn't adapt immediately to the new club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 We said the same about Lovren and lallana when they didn't adapt immediately to the new club Indeed, but this looks the full Lambert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 We said the same about Lovren and lallana when they didn't adapt immediately to the new club It's not about adapting, the form might return, although years are not on his side. It's about the money, we were (rightly in my opinion) not willing to meet what he wanted, and therfore opted to let him leave. And for the money we got, let's face it, whether you love Les or not, good business really. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 Indeed, but this looks the full Lambert! Exactly, there are up and coming players, and there are those looking at the twilight of their careers. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 It's not about adapting, the form might return, although years are not on his side. It's about the money, we were (rightly in my opinion) not willing to meet what he wanted, and therfore opted to let him leave. And for the money we got, let's face it, whether you love Les or not, good business really. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk I think we would have had a bigger chance of winning the cupfinal if Fonte was still here. It was a risky business to not replace him and could have cost us more than we got. I don't get how fans thinks it brilliant business to let go of an established PL center back in the middle of the season with an upcoming cup final. 8 millions don't get you much in todays market, it will get you a Gardos or Clasie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 We said the same about Lovren and lallana when they didn't adapt immediately to the new club Lovren is still pretty crap for 25million pounds tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 We said the same about Lovren and lallana when they didn't adapt immediately to the new club Lovern is still crap now TBF and unlike Lallana Fonte hardly has time on his side to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 (edited) I think we would have had a bigger chance of winning the cupfinal if Fonte was still here. It was a risky business to not replace him and could have cost us more than we got. I don't get how fans thinks it brilliant business to let go of an established PL center back in the middle of the season with an upcoming cup final. 8 millions don't get you much in todays market, it will get you a Gardos or Clasie. For the legs left on him, 8 million for Fonte was good business. We may have had a slightly better chance in the cup final, who knows, (VVD was our big loss) but nobody is going to agree to a new contract package based on what our chances are going to be in a single game, cup final or not. He may be an established centre back but that's not to say that his form wasn't on the wane and he overvalued himself. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Edited 15 April, 2017 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatball Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 I think we would have had a bigger chance of winning the cupfinal if Fonte was still here. It was a risky business to not replace him and could have cost us more than we got. I don't get how fans thinks it brilliant business to let go of an established PL center back in the middle of the season with an upcoming cup final. 8 millions don't get you much in todays market, it will get you a Gardos or Clasie. It's not about whether it was good business or not, it's about whether it was good for the club, and more importantly, the first team. When someone is poisoning the moral of the team, you find a way to let them go and make the best out of it possible. Fonte has done well for us over the years, but make no mistake, the only reason that he stayed with us as long as he did, was not out of loyalty, it was simply because no one showed an interest in him until the summer just gone. Had anyone "bigger" than Saints come in for him, do not for a second think that he would have not wanted to leave. Fonte is gone, it was the correct thing to happen for all parties. We can now look forward to bloody a terrific prospect in Jack Stephens, and/or buying a new CB in the summer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 15 April, 2017 Share Posted 15 April, 2017 I think we would have had a bigger chance of winning the cupfinal if Fonte was still here. It was a risky business to not replace him and could have cost us more than we got. I don't get how fans thinks it brilliant business to let go of an established PL center back in the middle of the season with an upcoming cup final. 8 millions don't get you much in todays market, it will get you a Gardos or Clasie. Selling him was the right thing to do, not replacing him adequately was the wrong thing to do, and Reed deserves to take the flack for that in the post mortem regardless of his excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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