Andy Durman Posted 3 January, 2017 Share Posted 3 January, 2017 In principle I like to use five lines, excluding the goalkeeper: the back 4, a central midfielder playing from the back, 2 wide midfielders outside him pushing forward, one striker playing deep or up front and 2 attackers on the wings. Does that sound similar to the philosophy of anyone we know? Johan Cruyff liked an attacking brand of football, however in order to attack you have to defend by pushing forward and putting pressure on the ball. To create as many lines as you can. In my opinion we aren't far away from everything clicking. A few players don't fit the system or have struggled to adapt to the system. We need to defend higher, but loss of possession in dangerous areas will expose us. Allow Puel the time to solve the problems and keep the faith. Imagine a new mountain bike, it takes time to adjust to the bike and the you ride the more in tune you become, but then the bike needs a service. To adjust the loose chain, breaks... we have reached this moment. Keep the faith good times are around the corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 3 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2017 Wish I could adjust my spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 January, 2017 Share Posted 3 January, 2017 In principle I like to use five lines, excluding the goalkeeper: the back 4, a central midfielder playing from the back, 2 wide midfielders outside him pushing forward, one striker playing deep or up front and 2 attackers on the wings. Does that sound similar to the philosophy of anyone we know? Johan Cruyff liked an attacking brand of football, however in order to attack you have to defend by pushing forward and putting pressure on the ball. To create as many lines as you can. In my opinion we aren't far away from everything clicking. A few players don't fit the system or have struggled to adapt to the system. We need to defend higher, but loss of possession in dangerous areas will expose us. Allow Puel the time to solve the problems and keep the faith. Imagine a new mountain bike, it takes time to adjust to the bike and the you ride the more in tune you become, but then the bike needs a service. To adjust the loose chain, breaks... we have reached this moment. Keep the faith good times are around the corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 3 January, 2017 Share Posted 3 January, 2017 In principle I like to use five lines, excluding the goalkeeper: the back 4, a central midfielder playing from the back, 2 wide midfielders outside him pushing forward, one striker playing deep or up front and 2 attackers on the wings. Does that sound similar to the philosophy of anyone we know? Johan Cruyff liked an attacking brand of football, however in order to attack you have to defend by pushing forward and putting pressure on the ball. To create as many lines as you can. In my opinion we aren't far away from everything clicking. A few players don't fit the system or have struggled to adapt to the system. We need to defend higher, but loss of possession in dangerous areas will expose us. Allow Puel the time to solve the problems and keep the faith. Imagine a new mountain bike, it takes time to adjust to the bike and the you ride the more in tune you become, but then the bike needs a service. To adjust the loose chain, breaks... we have reached this moment. Keep the faith good times are around the corner! Not unless Puel fundamentally changes the way he asks our midfield to play. He doesn't deploy midfield runners or encourage them to push forward. He expects the front three to do the attacking and the midfield to contain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 3 January, 2017 Share Posted 3 January, 2017 Lol with respect if Puel ever has the players of the quality that Cruyff had at his disposal he will be able to play any formation including 2-0-8 and still be competitive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 Cheers bud that was super interesting, Cruyff is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 We don't set up anything like a Cruyff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 We don't set up anything like a Cruyff team. Really how about the back 4 Soares Fonte VVD Bertrand a central midfielder playing from the back Romeu 2 wide midfielders outside him pushing forward Davis Claisie One striker playing deep or up front Jrod 2 attackers on the wings Redmond Boufal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 We don't set up anything like a Cruyff team. We set up, in terms of basic formation, exactly the way described in the opening sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 We set up, in terms of basic formation, exactly the way described in the opening sentence. do does half of world football I would guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 do does half of world football I would guess That's not true at all. A lot of teams don't try to set up with five lines, as described. Instead of making banal guesses, try engaging your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 That's not true at all. A lot of teams don't try to set up with five lines, as described. Instead of making banal guesses, try engaging your brain. I read the opening sentence (as you suggested) a bank of 4 defenders, a holding midfielder, play from the back, 2 central midfielders next to him, a striker moving around and two wide attackers. yep, definitely not a popular set up at all. Just us (and Cryuff's Ajax)...that play a 433 with one holding midfielder that plays out from the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 Not unless Puel fundamentally changes the way he asks our midfield to play. He doesn't deploy midfield runners or encourage them to push forward. He expects the front three to do the attacking and the midfield to contain. Exactly. Vs west brom the other day, we had the ball on the by line. all players on the field in the west brom half, they were all within 30yards of their goal bar the striker.... and we had no one in the box. Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 I thought this was a new manager thread. I do know he is no longer walking this earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 That's not true at all. A lot of teams don't try to set up with five lines, as described. Instead of making banal guesses, try engaging your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeham_69 Posted 4 January, 2017 Share Posted 4 January, 2017 who would be a better manager, CP or the decomposing corpse of a recently deceased legend? (Poll please mods) Cheers for the lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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