Matthew Le God Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Some Saints fans complain when we sell players, but we sign players who are current 1st choices for other clubs. They forget the football transfer market has a pecking order, which evolves a little over the years but it is hard to compete with the elite at the top who have current incomes 2x, 3x or 4x+ more than Saints. Player bought for Saints current 2016/17 Premier League squad... 1st choice at previous club at time they left Forster - Celtic Cedric - Sporting Lisbon Maya Yoshida - VVV Venlo Clasie - Feyenoord Gardos - Steaua Bucharest Fonte- Crystal Palace Long - Hull City Davis - Rangers Rodriguez - Burnley Austin - QPR Tadic - FC Twente van Dijk - Celtic Boufal - Lille Redmond - Norwich City Not 1st choice at previous club at time they left McCarthy - Crystal Palace Romeu - Chelsea Martina - FC Twente Bertrand - Chelsea Hojbjerg - Bayern Munich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 I am mighty relieved to find out we are above VVV Venlo in the footballing world pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 (edited) Some Saints fans complain when we sell players, but we sign players who are current 1st choices for other clubs. They forget the football transfer market has a pecking order, which evolves a little over the years but it is hard to compete with the elite at the top who have current incomes 2x, 3x or 4x+ more than Saints. Player bought for Saints current 2016/17 Premier League squad... 1st choice at previous club at time they left Forster - Celtic Cedric - Sporting Lisbon Maya Yoshida - VVV Venlo Clasie - Feyenoord Gardos - Steaua Bucharest Fonte- Crystal Palace Long - Hull City Davis - Rangers Rodriguez - Burnley Austin - QPR Tadic - FC Twente van Dijk - Celtic Boufal - Lille Redmond - Norwich City Not 1st choice at previous club at time they left McCarthy - Crystal Palace Romeu - Chelsea Martina - FC Twente Bertrand - Chelsea Hojbjerg - Bayern Munich No, we complain that we sell on what appears to be a relatively higher basis to our peers and it hinders the development of our squad. Selling players is a reality but it often feels like we sell too many too fast when we do not have a financial need to (unlike many of the clubs you have listed who have to or had to sell to balance the books). Edited 22 December, 2016 by farawaysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Yes we do to other clubs what we have done to us, but a lot of them were hardly the 'star' player of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Not 1st choice at previous club at time they left McCarthy - Crystal Palace Romeu - Chelsea Martina - FC Twente Bertrand - Chelsea Hojbjerg - Bayern Munich Might argue that Romeu, Bertrand and Hojbjerg were first choice for the teams they played for before joining us, i.e. VfB Stuttgart, Villa and Schalke. Leaves only Martina as an outfield player that was not first choice, says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuz Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 1st choice at previous club at time they left Forster - Celtic Cedric - Sporting Lisbon Maya Yoshida - VVV Venlo Clasie - Feyenoord Gardos - Steaua Bucharest Fonte- Crystal Palace Long - Hull City Davis - Rangers Rodriguez - Burnley Austin - QPR Tadic - FC Twente van Dijk - Celtic Boufal - Lille Redmond - Norwich City Not 1st choice at previous club at time they left McCarthy - Crystal Palace Romeu - Chelsea Martina - FC Twente Bertrand - Chelsea Hojbjerg - Bayern Munich The point is surely that, of those we signed that were first choices at other clubs, only one (Long) was a playing in the same division as us at the time...and we paid a significant premium to procure him. My issue is not necessarily that we sell players - we always have - it is that too many players have been sold to competitors in the same league. I accept that you cannot stop players wanting to go to Manchester United or City but it is pretty unprecedented for a club to sell five players over the course of three summers to one club in the same division. Still it has not worked out too badly so far I guess. I would be much happier to sell VVD to PSG, Barca or Real than United, City or Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 The point is surely that, of those we signed that were first choices at other clubs, only one (Long) was a playing in the same division as us at the time...and we paid a significant premium to procure him. My issue is not necessarily that we sell players - we always have - it is that too many players have been sold to competitors in the same league. I accept that you cannot stop players wanting to go to Manchester United or City but it is pretty unprecedented for a club to sell five players over the course of three summers to one club in the same division. Still it has not worked out too badly so far I guess. I would be much happier to sell VVD to PSG, Barca or Real than United, City or Chelsea. Players generally want to stay in the PL were the cash is. Other clubs that can play PL sized wages are few and far between. I'm sure any of those players that went to Liverpool would have happily signed for Real or Bayern if the offer was there but it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't complain if we did another Celtic raid for Simunovic from our feeder club :-) Edited 22 December, 2016 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 I wouldn't complain if we did another Celtic raid for Simunovic from our feeder club :-) Should we be stealing Celtic's scouting team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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