stknowle Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 He was absolute dire tonight, but to the 'fans' who were against him around me - absolute disgrace, go and find another team to support. Spent the entire match calling for Hapoel players to stamp on him so he's injured, racial gestures and the like. There's no denying he was dross tonight, but our fans take on a whole new level of ****tardness sometimes. If they were being racist that is an absolute fecking disgrace. You should have reported them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Thought he worked hard tonight. No complaints from me. Generally just think the damage was done in earlier games leaving us looking jittery tonight. Looked pretty obvious what would happen. I'm just pleased we made the group stage - at least we had 6 games to 'enjoy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 A player who has mostly been associated with relegation during his career. There's probably a good reason for that, and we shouldn't have signed him. Just hope his form with relegation doesn't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 There's no defending him atm. He is in a poor run of form and has put in some awful performances. What I will say though, is that it doesn't help with the negative tactics that Puel occasionally has us playing. He got forward a couple of times and there was nobody with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 The irony about Redmond is... Whilst he never looked great as a striker, he looks better there than he does as a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 The irony about Redmond is... Whilst he never looked great as a striker, he looks better there than he does as a winger. Agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 This can't be right? WhoScored have him as our MOTM. Probably had the most touches, doesn't accommodate for all the indecision and slowing down of play! Probably a 3.5/10 performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 The bloke is a prime example of a player who isn't as good as he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 8 December, 2016 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2016 What a great gift from "Uncle Les" this **** is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 He was absolutely horrendous tonight. Worst player on the pitch and its a joke that he gets as much game time as he does. It's a damming indictment of our transfer policy from the summer. Why we never brought another attacker in I will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 I've been pretty neutral about Redmond, with the exception of insisting he isn't the out and out striker Puel thinks he is. But I was finished with him tonight when, fairly early in the first half he beat two defenders for pace then ****ed up. Now that in itself was ok, it happens, but he had the bloody nerve to turn round and blame a team mate for his own error. It was fkin unbelievable. I just wonder what ****s like him who blame anyone and everyone else does for team moral ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 The bloke is a prime example of a player who isn't as good as he thinks he is. Absolutely. ****** moaning at other players like he never puts a foot wrong when in fact he rarely puts one right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 I had us to win 3 nil Redmond first scorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Absolutely. ****** moaning at other players like he never puts a foot wrong when in fact he rarely puts one right. Giving Bertrand a right shouting and arm waving in the first half Bertrand just turned round and walked off haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Giving Bertrand a right shouting and arm waving in the first half Bertrand just turned round and walked off haha As others have said, what can it do for team morale if a player keeps ****ing up, keeps getting picked, and keeps moaning at others for "****ing up". Very little I would suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 He needs taking out for a few weeks as his confidence is very low. But there is some talent there and we can improve him. I'm not sure entirely why he is seen as the Mane replacement as opposed to Boufal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 This can't be right? WhoScored have him as our MOTM. Football will die a death by opta stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 As others have said, what can it do for team morale if a player keeps ****ing up, keeps getting picked, and keeps moaning at others for "****ing up". Very little I would suspect. That's the bit I don't like about him - Pelle used to bollock out his team-mates a bit, but Redmond's taken it to another level. He also seemed to get caught up in a slanging match with the BS Manager. I called him mediocre a few weeks back and copped a spray for it, but he really is....along with Long and Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Just a Lidl Andros Townsend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlySaint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 (edited) 4 key passes and 3 accurate crosses is high in one game. Hence MOtM statistically More importantly no assists or goals in 9 in all comps for him. That was Tadic's first contribution ifor 9 games too (assist tonight) It's a bitter pill and lesson learnt for those that decided to disrespect and write off Hapoel before we played them the first time around I'm afraid. . Edited 9 December, 2016 by FriendlySaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 He was awful. The replacements for mane look poor so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 He was absolute dire tonight, but to the 'fans' who were against him around me - absolute disgrace, go and find another team to support. Spent the entire match calling for Hapoel players to stamp on him so he's injured, racial gestures and the like. There's no denying he was dross tonight, but our fans take on a whole new level of ****tardness sometimes. Please report to the authorities, absolutely disgusting behaviour and has no place in Football and at Saints. http://www.kickitout.org/get-involved/report-it/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 I mentioned this before about Redmond, A Norwich supporting friend summed him up (about 2 months ago) from when he was at Norwich, yes he can be quick and dribble with the ball on his own, but at the end of the day the one thing you will never be able to train out of him is the fact that he is thick, he will take the ball to the box and unless there is a gaping big hole to run into he does not know what to do, his brain can't process the environment he has suddenly found himself in. As this season has progressed with him in the team, the more that observation from a fan in his previous life has rung true. Tonight he actually beat the defence, shocked himself and trod on the ball putting him back where he started having to beat the defender, first half on his toes down the pitch he's at the box but you could see he had no idea what to do next, and effing ambling out of attack (admiring his last little run) as the ball is obviously not going to go out of play as Bertie is screaming at him that just about summed him up. Liverpool pay us £34m for a foreign electric unpredictable predator, we pretty much replace him with an ENGLISH (emphasised as their ticket priced is influenced by nationality) player for £10m, who ultimately is becoming very predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Awful performance. **** poor player. Its like we are playing with 10 men. Too lightweight, no footballing brain, switches off, gives the ball away cheaply, the list of his fshults goes on and on. Sadly our manager fails to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Agree with Vectis. Neither a winger nor a striker. Beats a player, then turns back to try and beat him again, rather than push on to the penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 appears to be un droppable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Just a Lidl Andros Townsend. This. And they cost the same money. He's a very very very limited footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Just a nothing player at the moment. Have tried giving him the benefit of the doubt, but his inadequacies and lack of footballing brain mean he is a major part of the fact we are struggling to create and score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepill Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Fabrice Fernandes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Just a nothing player at the moment. Have tried giving him the benefit of the doubt, but his inadequacies and lack of footballing brain mean he is a major part of the fact we are struggling to create and score goals. That sums it up totally. A sub-standard Juanmi (sp?) replacement. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Fabrice Fernandes Was better than Redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Agree with JBS "his brain can't process the environment he has suddenly found himself in". We have been saying exactly the same. He just doesn't seem to have the football brain to match his other abilities. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Agree with JBS "his brain can't process the environment he has suddenly found himself in". We have been saying exactly the same. He just doesn't seem to have the football brain to match his other abilities. Unfortunately. Spot on. His decision making ability is poor at key moments in play. He seems too indecisive and this hinders his overall contribution and affects his confidence. He has the ability to go past players but that appears to be the only really solid part of his play. He certainly has the ability to add more to his game, but it seems that unless he is more focused at crucial times, he will not improve a great deal and that has to be a concern for the club. It also seems more prevalent in English players than Overseas players. Compare JWP's key decisions against Hojbjerg's and it seems to me that Pierre is more effective more of the time. Obviously I've no data to back this up and it's only what I've witnessed from the stands, but i find it noticeable. Maybe a difference in youth training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adkins' Bus Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 He is in a very bad patch of form and I actually think this pretty much coincides with him being played as more of an out and out winger. When the ball is given to him in a wide position in space, he just doesn't seem to know what to do. Too much time to think, too many different options for him to process. I think he looks better in a central position where he has less time on the ball and has to play on instinct a bit more. That's not to say I would play him as a striker, but perhaps behind one. We need to figure out what we are doing with him because he is really hampering us at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 I mentioned this before about Redmond, A Norwich supporting friend summed him up (about 2 months ago) from when he was at Norwich, yes he can be quick and dribble with the ball on his own, but at the end of the day the one thing you will never be able to train out of him is the fact that he is thick, he will take the ball to the box and unless there is a gaping big hole to run into he does not know what to do, his brain can't process the environment he has suddenly found himself in. As this season has progressed with him in the team, the more that observation from a fan in his previous life has rung true. Tonight he actually beat the defence, shocked himself and trod on the ball putting him back where he started having to beat the defender, first half on his toes down the pitch he's at the box but you could see he had no idea what to do next, and effing ambling out of attack (admiring his last little run) as the ball is obviously not going to go out of play as Bertie is screaming at him that just about summed him up. Liverpool pay us £34m for a foreign electric unpredictable predator, we pretty much replace him with an ENGLISH (emphasised as their ticket priced is influenced by nationality) player for £10m, who ultimately is becoming very predictable. I'm not one for singling out players normally but that BIB sums up last night's performance perfectly. He seems to have the technical ability, but generally. and particularly last, doesn't seem to have the mental ability needed to be a good team player. Last night he slowed it down when a quick pass was needed, went on runs when a short pass was required, tried to shoot when others were better positioned and fails to spot the obvious attacking pass until at least2 or 3 seconds after the opposition defenders have not only spotted it but run into positions to prevent it. Time for an early Xmas break for him I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Was better than Redmond. Fernandes was in a different league to Redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Liverpool pay us £34m for a foreign electric unpredictable predator, we pretty much replace him with an ENGLISH (emphasised as their ticket priced is influenced by nationality) player for £10m, who ultimately is becoming very predictable. Can everybody please drop this fallacy that Redmond was Mane's replacement? Boufal was Mane's replacement - Redmond was bought to replace Juanmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Agree with JBS "his brain can't process the environment he has suddenly found himself in". We have been saying exactly the same. He just doesn't seem to have the football brain to match his other abilities. Unfortunately. There was one moment in the first half last night where he had used a bit of skill to squeeze between two defenders. All he had to do was look up and run with the ball and he would have been clean through to a 1-on-1 with the keeper. But instead he just froze, like a rabbit in headlights, and allowed the defenders to re-group and block him off again. I fear that this isn't something that can be coached out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Thought he played well last night with the exception of his final ball, which was dismal. But you could say the same for Cedric and Bertrand's crossing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Drop him. He's young with a lot to learn still. Get him playing with the youth squad and get the goals/his confidence back. We can't afford to have him as our main attacking player at the moment, it's costing us games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 I really wanted him to do well here but after a reasonable start he's just faded badly. At one point last night in the first half he picked the ball up in our half of the pitch and started running, and Romeu (of all people) was running clear. A more intelligent player would have played Romeu in for a brilliant chance, but he just kept running to the byline. In the end he set Romeu up for a header but it was an awful assist attempt. I hope he gets better, but at the moment he's little more than an impact sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 I wouldn't hesitate at all to play McQueen instead of Redmond. In fact I'm beyond surprised that hasn't been happening. Redmond offers nothing. He may come good in time with coaching but right now he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting eleven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Agree with Vectis. Neither a winger nor a striker. Beats a player, then turns back to try and beat him again, rather than push on to the penalty area. Because he can't use his left foot. At all. And he doesn't actually appear to have much pace either. Must be so easy to defend against when he's playing as a Left Winger - just show him down the line, because he sure as heck doesn't want to go down there! If he could actually complete an inventive pass effectively these things could maybe be forgiven, but he failed to get those right too. Anything more than a 10 yard pass to feet seems beyond him - so often there was a ball into the channels for someone to run on to, and he failed to execute it. He doesn't make good enough off the ball runs either. The crux of it is that he should be the sort of player who does out-of-the-ordinary things, yet he probably plays safer than anyone else in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 In his defence, he was the one player on the pitch last night who Beer'Sheva were worried about in terms of his pace.. What they did however was crowd him with 2 or sometimes 3 players closing him down and he found no options to help him... Bertrand being a main culprit.. He has the pace but he does not have a trick or two to add to that, therefore he ends up running down blind alleys or going backwards to keep possession... I hope the lad comes good, he was by no means the worst player on the pitch last night for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Don't have problems with him, it's not like he doesnt try, he just lacks quality, not his fault. He's not good enough yet to be first choice for a Premier League side, which is why he spent a lot of last year on the bench for Norwich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo_ARG Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Haven't seen anything on him, only a good acceleration to take on a man. That's nearly all he brings. No football IQ, no link-up play, poor finishing, you name it. Every manager seems to have his favourite player. Puel bet on this lad and he failed. Move on, Claude! He seems to rotate every position, but Redmond always starts. That's baffling since he has done nothing to deserve it. It's time to see Tadic and Boufal together, now that they are both healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 In his defence, he was the one player on the pitch last night who Beer'Sheva were worried about in terms of his pace.. What they did however was crowd him with 2 or sometimes 3 players closing him down and he found no options to help him... Bertrand being a main culprit.. He has the pace but he does not have a trick or two to add to that, therefore he ends up running down blind alleys or going backwards to keep possession... I hope the lad comes good, he was by no means the worst player on the pitch last night for us. I'm not actually sure he has pace. When did he last out sprint someone to the ball in the way that say, Shane Long does? For a long time I have viewed him as a 'pacey' player but it might just be a myth. I recall seeing him in the pre-season friendlies and thinking he looked quick then, but not seen any evidence of it recently. Unfortunately I disagree with your last sentence, he was by far the worst player on the pitch from where I was sitting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR-10 Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Please report to the authorities, absolutely disgusting behaviour and has no place in Football and at Saints. http://www.kickitout.org/get-involved/report-it/ Even better, email the club your seat number or approximate location as close to these people as possible if you don't want to disclose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 He was absolute dire tonight, but to the 'fans' who were against him around me - absolute disgrace, go and find another team to support. Spent the entire match calling for Hapoel players to stamp on him so he's injured, racial gestures and the like. There's no denying he was dross tonight, but our fans take on a whole new level of ****tardness sometimes. Out of interest, what is a racial gesture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 A player who has mostly been associated with relegation during his career. There's probably a good reason for that, and we shouldn't have signed him. Just hope his form with relegation doesn't continue. He's 22. On that subject - would we be more lenient with Redmond if he were an academy product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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