sfc4prem Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 F*ck me we were sloppy today. Fonte's sliced attempt summed up our performance. Oh well, on to the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffnut Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Disgraceful performance, attack and defence. No more excuses from manager and players please, we must buy in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Atrocious performance. Typical Saints, beat Arsenal, lose against the bottom teams. Confidence knocked just ahead of the Europe League match. What great timing. Just what is Redmond for? Also could do with Tadic back as soon as possible, because we lacked guile and somebody to run into the box with the ball at their feet. I thought that Redmond could do that, but he doesn't seem interested in doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 (edited) Yeah fair enough but at the same time, sweeping statements that make you (not directly you, but as in people who make 'Im better than you' type comments) look like an arrogant asshat doesn't really have much content observation or intelligence either. Rising to it is just going to make trolls worse and give them a kick. However when it's clear we have been particularly **** there is naturally going to be some discussion and analysis of it just like when we win and it is a more positive discussion. So condemning everyone for having a negative opinion as being some lesser being is quite frankly just as bad as the regular WUMS. Maybe it is just me but I find you guys just as bad as them. Don't really seem to say much about the game just bash people for their views. I am not going to be too critical here but I think people have a valid reason to be annoyed with that result and recent performances. We have scored only 13 goals this season. West Brom have 20! Bompey have more than us.... There are clearly issues within the team and its right to point the flaws out after terrible performances. If you put your head in the sand and ignore them they get worse. I am glad you are really happy with how our season is going and everything is all rosey even after a loss to a team who were in freefall. But please stop talking like those who don't agree are 'princesses' because they don't share your view. I thought it was only the few that looked at everything all rose tinted win or lose. Clearly I was wrong. I wasn't criticizing anyone with frustrations or even a negative view. My post was aimed at a select few that employ a pre-selected set of responses to however the scoreline is at the time rather than what is actually happening in the game. We all know who they are. For the most part, I feel that I am commenting on the game being played, but naturally, I will be taken off course at times by these WUMS, and that is a part of my frustration. Edited 3 December, 2016 by Ohio Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Atrocious performance. Typical Saints, beat Arsenal, lose against the bottom teams. Confidence knocked just ahead of the Europe League match. What great timing. Just what is Redmond for? Also could do with Tadic back as soon as possible, because we lacked guile and somebody to run into the box with the ball at their feet. I thought that Redmond could do that, but he doesn't seem interested in doing it. We beat the Arsenal C team Les. Yours Shatlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Not ****ing good enough! WTF is Redmond all about? Typical winger I suppose. One great game in five or six. He's certainly not the next Henry. Can't wait for Tadic to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 I said after the Hull fiasco it's the teams below us we should be beating but SFC have a very bad habit of repeating the same mistakes season after season.Today is a classic example of two or three players making faux pas on the same day and we get tonked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 (edited) Not a good performance, but this was our 22nd game of the season, were 11th, on the brink of moving into the Europa round of 32 and League Cup semi finalists, so a little perspective is required. I hope we sign a good striker in January... Edited 3 December, 2016 by Gunnery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 F*ck me we were sloppy today. Fonte's sliced attempt summed up our performance. Oh well, on to the next one. Thankfully he has already agreed to sign for Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 West Brom are 6th on 20pts. If we'd bothered to turn up today that could have been us. But we didn't and it's not. Same old Saints, inconsistent as hell, unable to score and hopeless keeper exposed when defence has an off day. Same team as last week (except Boufal for Sims), rotation is not the issue, 8 of the team playing today have had a week (6 days for the pedants) to get over the last game and are not strangers to each other like they would be if the team was being tinkered with as some seem to think it is. Bad decision to play JWP instead of Davis. Hopefully Puel can get us fired up for Be'er Sheva, if only we had a fit backup keeper to replace Desparate Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Thankfully he has already agreed to sign for Man Utd. If you believe that, I would suggest that you are seriously gullible. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Won at Arse, lost today. I'd have taken that beforehand. I'll swap a mediocre league campaign for a good run in the cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 As Swansea and West Ham are demonstrating, there are worse teams in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 We really need Puel to be allowed to make a couple of purchases in Jan......not Reed!. Puel needs to get in players who suite his style of playing the game rather than Reed hunting for future money makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 I thought Palace were a lot hungrier than us in the first half and that's what won it for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 I thought Palace were a lot hungrier than us in the first half and that's what won it for them. They wanted it more than us thats the worrying thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Peepa Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Thankfully he has already agreed to sign for Man Utd. Sadly for Fonte he peaked too late. He's been a great servant for Saints but at what, 32 (?) he's not going onward and upward. Took him time to adjust to the prem understandably and a team looking to break into Europe's elite again aren't going to go there. Virgil on the other hand... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 I thought Palace were a lot hungrier than us in the first half and that's what won it for them. Pony . Our keeper cost us the game . Simple as that . That first goal changed the whole game .Our players were every bit as committed as theirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 I'm just thankful we have a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 With the sheer number of games we're playing, and the changes to the team match by match, it's hardly surprising we throw in a poor performance every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 We beat the Arsenal C team Les. Yours Shatlock It wasn't our first team either. Did you expect us to win before the match then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 I'm just thankful we have a club Bit dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Forster needs to take the blame for that silly silly mistake he did. The team got hit bad by it and the second goal came right after. I think it would be a different game if he hadn't made that mistake. Meltdown and then move on to beer sheva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 I thought Forster was at fault for the second goal too. It seems from the replays that the players were waiting for him to come get the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 If you believe that, I would suggest that you are seriously gullible. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk I don't but some people genuinely believe Utd have already agreed to sign the 33 year old, 3rd best CB at a mid table club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 With the sheer number of games we're playing, and the changes to the team match by match, it's hardly surprising we throw in a poor performance every now and then. The GK is a regular, and that was our strongest back four today. Generally the rotation provides a reasonably consistent product in my view, reasonable defence (today an exception perhaps) but poor attacking threat. The MF probably sees the most changes in personnel and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Our performance obviously was not that bad ..... The Troll from the Tirol has not been on revelling in a woeful display! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Pony . Our keeper cost us the game . Simple as that . That first goal changed the whole game .Our players were every bit as committed as theirs Not really. Their first goal was an example of their pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Redmond JWP and Hojberg offered nothing going forward today. Puels love for Redmond really needs to stop, when Tadic is back him and Boufal out wide will be so good for Austin Long or Jay Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Not really. Their first goal was an example of their pressing. Come on, not really. Fonte's backpass was completely reasonable and actually, very well weighted. Forster didn't have to take a touch but had time to do so if he really wanted to. He just mucked up massively and there's nothing more to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 It wasn't our first team either. Did you expect us to win before the match then? It was significantly closer to our first XI than theirs -and indeed some of those who featured on Wednesday are more first XI than we have put out recently in other games. Yes when I saw Arsenal's teamsheet, I thought we had a very good chance of beating them and progressing Les. Yours Shatlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 With the sheer number of games we're playing, and the changes to the team match by match, it's hardly surprising we throw in a poor performance every now and then. Which of today's line up have played too much football this year and aren't rested? Possibly Van Dijk? Romeu has played a lot, but was rested midweek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 Come on, not really. Fonte's backpass was completely reasonable and actually, very well weighted. Forster didn't have to take a touch but had time to do so if he really wanted to. He just mucked up massively and there's nothing more to say. Not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 December, 2016 Share Posted 3 December, 2016 (edited) Come on, not really. Fonte's backpass was completely reasonable and actually, very well weighted. Forster didn't have to take a touch but had time to do so if he really wanted to. He just mucked up massively and there's nothing more to say. No. Fonte should have taken responsibility, not gone inside. Fonte was under relatively little pressure (compared to the ball back to Forster) -and Benteke was close enough to Forster to make any backpass dicey. He was poor for the third goal too. Edited 3 December, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 No. Fonte should have taken responsibility, not gone inside. Fonte was under relatively little pressure (compared to the ball back to Forster) -and Benteke was close enough to Forster to make any backpass dicey. He was poor for the third goal too. Fonte passes the ball back quite often, hadn't gone wrong then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Fonte passes the ball back quite often, hadn't gone wrong then. Of course, the goal is largely on Forster. But Benteke was closer to Forster than Fonte when the pass was made. Fonte should have taken responsibility as he was under less pressure -never mind he's an outfield player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Not sure what your point is? Think that's obvious. Although Fonte could have chosen a different option it wasn't a pass that put Foster under real pressure, he just had a brain fart. Frankly if he'd been under _more_ pressure he'd have probably tonked it long without thinking. It's not as if Benteke was showing any real conviction in his closing down, he was just doing a bit of defending from the front to close an avenue off. Once that goal went in I think it ruined any game management we had planned to conserve our energies in view of all the matches we have. Our concentration also went for a bit. I reckon we'd have racked up the intensity later on; as it is we had the possession and the passing stats, but not the shooting on target or goals. No manager can or should plan for such an eror. We could do with another goalscorer but perhaps the fact that JRod still hasn't re-emerged as a solution will encourage action, although I can't see anybody worthwhile being available in January. Anyway that, boys and girls, is why I don't make definite predictions either way, and when I do tend to use the weaker modals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Come on, not really. Fonte's backpass was completely reasonable and actually, very well weighted. Forster didn't have to take a touch but had time to do so if he really wanted to. He just mucked up massively and there's nothing more to say. Foresters positioning when the ball in play near him is nothing shot of dreadful.... Has been for ever and still is! We have to look at the coaching for this hopeless schoolboy play by Forster.... Yes he is poor a a few basic goalkeeping skills, however nothing has been done about it at all..... Drop him now.... As for the rest of his form .... pretty average.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Fonts is not the player he was .... We could easily lose him but let's for Gods sake stop selling CHEAP!!!!! As we always do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 No meltdown here. Poor defensive display after the 1st goal which - and lets face it- sometimes happens. Goals change games and that undoubtedly did. Not the biggest fan of Forster (I don't think he commands his six yard box like a man of his size should) but he's saved us many times before. Likewise the defence for the most part this season have been excellent (Martina excluded). Not blaming Puel on rotation, either. You could argue up to this point its been kinda working. What does worry me is the lack of ruthlessness in front of goal. Austin aside, we're not taking the majority of chances that do come our way. Don't subscribe to the fact we are toothless upfront as we're constantly creating chances but as soon as it went 1-0 today, I worried about our ability to score two goals away from home to win the game (yes, know we did that against Arsenal on Wednesday, but it was the exception rather than the rule). Long needs something to go in off his knee or something. He's getting the chances and not putting them away. Redmond just needs to be more direct. Boufal looks a handful already. Win Thurs and Sun, this result is quickly forgotten. To be honest, I already have, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Couldn't watch the game. Here's the (probably distorted) impression I got from Match of the Day: Really poor defending, not bad going forward but same problem of taking chances/cutting edge, Boufal looking very dangerous, Fonte on a serious off day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 I know it's a fad to moan about Redmond playing 'upfront' but he doesn't, he plays left wing which is even more annoying! Every time he sits on the left he slows the game down, cuts inside, and then doesn't shoot or cross. Once against Everton he popped up on the right and beat 2 players and set us away, yesterday after half time he did exactly the same, why is he obsessed with being on the left it's such a waste!! As for Forster, i don't agree with the excessive criticism of him this season, but at the Emirates on Wednesday I said to my mate 'it always worries me that he doesn't take a touch when he clears it, because if that bobbles then he's swung his whole body into that quick and it'll be too late to recover it then' and then it was like I was in a bad dream at Selhurst yesterday watching that happen right in front of me. p.s. Hojbjerg is ****ing **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Well that was a shocker. Again. Is the first team the new second team? I am starting to lose track, given performances. JWP, Hojberg and Romeu cannot play together. Safety first rubbish all the time. Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 I thought Palace were a lot hungrier than us in the first half and that's what won it for them. Goalkeeper clanger and the shock of it and we were 2 0 down! Though Palace were ****! I thought we played well 2nd half but as usaul scoring goals is our problem and need to buy a striker in january......looks like jay rod is finished and we are looking to sell him for 11million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Bring back Gazzaniga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 They wanted it more than us thats the worrying thing Is it 'worrying' or 'expected'? I didn't see the game so can't comment on the performance, but it's not really a surprise that they were hungrier than us. It was possibly the game to save Pardew's job, and unless the players want him out they were going to bounce back from the farcical 5-4 reverse against Swansea. We, on the other hand, have just beaten Everton and Arsenal, so probably a little complacent against 'struggling' Palace - god knows most on here seemed to think we'd stroll it - plus we also have a crucial Europa game in a few days. It sounds like we were dreadful, and I'm disappointed we didn't make a better fist of it, and in general there are question marks over how good we are, but the one thing that doesn't surprise me from yesterday is that Palace were "up for it" more than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 It was crap, and frustratingly inconsistent. But we have to accept that Europe and the League Cup run are taking their toll. It's not that players can't play 2 or 3 games in a week, but if you have a Saints squad playing twice as many games as a Palace squad (have to check the figures re Palace but you get my point) then it's likely that performance will slip a bit. Even if it's only by a few percent on the stats that coaches look at that's enough to make a difference at elite level. Spurs weren't able to compete in Europe while staying in touch in the League this year... nor were Leicester even though they chose to focus on Europe rather than the league. So we're not alone. It's no surprise that Chelsea in particular are doing so well at the moment. Out of the EFL Cup early and no Europe and with a quality squad. Firm favourites for the title IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Turned off in disgust after the second goal. Can't stand it when we give away the ball too easily and the opposition score from it. Nothing more to say, I'm sure the players will be sorting it out this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 Liverpool lost to bournemouth. I already feel much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 4 December, 2016 Share Posted 4 December, 2016 It does bring us down to 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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