ALWAYS_SFC Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 We can do them too... COYS More team changes to come for Saturday but it works. Fonte and Austin to play for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 They are on the ropes and will have players missing. Tough to predict Claude's line-up as usual. I'm predicting 7 changes. ----------Forster---------- Cedric Fonte Virgil Bertrand ----------Romeu---------- -----Højbjerg---JWP------ Redmond------------Boufal -----------Austin---------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 30 November, 2016 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2016 (edited) They are in the ropes and will have players missing. Tough to predict Claude's line-up as usual. I'm predicting 7 changes. ----------Forster---------- Cedric Fonte Virgil Bertrand ----------Romeu---------- -----Højbjerg---JWP------ Redmond------------Boufal -----------Austin---------- Looks good to me, Perhaps Tadic on bench too ? Edited 30 November, 2016 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 my guess for what Puel will play: Cedric Fonte VVC Mcqueen Romeu PEH JWP Redmond Austin Tadic they are on a bad run of form- trust us to end it for them, and Pardew beats us 1-0... thats the alpine in me! but really on the back of two positive results we should be looking a 2-0 victory, would be very nice, especially as they have no Cabaye too- so, 2-0, Austin and PEH to grab his first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 Looks goof to me, Perhaps Tadic on bench too ? Don't think he's trained yet. Sims on the bench is good for now - aren't we lucky Good to have options. Davo sounded good tonight. He could play Saturday, but I'd have JWP in for set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 30 November, 2016 Author Share Posted 30 November, 2016 Don't think he's trained yet. Sims on the bench is good for now - aren't we lucky Good to have options. Davo sounded good tonight. He could play Saturday, but I'd have JWP in for set pieces. Yes we are blessed with such a strong squad and a management team who know how to get the best out of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 I'd go with... Forster Cedric Fonte Virgil Bertrand Romeu Davis Hojbjerg Sims Redmond Austin Subs: Lewis, Yoshida, McQueen, JWP, Clasie, Long, Boufal Injured/Rested/Dropped: McCarthy, Targett, Martina, Stephens, Reed, Hesketh, Tadic, JRod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Sims on the bench and long starting for me. There's nothing to gain by rushing him into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Same team that started against Everton but maybe Sims on the bench for Boufal purely to not rush the young man. The next two league games are very winnable and can really kick start our league campaign chase for 6th. 3-1 win for me as Palace are looking like relegation fodder currently. Austin, JWP and Redmond with the goals. Benteke for them with a consolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Don't think he's trained yet. Sims on the bench is good for now - aren't we lucky Good to have options. Davo sounded good tonight. He could play Saturday, but I'd have JWP in for set pieces. The pattern is for JWP to play with Hojbjerg. Tadić won't be ready. I'd guess Sims will start with Boufal on the bench, keeping Boufal fresher for Be'er Sheva. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Forster Cedric Fonte VvD Bertrand Rom Hoj JwP Sims Austin Redmond/Boufal Taylor, Yoshida, McQueen, Davis, Clasie, Long Redmond/Boufal reckon this is the game Pardew will get to save his job so expect them to come out all guns blazing 2-4 to saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Sims deserves to start after that performance, both JWP and Bertrand should play because Palace are awful at set pieces. I'd expect Fonte, Cedric and Austin to come back in. Would love to see us score more than 2 goals for once, get some goals for some others besides Austin, like maybe one ofr Redmond and Boufal. I reckon we might concede, but they'll need to win and won't be confident of keeping it tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffaSaint Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 This has to be the game to rest VVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 The way the media is building this up about possibly being Pardew's last game, you can just see them nicking this in a dirty 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 This has to be the game to rest VVD. He has to play and mark Benteke out of the game. We have some easier premier league home games coming up which would be better imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 He has to play and mark Benteke out of the game. We have some easier premier league home games coming up which would be better imo. i'd rest him against HBS myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 i'd rest him against HBS myself Surely that game is too important to **** about with? Game after is boro at home which 'should' be fairly straightforward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Surely that game is too important to **** about with? Game after is boro at home which 'should' be fairly straightforward. i think HBS is an easier game Boro are a decent outfit and as seen, the prem is much harder than the EL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 We are riding high on confidence, this is the game where we really click, Palace 0-4 Saints, Pardew sacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 I'm not too worried about player freshness between Palace & HBS. Saturday to Thursday is enough recovery time. Thursday to Sunday (HBS to Boro) is when you'd have to rotate 7 or 8 players again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 JWP has to play - Palace are shocking at defending set pieces and that's his speciality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 JWP has to play - Palace are shocking at defending set pieces and that's his speciality! Is it correct that, save for Austin's Everton goal, we haven't scored a header, or is it only not scoring a header from a set piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Any pub recommendations near the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Anyone just watch the live stream of Puel's press conference? He got asked about developing young players and selling them, selling VVD in January etc. He brought every single question back round to talking about the next game Sky journo was getting nothing from him and joked is this going to be what Puel says in response to every single question he gets about selling players and after consulting a translator Puel then answered by talking about the next game Think he perfectly understood what was being asked and just instead decided to wind them all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Anyone just watch the live stream of Puel's press conference? He got asked about developing young players and selling them, selling VVD in January etc. He brought every single question back round to talking about the next game Sky journo was getting nothing from him and joked is this going to be what Puel says in response to every single question he gets about selling players and after consulting a translator Puel then answered by talking about the next game Think he perfectly understood what was being asked and just instead decided to wind them all up. I didn't watch it, but this quote is quality: Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC Puel on Dušan Tadić: "We need him to come back on his level, that's important. He will wear a mask, but it's a beautiful mask!" #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMark211 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 i think HBS is an easier game Boro are a decent outfit and as seen, the prem is much harder than the EL Being a Southampton fan living in Middlesbrough, I can tell you now that Boro are not a decent outfit at all!! They play into our hands. 4-5-1. VVD / Fonte would have Negredo in their pocket. Other than that they have Gaston but we all know he was not good enough for us so... I'd be expecting this to be straightforward. I think in a game not too far away we are going to really hit a team for 4,5 or 6. This could be the game for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 i'd rest him against HBS myself We'll be resting Fonte for that one, like we have for every other EL game. For the cynics suggesting its so he isn't cup-tied for Europe, you can actually play in the Group stages for one team and the knockouts for another (though I can't remember if it has to be the other competition or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Is it correct that, save for Austin's Everton goal, we haven't scored a header, or is it only not scoring a header from a set piece? I wouldn't be surprised, given the obvious approach not to cross in the air into the box that we adopted in the opening match - it has to be part of the system somehow. As I was saying at the time, you still need to cross in the air sometimes just to keep the defence thinking they will need to defend it... but we basically have a short team by Prem standards, only Forster and Van Dijk are particularly tall, and unless you've got more than 2 tall outfielders the opposition has always got enough tall defenders to deal with it. Man U murdered us in the air without needing to be decent on the floor, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 We'll be resting Fonte for that one, like we have for every other EL game. For the cynics suggesting its so he isn't cup-tied for Europe, you can actually play in the Group stages for one team and the knockouts for another (though I can't remember if it has to be the other competition or not). I dunno, Van Dijk is usually rested for League Cup games and Fonte plays but he didn't yesterday. Perhaps a Fonte/Yoshida partnership on saturday with our first choice pairing v Beer Sheva? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Don't need to rest VVD, he's a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 We are riding high on confidence, this is the game where we really click, Palace 0-4 Saints, Pardew sacked! Pardew has been sacked after a 4-0 saints away victory once, let's do it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Pardew has been sacked after a 4-0 saints away victory once, let's do it again Very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Reckon it will be:- Forster Cedric - Fonte - VVD - Bertrand Romeu PEH - JWP Redmond - Austin - Boufal Personally would rather give Sims a go in place of Redmond, as I think NR's been pants the last few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Palace are notoriously bad at defending set pieces this season so makes sense for JWP to play and someone like Austin or even VVD to head them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Palace are notoriously bad at defending set pieces this season so makes sense for JWP to play and someone like Austin or even VVD to head them in. About time Fonte scored too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 I'm hoping we will drop Redmond for this. His form and confidence has dropped dramatically and I think he needs to start coming on from the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Tough to predict Claude's line-up as usual. I'm predicting 7 changes. ----------Forster---------- Cedric Fonte Virgil Bertrand ----------Romeu---------- -----Højbjerg---JWP------ Redmond------------Boufal -----------Austin---------- Reckon it will be:- Forster Cedric - Fonte - VVD - Bertrand Romeu PEH - JWP Redmond - Austin - Boufal Decent team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Decent team Great minds and all that SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Palace are notoriously bad at defending set pieces this season so makes sense for JWP to play and someone like Austin or even VVD to head them in. We all know that JWP is supposed to be great at set pieces, yet we never seem to score from them. I have definitely noticed some excellent corners and free kicks from him, but at also some poor ones. So is it that... a) JWP isn't actually that good at them, but he takes so many that a few of them are bound to be decent, just not enough to be a reliable source of goals. b) We don't have good enough players in the air to take advantage. c) Our movement (or general set play tactics) isn't good enough. d) We have been getting chances but players haven't been converting them. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 We all know that JWP is supposed to be great at set pieces, yet we never seem to score from them. WBA @ Home last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 We all know that JWP is supposed to be great at set pieces, yet we never seem to score from them. I have definitely noticed some excellent corners and free kicks from him, but at also some poor ones. So is it that... a) JWP isn't actually that good at them, but he takes so many that a few of them are bound to be decent, just not enough to be a reliable source of goals. b) We don't have good enough players in the air to take advantage. c) Our movement (or general set play tactics) isn't good enough. d) We have been getting chances but players haven't been converting them. ? I think JWP puts a good ball in the majority of the time - I think finishing has let us down. In the Europa league alone I can think of several chances (mainly VVD!) where we've missed free headers / volleys from his set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 I think JWP puts a good ball in the majority of the time - I think finishing has let us down. In the Europa league alone I can think of several chances (mainly VVD!) where we've missed free headers / volleys from his set pieces. This is spot on. Virgil could probably be the top scorer in the Europa if he scored the chances he's had from JWP's delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Last time I did Palace was 2005, that Higginbotham goal! Is the Railway Telegraph still overtaken by Saints fans before the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 This is spot on. Virgil could probably be the top scorer in the Europa if he scored the chances he's had from JWP's delivery. Probably would be 5 points better off as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Don't need to rest VVD, he's a beast. Yes especially if we are selling him to Liverpool in January might as well knacker him out in December......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 We all know that JWP is supposed to be great at set pieces, yet we never seem to score from them. I have definitely noticed some excellent corners and free kicks from him, but at also some poor ones. So is it that... a) JWP isn't actually that good at them, but he takes so many that a few of them are bound to be decent, just not enough to be a reliable source of goals. b) We don't have good enough players in the air to take advantage. c) Our movement (or general set play tactics) isn't good enough. d) We have been getting chances but players haven't been converting them. ? No one is going to be perfect with their deleries, even Beckham fluffed a few. Plus he tries to put them it at pace, this is a more difficult technique, both him and Bertrand whip the ball in, whereas you see a lot of corners kind of floated in much slower and they are easier to deal with. I'd say the problem is probably B and D, most of our midfield and forwards aren't that big so you are really only expecting centre-backs, Austin and maybe Hojberg to be real aerial threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Forster, Cedric, Fonte, Van Dijk, Bertrand, Romeu and Austin all shoe-ins, obviously. Redmond will probably play after being rested so that leaves one space for one of Long, Boufal or Sims. I suspect Boufal might get the nod but you'd be pretty happy with any of those starting. It shows the options we have now that it's one from those three as well as Tadic being unavailable. Personally, I think I'd start Sims instead of Redmond but I expect Puel to show faith in Redmond. So then it's two from Davis, JWP, Hojbjerg and Classie. Very hard to choose. As JWP and Hojbjerg started on the bench I expect it will be those two but, again, what great options to have Davis and Clasie as well. Hopefully Clasie's goal spurs him on. Four clear days before the HBS match so that game shouldn't even be a consideration for Saturday's selection IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedlemur Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 I would consider resting Bertrand for HBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 No one is going to be perfect with their deleries, even Beckham fluffed a few. Plus he tries to put them it at pace, this is a more difficult technique, both him and Bertrand whip the ball in, whereas you see a lot of corners kind of floated in much slower and they are easier to deal with. I'd say the problem is probably B and D, most of our midfield and forwards aren't that big so you are really only expecting centre-backs, Austin and maybe Hojberg to be real aerial threats. I'd tend to agree with that, but obviously A needed to be one of the options! Our attacking threat is pretty limited to consider Hojbjerg to be our fourth best option...! I guess that's the trade off for having players that suit more of a short passing, high energy game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 December, 2016 Share Posted 1 December, 2016 Wonderful news. Lawro thinks we'll lose 2-0 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38159700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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