simo Posted 24 December, 2016 Share Posted 24 December, 2016 Alex Crook is typing away furiously right now. Apparently they're secret santa gifts , which is all fun until you find out it was Jose who got it for him and then posts a pic of it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlySaint Posted 24 December, 2016 Share Posted 24 December, 2016 I'm not questioning him in epl but he does have lapses in concentration which I feel is his only real weakness, as for rest of world you'd arguably say Boating, Pique, Ramos possibly Bonucci are all slightly above hin Boateng is very weak in the air and in general compared to VVD, despite Boateng's size he doesn't make much use of it. He's massively over-rated. Ramos is comparable, but he's a different type of CB. I put VVD above him because of his strength and aerial ability. I should be noted though that Ramos has more strength and aerial presence than Boateng. Ramos is better than Boateng, cannot believe Boateng is being held in the same regard as Ramos.. But he seems to be. Pique is very good, but lacks pace and physicality compared to VVD for me. Bonucci is the best CB is the world for me in a back three, but VVD for me in a back four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlySaint Posted 24 December, 2016 Share Posted 24 December, 2016 Talk about red & white glasses. There's not much between them , but Toby receives rave reviews from neutrals. He's been injured this season that's the only reason he's not getting much publicity lately, nothing to do with VvD making him making him "not look close to as good as he once did ". Toby can play in midfield & full back & doesn't switch off like VvD does occasionally . I reckon if you took 100 neutrals 50 would pick Toby & 50 VvD ( I would choose Toby btw) , certainly nothing as overwhelming as your post suggest.Hes certainly not considered the best centre half in the league by everyone . Alderweireld is no where near as good. Most ****ing neutrals don't watch anyone but their own team. They form their opinion on the press and the media only. Van Dijk will rocket in popularity of neutrals after carragher and Neville put them in their team of the season so far. The exact same thing happened with Alderweireld... And Fonte... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 He's been the best CB in the league this season and most people have picked up on it. I predicted this would happen last season and a lot of people laughed. I think he will stay until the end of the season. If he goes to anyone, it makes most sense for Man City to sign him. it's a position they've really struggled to sort. Plua they might actually shell out some serious cash to get him. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 Alderweireld is no where near as good. Don't talk rubbish man. There's hardly anything between them ,to say he's nowhere near as good is just showing your bias. You say carraghar picked him in his team of the season so far, well last April he called Toby the best defender in the league ( a title he's given to a Chelsea player this season not VvD). Had Toby been fit all season,maybe he'd have made the team . Both are extremely good players, to say one is nowhere near as good as the other is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 Alderweireld is no where near as good. Most ****ing neutrals don't watch anyone but their own team. They form their opinion on the press and the media only. Van Dijk will rocket in popularity of neutrals after carragher and Neville put them in their team of the season so far. The exact same thing happened with Alderweireld... And Fonte... How can a "neutral" (whether he is ****ing or otherwise) have their own team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 isn't this more a Balotelli impersonation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 VVD top of Koeman's Jan wish list apparently... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2474369/everton-transfer-news-ronald-koeman-puts-southampton-ace-virgil-van-dijk-top-of-his-five-strong-january-wish-list/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 VVD top of Koeman's Jan wish list apparently... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2474369/everton-transfer-news-ronald-koeman-puts-southampton-ace-virgil-van-dijk-top-of-his-five-strong-january-wish-list/ Beyonce's top of my January wish list, probably about the same chance of happening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-hoping-special-relationship-9513578 These comments won't go down well. But he did similar with us when talking about players like Vilhena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 I wonder, this Moshi chap who promised £100m, hasn't he already given £80m in interest free loans? That doesn't leave a lot to play with, and given the state of their finances....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 25 December, 2016 Share Posted 25 December, 2016 I wonder, this Moshi chap who promised £100m, hasn't he already given £80m in interest free loans? That doesn't leave a lot to play with, and given the state of their finances....... I believe he has paid off their debts and they are likely to announce plans for a new stadium shortly. Obviously has had little impact so far (aside from fronting up the dough to poach Koeman from us) but seems from most reports like they are going to start investing in a pretty big way, will be interesting to see if they can get anywhere near top 4 over the next 5 seasons or so because its so difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-hoping-special-relationship-9513578 These comments won't go down well. But he did similar with us when talking about players like Vilhena. Knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Makes me spew when these tabloid rags say things like "Koeman signed VvD when he was at Saints" erm, no he didn't, he was on the radar before that and it's not even how we operate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Pep says he has no interest in VVD In his latest press conference. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/national/article/Pep-Guardiola-rules-out-move-for-Southamptons-Virgil-van-Dijk-259fb55e-64d6-4935-b104-46668840f07a-ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 (edited) Makes me spew when these tabloid rags say things like "Koeman signed VvD when he was at Saints" erm, no he didn't, he was on the radar before that and it's not even how we operate... Also says Koeman developed him in his 2 years working with him ? Edited 26 December, 2016 by simo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-hoping-special-relationship-9513578 These comments won't go down well. But he did similar with us when talking about players like Vilhena. I'm dubious that Everton can afford VVD or that VVD was thinking of Everton when he said he wants to play at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Pep says he has no interest in VVD In his latest press conference. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/national/article/Pep-Guardiola-rules-out-move-for-Southamptons-Virgil-van-Dijk-259fb55e-64d6-4935-b104-46668840f07a-ds "We don't want him now" pretty much means they will in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-hoping-special-relationship-9513578 These comments won't go down well. But he did similar with us when talking about players like Vilhena. He's blathering. Only bit of that rings true "If I compare, I like to do more business now in January than we did last year in Southampton." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 "We don't want him now" pretty much means they will in the summer. Also means we've made it clear he's not going in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-hoping-special-relationship-9513578 These comments won't go down well. But he did similar with us when talking about players like Vilhena. Everton are paying Lukaku £200,000 a week?! Crikey. That answers the question someone posed on here the other day about whether they could outspend us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Everton are paying Lukaku £200,000 a week?! Crikey. That answers the question someone posed on here the other day about whether they could outspend us. It also said Koeman managed VVD for two years, so I'd halve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 QED https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/21/romelu-lukaku-new-everton-contract-leave-agent-mino-raiola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 VVD top of Koeman's Jan wish list apparently... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2474369/everton-transfer-news-ronald-koeman-puts-southampton-ace-virgil-van-dijk-top-of-his-five-strong-january-wish-list/ Bless, he probably sent it to Santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Everton are paying Lukaku £200,000 a week?! Crikey. That answers the question someone posed on here the other day about whether they could outspend us. Just shows what rubbish some of these papers write. Lukaku's pay varies in reports massively depending on what day of the week or how sensational they want to make it seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Bless, he probably sent it to Santa. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Everton are similar size to us financially so will be interesting to watch them over the next 4-5 years Will they be the new Pompey or will fortune favour the brave? My money is on the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 26 December, 2016 Share Posted 26 December, 2016 Everton are similar size to us financially so will be interesting to watch them over the next 4-5 years Will they be the new Pompey or will fortune favour the brave? My money is on the latter 4-5 years you say? Everton to be top 10 ........ tick Saints to be top 10 ..... why not? Heisenberg to be banned ..... unlikely .... why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSeb Posted 27 December, 2016 Share Posted 27 December, 2016 Everton are similar size to us financially so will be interesting to watch them over the next 4-5 years Will they be the new Pompey or will fortune favour the brave? My money is on the latter Are they? I'd hazard a guess that they're at least a little bit more well off given their consistent top flight status and new sugar daddy owner. That, combined with their higher sponsorship and ticket revenue for many years as well as a lower debt figure means that I'd actually say my guess isn't actually that hazardous. Interesting also that you would consider spending greater sums of money as the 'brave' option. You've changed your tune from before where you've seemed to suggest that you would consider spending a lot more cash the safer 'open goal' option? I mean, it will obviously guarantee that step to the next level which clubs such as QPR, Newcastle, Palace and Stoke have clearly made? Anyway, if you get a moment to spare from sifting through those swathes of PMs then maybe you'd like to clarify your opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 December, 2016 Share Posted 27 December, 2016 Everton are paying Lukaku £200,000 a week?! Crikey. That answers the question someone posed on here the other day about whether they could outspend us. I very much doubt they are paying Lukaku 200K before his new contract he was Everton's top earner on 80K a week I doubt under FFP (bearing in mind they earn less from sponsorship than we do) they can afford to pay Lukaku another 120K a week, plus another 200K a week on VVD plus Morgan on an alleged 120K week. All this talk of investment in the press seems to ignore the fact FFP is designed to stop owners just throwing money at the playing squad (though not managers IIRC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 27 December, 2016 Share Posted 27 December, 2016 Sports reporter on radio four just suggested that the £60m burning a hole in Chelsea's pocket will go on a centre back - guess who. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 Driving in listening to Scousers on talksport, they seem to think Liverpool can waltz in and sign him. Milk Quim said interest from LFC had cooled poss as VVD might have said no to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 Driving in listening to Scousers on talksport, they seem to think Liverpool can waltz in and sign him. Milk Quim said interest from LFC had cooled poss as VVD might have said no to them. Liverpool likely don't have the ££'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 Driving in listening to Scousers on talksport, they seem to think Liverpool can waltz in and sign him. Milk Quim said interest from LFC had cooled poss as VVD might have said no to them. On the evidence do you blame them? I bet they think we have a special relationship and who knows, we might do. The board seem willing enough to do business with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 Driving in listening to Scousers on talksport, they seem to think Liverpool can waltz in and sign him. Milk Quim said interest from LFC had cooled poss as VVD might have said no to them. do you blame them for thinking that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 According to some Everton fan on twitter, he reckons: Shez Online Investor @ShezOneCoin Dec 28 We are going in hard for Van Dijk. Southampton not willing to sell us after we took Koeman off them. Player wants the move. #EFC Surprised if VVD wants the move....claims he knew about Koeman back in May though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 I bet they think we have a special relationship and who knows, we might do. The board seem willing enough to do business with them. As long as we keep screwing them on price, it supports what some on here term our 'business model'. What if they open the bidding at £40million ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 I couldn't give a **** if we sell him for £200million in January, I don't see any of the money. It would be madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 According to some Everton fan on twitter, he reckons: Shez Online Investor @ShezOneCoin Dec 28 We are going in hard for Van Dijk. Southampton not willing to sell us after we took Koeman off them. Player wants the move. #EFC Surprised if VVD wants the move....claims he knew about Koeman back in May though. You seriously don't believe that do you? He has the choice of City and Chelsea and he wants to go to Everton? Never, ever going to happen and Saints will not sell to Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 You seriously don't believe that do you? He has the choice of City and Chelsea and he wants to go to Everton? Never, ever going to happen and Saints will not sell to Everton. Never thought Ronald would go there so everything is a possibility! Pretty sure he won't go in January though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 As long as we keep screwing them on price, it supports what some on here term our 'business model'. What if they open the bidding at £40million ? how have we screwed them on any price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR-10 Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 I wonder, this Moshi chap who promised £100m, hasn't he already given £80m in interest free loans? That doesn't leave a lot to play with, and given the state of their finances....... Apparently it isn't exactly rosy up there. Erwins had a right falling out up there I think and Koeman has apparently said if he doesn't get who he wants THIS window he's off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 30 December, 2016 Share Posted 30 December, 2016 Apparently it isn't exactly rosy up there. Erwins had a right falling out up there I think and Koeman has apparently said if he doesn't get who he wants THIS window he's off. May as well hand in his resignation now then, cos they will not be getting VVD. In January anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 Apparently it isn't exactly rosy up there. Erwins had a right falling out up there I think and Koeman has apparently said if he doesn't get who he wants THIS window he's off. Pony Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 Apparently it isn't exactly rosy up there. Erwins had a right falling out up there I think and Koeman has apparently said if he doesn't get who he wants THIS window he's off. Give me your tips for the races so I know who to rule out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR-10 Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 May as well hand in his resignation now then, cos they will not be getting VVD. In January anyway.... They have no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 Apparently it isn't exactly rosy up there. Erwins had a right falling out up there I think and Koeman has apparently said if he doesn't get who he wants THIS window he's off.RK knows his reputation has already been tarnished going there and will look for an excuse to bail out IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 2 January, 2017 Share Posted 2 January, 2017 The Daily Express write that Chelsea are to bid £60 Million for Virgil to ward off Man City interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 January, 2017 Share Posted 2 January, 2017 Les will be praying for a clean sheet today so he can justify taking Chelsea's cash. Not very likely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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