Dusic Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Good to see us standing up for ourselves on this one. Long time overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Liverpool row with Southampton over Virgil van Dijk proves selling clubs will no longer be bullied It was a measure of the seriousness with which Liverpool principal owner John W Henry took Southampton’s allegations against his club of an illegal approach to Virgil van Dijk – and the potential consequences – that it was the American billionaire who oversaw Wednesday’s remarkable climbdown. The final wording of the apology statement released on Liverpool’s website was agreed between the two leadership groups at the clubs, which at Anfield meant Henry and Mike Gordon, another key member of Fenway Sports Group. They dealt directly with Saints chairman Ralph Krueger, and his key aides including Les Reed, the executive director. It was an unprecedented response by Liverpool to an unprecedented problem. Southampton were well aware that their player was being tapped up, but when multiple stories emerged this week that he had decided to join Liverpool, the view at St Mary’s was that enough was enough. Their evidence was so compelling that Liverpool had no option but to back down. At stake was a Premier League investigation, and the initial complaint sent to the League by Southampton still stands, however if both clubs decide that Liverpool’s statement is an end to the matter, then there will be no further action. The saga could yet have consequences for key figures at Liverpool with technical director Michael Edwards to be asked how the club got it so wrong. The stance by Southampton shows that traditional selling clubs are prepared to be pushed only so far. The view from owner Katharina Liebherr and Krueger until now has been that Saints are not willing to sell Van Dijk. A world-record offer could possibly make them reconsider, but this summer the mood is very different to previous years. One thing is certain: any club who want Van Dijk will have to be much more discreet in the process than Liverpool. It will not change the fact that just about every transfer involves clandestine talks with the player first, the key difference being that the buying club do not celebrate a transfer coup before they have ensured that the seller is onside. Van Dijk himself is one week from returning to full fitness, and he will be reminded by his club that he is only one year into a six-year contract. Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/07/liverpool-row-southampton-overvirgil-van-dijk-proves-selling/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 just read VVD has removed all links to Saints from his Twitter feed.....is he going on strike? hope not, would be a shame to see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Maybe Saints are so reluctant to sell VVD right now is because a sensational manager is in line for Puel's job Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 just read VVD has removed all links to Saints from his Twitter feed.....is he going on strike? hope not, would be a shame to see... Fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Really hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 I think it's blatantly obvious that Lallana,Clyne and Lovren were tapped up by Liverpool. Adam and Nathaniel were originally tapped up on England duty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Fair play to Saints for standing up to the basstards. Think I hate those f*ckrs more than I do Pompey, there I've said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Probably small time but anyone else ****ing buzzing that this has happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 yeah i thinks its quality!! hoping it means we have found a backbone! but also thinking maybe its because a deal as beenmade elsewhere..........hope not...but this is a saints summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Yeah i'm not convinced he's going to stay at all. But I feel like i'll be slightly less gutted if he goes, after today, because we look to have ****ed over those horrible bastards in the process. If they get a year's transfer ban i'll be absolutely over the moon, but I think given the Premier League's love of Liverpool, it probably wouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA SaintsFan Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 The bin dipper meltdown on social media has been ****ing hilarious to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggytrousers Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Martin Semmens take a bow son The board decision was made by Ralph Krueger, Les Reed and Martin Semmens as a team so let me take the opportunity to extend your admiration to all three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Well we hear enough about respect , about time clubs respected that other clubs have contracts in place and that its only respectful to follow the right channels . Not just LFC in this case but the agent , and if SFC wanted I'm sure they could refuse to meet with VVD agent as he's shown no respect to SFC position LFC next season will represent the Prem League in Europe , yet half the team may well have been assembled by cheating and disrespectful behavior, time for the rule makers to grow some balls, they take action against players for betting effectively banning them , but seem slow to act against the clubs and agents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 There is no way VvD is going to Liverpool now even if he wanted to. People on this forum saying 'we'll see' or some derivative just hate being proved wrong. He might still go to Chelsea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 I hate it when Saints behave this way... I just got used to losing VvD, and now they give me hope he might stay...IT'S THE HOPE THAT KILLS YA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 "here here" it's also what keeps me going too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 http://www.espnfc.us/video/espn-fc-tv/86/video/3140198/hislop-befuddled-by-liverpool-over-van-dijk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Anything that comes out of Craig Burleys mouth can be considered Junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 If I was a betting man, I would say that VVD will be off this window to a club who we will do a swap with. Liverpool seemed to be offering Sahko as a make weight (at all of £30m and £100k p/w) which presumably we didn't want. [Maybe they should keep him now that they have given up with VVD]. I think Liverpool's tapping up buggered up our plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Guardian article on Liverpool's climbdown: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/07/liverpool-virgil-van-dijk-southampton-drop-interest According to the writer, Saints confident VVD will remain at club next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 7 June, 2017 Share Posted 7 June, 2017 Reading their forum is nauseating and their suggestions that they should give us Sakho to keep us happy is hurting my eyes. They think their unwanted centre half who has severed ties beyond repair and who recently did his knee ligaments (presumably out for the best part of 8 months?) is worth £30 MILLION!!!! Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans gruber Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 that is the funniest thing I will see all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 (edited) IMHO Virgil will put in a transfer request and will kick up a fuss until we allow him to leave for Liverpool. Once that happens we will have to sort out a price with them. Just can't see him being able to carry on with Saints after the fuss him and his agent has caused us. Edited 8 June, 2017 by Pilchards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Disappointed with Virgil for his part in this. We made him club captain, he signed a long contract last year and took the increased wages that it bought happily enough, that also made him our highest paid player ever. Stood by him when injured. We deserve more from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Where were all these clubs when WE took a chance and bought him to the Premier League?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 just read VVD has removed all links to Saints from his Twitter feed.....is he going on strike? hope not, would be a shame to see... Why don't you actually check before putting out such bs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Now RAWK is in full 'he is not worth the money anyway' mode... They will struggle for top 4 next season, they had a free run at the league this season with no Europe and just scraped in. Anyway none of my concern. Look forward to taking more points of them again next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 There is no way VvD is going to Liverpool now even if he wanted to. People on this forum saying 'we'll see' or some derivative just hate being proved wrong. He might still go to Chelsea though. I think we got that one covered didn't Micky Quinn say on live radio VVD had meet both Klopp and Conte.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Disappointed with Virgil for his part in this. We made him club captain, he signed a long contract last year and took the increased wages that it bought happily enough, that also made him our highest paid player ever. Stood by him when injured. We deserve more from him. We don't know for sure if VVD had anything to do with this story. It could have been someone about to get the boot who may have fed his wish to go to Liverpool. Doubt if PUEL would stoop so low but maybe Black, or their agents or a Sammy Lee who has always been close to Liverpool and retains close friends at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Why don't you actually check before putting out such bs? It is a fact that he removed SFC from his social media sites when the news broke, several of my fellow @dubaisaints saw it for themselves. Presumably after a few minutes when the Red Mist had died down, or more likely a phone call from his PR/Agent or even SFC, it was back in place. Not the actions I'd expect from The Team Captain, and we can only hope he sees the errors of his ways and puts in a decent shift if he is forced to stay with us for another season. It's the least he can do, after all the club have invested a fair bit in him with pay rise and time and money invested in his recuperation over the last 5 months. Hopefully (IF he has been meeting with the gurning piece of turd Klopp) he too can apologise to the club and fans for an error in judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 We don't know for sure if VVD had anything to do with this story. It could have been someone about to get the boot who may have fed his wish to go to Liverpool. Doubt if PUEL would stoop so low but maybe Black, or their agents or a Sammy Lee who has always been close to Liverpool and retains close friends at Saints. Imagine one of those supertanker container ships that turn up at the docks every day. Imagine every square inch of it is filled with hundreds of thousands of frogs. Then double it. That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Imagine one of those supertanker container ships that turn up at the docks every day. Imagine every square inch of it is filled with hundreds of thousands of frogs. Then double it. That. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Aaah, the good old days are back. Verbal is making election predictions, and CB Fry is conflating ART with boxed frogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Imagine one of those supertanker container ships that turn up at the docks every day. Imagine every square inch of it is filled with hundreds of thousands of frogs. Then double it. That. This is when you're at your best. Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 I'm enjoying reading all the anti saints comments by Liverpool fans on social media stories this morning, it's really wound them up. Long may that continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Had to tune in to talksport to listen to Quinn et al. So it seems LFC have done nothing that everyone else does. Abd we are a selling club anyway, and while LFC have treated us with contempt, it is our business model to sell our best players. This is all about us trying to up the price. Matt Le Tissier on shortly which might have a different slant!!!! I guess that when you get a reputation for selling anyone and everyone, it is hard to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 What will today bring..... All seems extremely chaotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Are we letting Vvd off without any blame in this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Id be hypercritical if i criticised Puel for snaking around and speaking to St.E then give VVD a pass for doing similar.... So i wont! His time here is almost up, just very very glad hes not going to Liverpool. Man C or Chelsea for 60m+ Are we letting Vvd off without any blame in this ? No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Are we letting Vvd off without any blame in this ? Yes.......show me a direct link, where he has asked to leave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Yes.......show me a direct link, where he has asked to leave! Getting cosy with Klippity Klopp in Blackpool without informing the club would be pretty damning IF proven to be true. Would be interesting to hear VVD's side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Yes.......show me a direct link, where he has asked to leave! It's not about wanting to leave it's about sneaking about behind the club's back meeting managers on the Sly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 What will today bring..... All seems extremely chaotic "CLUB NEVER STANDS UP, WE ARE A SELLING CLUB" *club stands up "all extremely chaotic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADutchSaint Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Are we letting Vvd off without any blame in this ? Letting him off what? The possibility that he wants to earn even more money, play for a bigger club and play CL next season? Yes, shame on him. Grab the pitch forks! I really wonder what some people expect from players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Glad to see we are standing up for once, clearly careful planning with the contracts has allowed us to be in a position where we won't be bullied. I do hope the club pursue with the complaint, I'm 100% sure Liverpool used the same tactics with Clyne, Lallana and Lovren but our hands were tied because of the contract situation. With their previous misdemeanors Liverpool should be due a harsh penalty, like a two year transfer ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 It's not about wanting to leave it's about sneaking about behind the club's back meeting managers on the Sly ! How do you think we signed him from Celtic? of course we met him, don't delude yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 How do you think we signed him from Celtic? of course we met him, don't delude yourself.we would have met him after gaining permission for Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 June, 2017 Share Posted 8 June, 2017 Letting him off what? The possibility that he wants to earn even more money, play for a bigger club and play CL next season? Yes, shame on him. Grab the pitch forks! I really wonder what some people expect from players. He should have asked permission, Im sure the club would have allowed him after thy had been in talks with Liverpool. The clubs need to agree a price before the player can go forward for talks. I theory him compromising our position has cost us £10m as now Liverpool have told the world they will not be bidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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